[FIXED] ICLS indication bars too small

[JOJOZ]

Hello,

 

The ICLS indication bars are too small

 

 

DCS :

 

 

Reality :

 

Edited August 14, 2018 by JOJOZ

[mwd2]

If you would zoom in, in DCS World, on the same level, like the other picture - it would be the same size.

[Nealius]

If you would zoom in, in DCS World, on the same level, like the other picture - it would be the same size.

 

They don't. In the IRL picture you can clearly see the glideslope bar extends beyond the AoA bracket. In DCS it does not, and zooming in is not going to elongate the bar.

[JOJOZ]

They don't. In the IRL picture you can clearly see the glideslope bar extends beyond the AoA bracket. In DCS it does not, and zooming in is not going to elongate the bar.

 

 

Exactly :thumbup:

[norbot]

The question is, what if the picture is not from the same F/A-18 version as the one modelled in DCS? :smartass:

[drPhibes]

If the NATOPS manual illustrations are to scale, the ICLS steering bars should be 1.25x the width of the velocity vector and 0,66x the width of the pitch ladder:

 

 

[SCU]

The question is, what if the picture is not from the same F/A-18 version as the one modelled in DCS? :smartass:

 

There are numerous HUD tapes available from many versions of the Hornet, as well as the Super Hornet too. Old & new Hornets alike, as well as Super Hornets, show the ICLS to be exactly the same size as one another, just like almost every other HUD element, bar only a few minor specific differences that are mostly weapons related. Plus I think I read a while ago that ED have acknowledged this and will at some update tweak the needles to match the real ones.

[drPhibes]

Fixed internally (as the thread topic says), but it is easily fixable right now for impatient people who don't mind messing around with the HUD lua files (needless to say, this is not compatible with the integrity check, so save a backup of your file):

 

In \DCS World\Mods\aircraft\FA-18C\Cockpit\Scripts\Multipurpose_Display_Group\HUD_AVQ32\indicator\Pages\HUD_common.lua scroll down to line 384-387 to find the horizontal and vertical bar info. addPlaceholder("ILS_Vert_Root" and (...)"ILS_Hor_Root" define the starting coordinate of the lines ("51"), and addStrokeLine("ILS_Vert" and (...)("ILS_Hor" etc define the length of the lines (102). Multiplying all instances of 51 and 102 with 2 gives lines twice as long, in the correct position.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 14, 2018 by drPhibes

[JOJOZ]

Hey nice! thank you drPhibes!! :thumbup:

[bigalsunit]

Fixed internally (as the thread topic says), but it is easily fixable right now for impatient people who don't mind messing around with the HUD lua files (needless to say, this is not compatible with the integrity check, so save a backup of your file):

 

In \DCS World\Mods\aircraft\FA-18C\Cockpit\Scripts\Multipurpose_Display_Group\HUD_AVQ32\indicator\Pages\HUD_common.lua scroll down to line 384-387 to find the horizontal and vertical bar info. addPlaceholder("ILS_Vert_Root" and (...)"ILS_Hor_Root" define the starting coordinate of the lines ("51"), and addStrokeLine("ILS_Vert" and (...)("ILS_Hor" etc define the length of the lines (102). Multiplying all instances of 51 and 102 with 2 gives lines twice as long, in the correct position.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for the tip drPhibes. By the way, it would appear as if you're shooting an ILS to an airfield. I didn't know the DCS Hornet had the ability to do that yet. Can you let us in that little secret?:shifty:

Edited August 15, 2018 by bigalsunit

[Spathiphyllum]

Thanks for the tip drPhibes. By the way, it would appear as if you're shooting an ILS to an airfield. I didn't know the DCS Hornet had the ability to do that yet. Can you let us in that little secret?:shifty:

 

Not only YET, it won't EVER get a land ILS. Unfortunately.

 

At least that's what Wags replied in a FB post - Navy Hornets don't have ILS therefore the DCS Hornet will not have one either.

 

What we can hope for is a field carrier landing system kind of implementation at some point in the - most probably very distant - future.

Edited August 16, 2018 by Spathiphyllum

[Revelation]

Thanks for the tip drPhibes. By the way, it would appear as if you're shooting an ILS to an airfield. I didn't know the DCS Hornet had the ability to do that yet. Can you let us in that little secret?:shifty:

 

You have to mod the airfield .lua file to add the ICLS function in game. There is another thread that covers this very thing in detail.

[CHSStarKiller]

Maybe I'm just tired and not comprehending what I'm supposed to change! I found the lines, can you copy and paste it in here so I can make sure I did this correctly?? Please.

[JOJOZ]

I was tired or the ICLS are now correct?? (without the HUD_common.lua modify)

I have a new line on the file : local ILSLineLen = 202

 

 

I have restored my original HUD_common.lua file but the ICLS stay with the good size... WTF :lol:

[drPhibes]

The fix was included in yesterday's update, so my mod described earlier is no longer necessary.

 

 

Thanks for the tip drPhibes. By the way, it would appear as if you're shooting an ILS to an airfield. I didn't know the DCS Hornet had the ability to do that yet. Can you let us in that little secret?:shifty:

 

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=217594

[CHSStarKiller]

The fix was included in yesterday's update, so my mod described earlier is no longer necessary.

 

 

 

 

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=217594

 

Yeah I don't have it yet, I'm running stable version, not the Beta, so it will be another 2 weeks of getting my marks messed up on approach. Same size as VV so sometimes on wrong mark, grrrr

[JOJOZ]

The fix was included in yesterday's update, so my mod described earlier is no longer necessary.

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=217594

That's what I thought :thumbup:

[CHSStarKiller]

Any chance of a copy/paste still? Tried changing the values as I though you described but I lose the entire HUD except for the lower bank angels it seems. LOST :(

[JOJOZ]

Any chance of a copy/paste still? Tried changing the values as I though you described but I lose the entire HUD except for the lower bank angels it seems. LOST :(

 

 

You have changed "51" value by "102" for the two lines? nothing else?

[CHSStarKiller]

Since I cant tell which to change, (Feeling totally stupid here) Here is the 4 lines, change what has to please so I can see and compare. It's a rough night here :(

 

 

addPlaceholder("ILS_Vert_Root", {0, 0}, VelVec_origin.name,{{"Common_IndicatorLandingSystem", 0, 51}})

 

addStrokeLine("ILS_Vert", 102, {0, 51}, 180, "ILS_Vert_Root")

 

addPlaceholder("ILS_Hor_Root", {0, 0}, VelVec_origin.name, {{"Common_IndicatorLandingSystem", 1, 51}})

 

addStrokeLine("ILS_Hor", 102, {-51, 0}, -90, "ILS_Hor_Root")

[JOJOZ]

I'm at work, so i can't check my file.

 

 

I answer you as soon as I can

Edited August 16, 2018 by JOJOZ

[CHSStarKiller]

Thanks, will be greatly appreciated