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I will say that we will get 100/130 fuel.

My guess as well.

 

As long as ED models it with the Merlin25 engine, does NOT model it with the saxophone exhausts (only the early couple hundreds or so out of almost 2300 had these), and does NOT include the flame dumpers (not normally used in day operations), we will be fine. That was by far the most common FB.VI configuration for day operations.

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I guess it depends on what time period they wish to do, it seems to be a similar use case to the mustang where in the UK earlier in the war it wasnt used but later on in the war in certain places it was used. There is reference to fb vi using it in Norway I think (will link later on) however given the fact that ed has done mk ix spitfire and the Britain map is being worked on leads me to think it's based around 1942 some time and hence 100/130.

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The FB VI wasn't even in service until 1943, so that's out. I suspect we're getting whatever they went & clambered over to take pictures of ( and got flight data for ). There's one in the DeHavilland museum, a flyable one in NZ - given the PZ serial on a screenshot I am thinking that one had some input - and a couple more in pieces, so we might have an idea of what it looks like ( also we have some screenshots so we can see the exhausts, at least ).

 

I can't help but think how interesting a NF version would be, if we only had a use for one...

 

The Mustang was designed for the RAF after the war started - the early ones which arrived in 1942 were a bit bad & were really only used for Recce / CAS, wan't until late 1943 the Merlin engined ones became available.


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The FB VI wasn't even in service until 1943, so that's out. I suspect we're getting whatever they went & clambered over to take pictures of ( and got flight data for ). There's one in the DeHavilland museum, a flyable one in NZ - given the PZ serial on a screenshot I am thinking that one had some input - and a couple more in pieces, so we might have an idea of what it looks like ( also we have some screenshots so we can see the exhausts, at least ).

 

I can't help but think how interesting a NF version would be, if we only had a use for one...

 

The Mustang was designed for the RAF after the war started - the early ones which arrived in 1942 were a bit bad & were really only used for Recce / CAS, wan't until late 1943 the Merlin engined ones became available.

 

Interesting you should note the one at the de havilland museum, is that by chance the same museum that resides in the buildings that they developed it in secret?, if so there was also a mosquito with the mollins 57mm cannon there, would be sweet to see it in the sim for u boat hunts hehehe, think there was also a cookie bomb there too.

 

Night fighter would be nice but theres nothing to face in it at night currently, maybe if we got German AI bombers?

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I can't help but think how interesting a NF version would be, if we only had a use for one...

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Some NF.XXX flew day operations towards the end of the war, even as bomber escorts. Performance wise it was superior to the FB.VI above 5 or 7K alt and significantly so above 15k (where FB.VI hardly ever reached), while FB.VI was faster on the deck thanks to the low-alt optimized Merlin 25 engines. NF.XXX could not carry bombs and did not have the 303 mgs.

 

NF’s radars will be useless in the game during day time, and night flying will not be fun at all. The other interesting Mossie variant to have is FB.XVIII “tse-tse” with the 57mm (“6 pounder”) Mollins BFG. It won’t be much of a dogfighter carrying that beast plus a ton of extra armor - but damn, blasting away with that thing must be fun!

“Mosquitoes fly, but flies don’t Mosquito” :pilotfly:

- Geoffrey de Havilland.

 

... well, he could have said it!

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Some NF.XXX flew day operations towards the end of the war, even as bomber escorts. Performance wise it was superior to the FB.VI above 5 or 7K alt and significantly so above 15k (where FB.VI hardly ever reached), while FB.VI was faster on the deck thanks to the low-alt optimized Merlin 25 engines. NF.XXX could not carry bombs and did not have the 303 mgs.

 

NF’s radars will be useless in the game during day time, and night flying will not be fun at all. The other interesting Mossie variant to have is FB.XVIII “tse-tse” with the 57mm (“6 pounder”) Mollins BFG. It won’t be much of a dogfighter carrying that beast plus a ton of extra armor - but damn, blasting away with that thing must be fun!

 

It's all good, we can blast away at the more armoured targets the 50s and 20s cant damage!

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NF’s radars will be useless in the game during day time, and night flying will not be fun at all. The other interesting Mossie variant to have is FB.XVIII “tse-tse” with the 57mm (“6 pounder”) Mollins BFG. It won’t be much of a dogfighter carrying that beast plus a ton of extra armor - but damn, blasting away with that thing must be fun!

