AIM Vape trail

[Shack]

Anyone else think the AIM Rail vape trail a bit overly done? I like the concept, but hopefully some thought is used as to when a Contrail actually forms on the missile rail. Maybe I've just had a bit too much espresso this morning :smilewink:

[RaisedByWolves]

Not as over done as the fuel dump.

[Shack]

Not as over done as the fuel dump.

 

Agree. If atmosphere is simulated, devs please consider programming accurate atmospheric conditions that would warrant when contrails would form.

 

“Contrails usually form at high altitudes; usually above 8,000 m (26,000 ft), where the air temperature is below −36.5 °C (−34 °F). They can also form closer to the ground when the air is cold and moist”

Edited August 24, 2018 by Shack

[FZG_Immel]

Anyone else think the AIM Rail vape trail a bit overly done? I like the concept, but hopefully some thought is used as to when a Contrail actually forms on the missile rail. Maybe I've just had a bit too much espresso this morning :smilewink:

 

I don't think its too overdone.. but clearly, on hornets, the presence of an aim9P or aim9x (in my experience in the swiss air force) would drastically reduce the phenomenum. Sometimes at landing you would only see it from the empty rail.

[Doum76]

Agree.

 

“Contrails usually form at high altitudes; usually above 8,000 m (26,000 ft), where the air temperature is below −36.5 °C (−34 °F). They can also form closer to the ground when the air is cold and moist”

 

 

 

 

i'm no real pilot experienced, but simply using my eyes from thousands of videos online on youtube, and it seems pretty much close to it, though it seems a bit too long in DCS, from videos the trail seems a bit shorter and main difference is, in real life, water particules reflects the light, shich doesn<t look always as white from the many angles you look it from from where the sunlight comes from, but since it is not modeled in DCS and always looks white, well it always seems intence, but again i ratehr a bit intence trail than none :)

 

 

 

As for if aim9p or aim9x would make a difference, i cannot say as i am not a pshycisian, but since lots of Aerobatics or demo Hornets without any weapons on the rail and still produce the trail i presume it's part of the deal.

 

 

 

They are not contrails but wingtip vortices, contrails are produces at high altitude indeed, but from engines, wingtip vortices which what he spokes off can be produced at very low altitude, what produce them is changes in temperature and air pressure changes which can be created by high g's maneuver or sorta, from what i do remember reading back then, just Youtube some F/A-18 demo videos and you'll see, most of them below thousand of feet or even on take off when they rotate.

[FZG_Immel]

Here is an old video I took when I was in the Swiss af.

 

Look at how the wingtip vortex are only coming out of one wing

 

http://s1207.photobucket.com/user/Shungito/media/5ABA1862-B775-479E-85BA-FA0E9DE90EE7-166-0000000BA093D96F_zps42e757a6.mp4