JohnZ622 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 During startup, we need to do things like fire test, fcs test, lights test. Is this just for show or can the game generate random system failures during startup in which case these tests are actually necessary? If there is a failure, how can I repair it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moafuleum Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 You can activate random system failures and in the mission editor you can set the condition for many systems. If you don't mess aroundwith this, then it is just show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastyBaiter Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 They are just there for show. If you activate random failures, then they should work as expected but then you just spawn a new plane if you have a failure. System specs: i5-10600k (4.9 GHz), RX 6950XT, 32GB DDR4 3200, NVMe SSD, Reverb G2, WinWing Super Libra/Taurus, CH Pro Pedals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 ... can the game generate random system failures during startup in which case these tests are actually necessary? The game by itself doesnt generate failures .. but the Mission Designer can introduce them, both as random events or triggered by some situation ... this video shows an example: WwMSzQpqSLg Most people treat DCS just as a game, and so dont want failures (tough they will happen as a result of combat damage) .. but those of us who treat DCS as a flight simulator, do enjoy being able to practice the emergency procedures of an aircraft :) Best regards For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphamale Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 They are just there for show. If you activate random failures, then they should work as expected but then you just spawn a new plane if you have a failure. Is "spawning a new plane", the same as asking the ground crew to repair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalinDee Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 On a related topic of start up procedures, am I missing something with regard to radio operation prior to engine start? As far as I can see there is no way to use the radio before you've lit the fires, so getting start-up clearance isn't possible. Is that correct or have I just been missing something? Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VZ_342 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 (edited) Iirc, you should turn on electricity prior to engine start, so the radios should work. On topic: When flying an actual aircraft, checking emergency stuff isn’t just to delay the launch, it’s an actual life-and-death Real Thing™. So, technically it’s not needed but if you want to get the most out of DCS you should abide by proper procedures. Edited August 31, 2018 by VZ_342 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalinDee Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Yeah, sparking up the battery in this bird doesnt seem to get any power to whatever circuit powers the majority of the front panel controls. I've not messed with the ground power options - I'm not sure theyyre even modelled at this point (the bunch of ground power switches on the lower left side panel). Nothing really seems to come to life until one of the engines is lit and at idle.. Not a big deal of course, just flavour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VZ_342 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Sometimes aircraft need ground power to make things go...if grd pwr isn’t modeled yet that may be the issue (and answer!) you mentioned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoBlue Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I've not messed with the ground power options - I'm not sure theyyre even modelled at this point (the bunch of ground power switches on the lower left side panel). Nothing really seems to come to life until one of the engines is lit and at idle.. Not a big deal of course, just flavour. I got the radios(SRS, MP) working with ground-power only, by fiddling with them. Think it was EXT PWR ON & 3 B ON...or something similar. i7 8700k@4.7, 1080ti, DDR4 32GB, 2x SSD , HD 2TB, W10, ASUS 27", TrackIr5, TMWH, X-56, GProR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalinDee Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I got the radios(SRS, MP) working with ground-power only, by fiddling with them. Think it was EXT PWR ON & 3 B ON...or something similar. hmm Ok, Ill have to have a tinker. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldur Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Yeah, sparking up the battery in this bird doesnt seem to get any power to whatever circuit powers the majority of the front panel controls. I've not messed with the ground power options - I'm not sure theyyre even modelled at this point (the bunch of ground power switches on the lower left side panel). Nothing really seems to come to life until one of the engines is lit and at idle.. Not a big deal of course, just flavour. I just tried this a few days ago - ground power works, but the radios are still dead until the right engine is running. But I think I just tried the A channels. I got the radios(SRS, MP) working with ground-power only, by fiddling with them. Think it was EXT PWR ON & 3 B ON...or something similar. Gotta try that and the other Bs if needed. Or just check the NATOPS... It's 2 B (p. 1-2-38 / 110 in the A1-F18AC-NFM-000.pdf) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retu81 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I got the radios(SRS, MP) working with ground-power only, by fiddling with them. Think it was EXT PWR ON & 3 B ON...or something similar. There is a handy sign on the wall next to the ground power switches that show which systems are energized :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Painter- Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 - ground power - ON - all busses - ON B Do not remember out of my head which one, but one switch you need to hold for 3 seconds in its ON-position (it is intentional like that and according to the NATOPS) - I think it is the first ground-power-B-bus you apply. If I remember correct, it is implemented as it is like in the real jet. Regards REAPER 31 | Painter [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarTzi Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 On a related topic of start up procedures, am I missing something with regard to radio operation prior to engine start? As far as I can see there is no way to use the radio before you've lit the fires, so getting start-up clearance isn't possible. Is that correct or have I just been missing something? Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Just because it's like that in DCS doesn't mean it's true. IRL start-up clearance is really not a common thing. You start communicating once you can taxi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Targanon Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 You need to hold the switches on a few sec to get them to lock on for you Targs, GTX 1080ti, Asus Hero XI, Intel 9900KF @4.2MHz, 32g DDR4@3200Mhz, 4x 1Tb SSD 1x 400g m.2mvme(boot), 28" Samsung 4k, Saitek X-56 Throttle/Warthog Stick and Saitek Pro Flight Pedals. Moduls All of the NATO jets, and all the choppers.. DEDi MP [62AW] The Blackbirds Brisbane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VDV Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 No, its not. Just autostart and everything will be fine. Dont waste your time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceofspades9963 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Just because it's like that in DCS doesn't mean it's true. IRL start-up clearance is really not a common thing. You start communicating once you can taxi. Yes the procedure for doing a ground run would be contact tower after #2 is running and request a run-up. For normal starts it wouldn't be practical for say 20 jets to contacting tower for startups they have flight plans filed anyway like you said taxi is the first real contact with tower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahuja Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 (edited) Startup clearance is AFAICT all about making sure there are no ground crew too close to the engines as they are started. I believe comair are far stricter about this. I'm guessing the normal operating procedures of the f18 includes a startup in close coordination with nearby deck/ground crew, probably employing hand signals. Thus you don't need radios to make sure ground crew are clear. This was probably a consideration in the electrical systems design not powering the radios from the batteries. To get ground power in dcs f18, you ask for it from the ground crew, you move the 'ground power on' switch to reset (it falls back to on) and then apply power to desired systems with the remaining switches. The first switch has to be held for 3 seconds. In all cases, the B position is all the systems for the A position plus some more, so setting all switches to B powers all systems. There was a bug that would allow you to keep your plane on external power all throughout a flight, landing and post-shutdown, but I'm not able to do it now. Edited September 4, 2018 by mahuja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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