 

I actually like flying these things at night, but I'm in a bit of a minority I suspect. I have a family connection with practically all WW2 British radar though, so there is extra interest there.

 

Don't think there's any Moilins equipped ones left - there were only 18 of them anyway, generally rockets seemed to be the popular choice ( even if you can't hit the side of a battleship with them... ). If you include the Candian & Aussie variations on the one we're getting there are a few more to choose from, one of them flyable.

 

The museum is at Salisbury Hall, where the prototype was built ( it's still there, too ).

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I actually like flying these things at night, but I'm in a bit of a minority I suspect. I have a family connection with practically all WW2 British radar though, so there is extra interest there.

 

Don't think there's any Moilins equipped ones left - there were only 18 of them anyway, generally rockets seemed to be the popular choice ( even if you can't hit the side of a battleship with them... ). If you include the Candian & Aussie variations on the one we're getting there are a few more to choose from, one of them flyable.

 

The museum is at Salisbury Hall, where the prototype was built ( it's still there, too ).

 

I would also love to have an NF version. But that would require having British bombers over Europe at night, and German night fighters. Guess we have to be satisfied with 1946.

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years ago I helped re wire that mossy in the museum, I lived close by and as my dad made them it was pretty cool, he also said the a few pilots drew a marker on the windows so they could line up for low level bomb runs.

where we live now was a secret early base for a few of them to go and defend Portsmouth, very weird but where we live now is the old mossy base and a flying spit, which my wifes aunt used to fly (deliver) women weren't allowed ammo....far too dangerous for the poor things, we also had a pilot live in our house, so strange how things come around,

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I would also love to have an NF version. But that would require having British bombers over Europe at night, and German night fighters. Guess we have to be satisfied with 1946.

 

Or German bombers over England, although not in any great number by then. Maybe if someone does a Beaufighter...

 

years ago I helped re wire that mossy in the museum, I lived close by and as my dad made them it was pretty cool, he also said the a few pilots drew a marker on the windows so they could line up for low level bomb runs.

where we live now was a secret early base for a few of them to go and defend Portsmouth, very weird but where we live now is the old mossy base and a flying spit, which my wifes aunt used to fly (deliver) women weren't allowed ammo....far too dangerous for the poor things, we also had a pilot live in our house, so strange how things come around,

 

My grandfather was an expert in various period electronics - mostly vacuum tubes & other devices relating to electromagnetics ( found patents from the early 40s with his name on them, wish they weren't government owned coz 1940s radar shares a lot with microwave ovens! ) & worked on most types of wartime radar, so those sorts of contraptions ( not really any other way to describe early radar ) always fascinated me.

 

I suspect ATA pilots of both sexes weren't issued with ammo because they both weren't military and weren't trained to fight, so regulations would say "no way". At least everyone got paid the same...

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i dont think anyone has made any promise of an AI Lanc, though it would be nice, not sure how many people fly at night though...

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i dont think anyone has made any promise of an AI Lanc, though it would be nice, not sure how many people fly at night though...

 

By Now, has not plans for Lancaster or other english bomber on WW2 assets pack, but with the Mossie module in progress, ED will be added more UK content to them as on last year newsletter was added UK AAA, surely can be get more and more incoming, and I think the new "channel" map can boost them.

 

Or German bombers over England, although not in any great number by then. Maybe if someone does a Beaufighter...

 

Ju-88 has incoming, ED tell in the past about build a He111 and Wags tell on PcPilot interview about a Ju-87 Stuka.

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By Now, has not plans for Lancaster or other english bomber on WW2 assets pack, but with the Mossie module in progress, ED will be added more UK content to them as on last year newsletter was added UK AAA, surely can be get more and more incoming, and I think the new "channel" map can boost them.

 

That would be awesome, just nobody has committed to it yet :)

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I'd expect a V-1, not really sure where a Stuka would fit with everything else we have - cannon fodder at this point. Lanc would be great but seems a little unlikely ( and why didn't they do a B-24 instead of a B-17... ). We are a bit short of runnable LW night fighters, unfortunately.

 

Maybe one day they'll do a central Med map, can use practically anything then, think what you could sell for it!


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  • 2 weeks later...

The Mossie appears in all its glory in the DCS2020 trailer, but the news item post failed to mention it:

While 2019 was a monumental year for DCS World, we have even bigger and better things in store for 2020! This not only includes new aircraft like the P-47 Thunderbolt, Mi-24P Hind, and continued development of the F/A-18C Hornet and F-16C Viper, but we will also see detailed aircraft carrier operations with DCS: Supercarrier, and new maps to fly over like the free Marians Islands map and The Channel map. We will also be releasing updates to the A-10C Warthog and Ka-50 Black Shark (including a free cockpit update).

 

Please tell me it is still coming in 2020...

I am having a mild panic attack :shocking: :fear:

“Mosquitoes fly, but flies don’t Mosquito” :pilotfly:

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The Mossie appears in all its glory in the DCS2020 trailer, but the news item post failed to mention it:

 

 

Please tell me it is still coming in 2020...

I am having a mild panic attack :shocking: :fear:

 

After the P-47

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4160206&postcount=232

DCS: De Haviland Mosquito FB MK.VI

 

Following the P-47D, our next warbird will be the Mosquito. Noted for its impressive speed and heavy armament, the Mossy will provide a unique element to DCS World in both the attack and reconnaissance roles. Skimming Europe at tree-top height at high speed will be thrilling!

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I'd expect a V-1, not really sure where a Stuka would fit with everything else we have - cannon fodder at this point. Lanc would be great but seems a little unlikely ( and why didn't they do a B-24 instead of a B-17... ). We are a bit short of runnable LW night fighters, unfortunately.

 

Maybe one day they'll do a central Med map, can use practically anything then, think what you could sell for it!

 

B-24 is on the original list, just not on the almost done list. The B-25, B-26 and A-20 were also on the list.

 

The original list at release on 8 March 2017 of additional assets that were to be added in the future was:

 

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10158413498320341&id=441639040340

 

I think that if all of these had been added over the last three years, we would have a thriving WWII community in DCS now.


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B-24 is on the original list, just not on the almost done list. The B-25, B-26 and A-20 were also on the list.

 

The original list at release on 8 March 2017 of additional assets that were to be added in the future was:

 

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10158413498320341&id=441639040340

 

I think that if all of these had been added over the last three years, we would have a thriving WWII community in DCS now.

 

A-20 has incoming....

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4168367&postcount=233

Work continues on the World War II assets pack, with the addition of several important air, ground, and naval units including:

Ju-88A-4 medium bomber

A-20 Boston medium bomber

C-47 transport

MK.VIII Centaur IV tank

Mk.IV Churchill VII tank

Elefant self-propelled artillery

Stug III tank destroyer

M10 tank destroyer

QF 3.7-inch AA gun

37 mm Gun M1

M45 Quadmount that can be used on different platforms

8.8 cm Flak 41 AAA

Flakscheinwerfer 37 and generator support unit

Schnellboot Type S-100 E-Boat

Type VII U-Boat

We are also looking at adding some exciting new features to the Asset pack, which include Torpedoes, Paratroopers and functional searchlights.

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4029204&postcount=214

 

and build good quality 3D models take time. WW2 assets pack has been continue expand.

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Said it once, I'll say it again.

 

Despite having posted information covering this before regards the Spitty, and made the same observation against the the first WiP shots of the Mossie..

 

 

THE ROUNDELS ARE THE INCORRECT PROPORTIONS

 

Please ED fix this at least for the Mossie pre-release.

 

Given the date of the Mosquito FB. Mk.VIs entry into service these markings would have been factory applied to specifications laid out by the Air Ministry. THERE WAS NO REPAINTING AT UNIT LEVEL OF OLD 'B' ROUNDELS TO THIS NEWER 'C' TYPE FOR THIS AIRCRAFT TO ACCOUNT FOR WAYWARD PROPORTIONS (which would be unrepresentative anyway, and shouldn't the default aim to be representative of the most common markings?).

 

The overwing roundels should be of the ratio of 2:5 red diameter to blue diameter

 

The underwing roundels should be of the ratio of 3:4:8 red, white to blue diameters

 

The fuselage roundels should be of the ratio of f 3:4:8:9 red, white, blue to yellow diameters.


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After a close inspection of the video I am pleased to notice that the exhausts are of the multi-stubs type and not the ducted saxophone type.

 

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“Mosquitoes fly, but flies don’t Mosquito” :pilotfly:

- Geoffrey de Havilland.

 

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