ST0RM Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Took up the Hornet from Tbilisi to a carrier off the coast. Set the A/P and immediately noticed a constant left bank, combined with a right rudder drift. Checked the FCS page and the rudder was trimmed to <--4 on both. Tried manual adjustment, but it didnt remove the trim. Additionally, no aileron trim would stop the A/P left bank. What happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDSSTT Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 (edited) Did you set HSEL or ATTH on A/P? (could cause unintentional banking) Were you flying asymmetric load? (will effect BALT/RALT A/P if not trimmed) Does your Stick have a proper deadzone set? (could effect BALT/RALT A/P from engaging) Does your Rudder center properly? (will cause perceived trim error on FCS as all control surface input displays a value) This would probably be best asked in the General F/A-18 Page, until this is determined to be a bug. Also, Mods will ask for track files and stuff here. Edited September 6, 2018 by DDSSTT [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.csg-2.net/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST0RM Posted September 6, 2018 Author Share Posted September 6, 2018 They can move it there, if they determine it. But yes, I checked all my controls. No asymmetric load. Did select HSEL after a time to see of the jet would trim itself out, but it did not. FCS showed no errors when running through the on ground test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST0RM Posted September 6, 2018 Author Share Posted September 6, 2018 Ok, I flew it again and can replicate it. The screens have a tilt because VR screen shots the left eye and I wanted to ensure I got the DDI and HUD. On the ground, FCS checks ok and controls set for takeoff After takeoff Rudders set to 4 Left by FCS A/P Set, jet banks left HSEL set to 270 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majapahit Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 I'd say its your controller calibration or you're unaware of a duplication axis defined by a random controller? | VR goggles | Autopilot panel | Headtracker | TM HOTAS | G920 HOTAS | MS FFB 2 | Throttle Quadrants | 8600K | GTX 1080 | 64GB RAM| Win 10 x64 | Voicerecognition | 50" UHD TV monitor | 40" 1080p TV monitor | 2x 24" 1080p side monitors | 24" 1080p touchscreen | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST0RM Posted September 6, 2018 Author Share Posted September 6, 2018 It wasnt there prior to the latest OB update. Calibration is fine. On the ground it would turn if my rudders were out of cal. Ailerons would indicate it as well. Can we get someone from ED to check this out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boscoh Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 It wasnt there prior to the latest OB update. Calibration is fine. On the ground it would turn if my rudders were out of cal. Ailerons would indicate it as well. Can we get someone from ED to check this out? Have you re-checked your calibration? Check that out, and make sure your axis mappings are correct. I have had to redo mine after updates, or they have randomly gotten messed up (can not replicate). Easy to check, just don't assume it's fine. 3800X, X570, 32GB 3600, RTX 2080Ti, SSD, Odyssey+ VR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDSSTT Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 This has to be a calibration, incorrect key bindings (rudder trim), or double bound axis for rudder. Can you post a screen shot of the Controls Indicators, before startup, just spawn in cold and move your control surfaces around and let recenter. This will tell us if its an axis problem. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.csg-2.net/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldur Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Next time you see this, save a track and up it here, this sure will help the devs in case there really is an issue that's not on your controllers' side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphamale Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 What stick? If something like a CH Fighterstick which has its own throttle, and TRIM wheels...you may have inadvertently bumped the roll trim wheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST0RM Posted September 7, 2018 Author Share Posted September 7, 2018 Ok, so more testing tonight. I wasnt thinking that a CAP-9M and a TCTS pod were that different in weight, to warrant calling it asymmetric. But I was wrong. With that config (CAP-9M on left/TCTS right) the jet will add rudder trim and aileron roll the compensate. This is new, as in 2.5.2, a single CAP-9 would not induce much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raz_Specter Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 I have also experienced this on a random basis, flying and just letting go of the stick and the aircraft will just start to lean to the left, then because your leaning left it will start to nose dive Custom built W10 Pro 64Bit, Intel Core i9 9900k, Asus ROG Maximus Code XI Z390, 64GB DDR4 3200 RGB, Samsung 1TB NVme M.2 Drive, Gigabyte AORUS 2080TI, 40" Iiyama Display. Wacom Cintiq Pro 24, HOTAS Virpil T50 Stick / FA-18C TM Stick and Virpil T50 Throttle, MFG Crosswind Graphite Pedals. HP Reverb SPECTER [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Lead Terrain Developer / Texture Artist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamin_Squirrel Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 I may have an idea what's wrong as I have the same issue some times. Hopefully others can replicate. I think if you move either stick or rudder away from centre as you're loading into the aircraft, wherever you're holding it becomes the new centre point. Can anyone else try and see if they get the same result? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raz_Specter Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 I may have an idea what's wrong as I have the same issue some times. Hopefully others can replicate. I think if you move either stick or rudder away from centre as you're loading into the aircraft, wherever you're holding it becomes the new centre point. Can anyone else try and see if they get the same result? its happened to me when just taking off of the carrier then flying to some point. last time it happened I was not able to A2A re-fuel due to this issue Custom built W10 Pro 64Bit, Intel Core i9 9900k, Asus ROG Maximus Code XI Z390, 64GB DDR4 3200 RGB, Samsung 1TB NVme M.2 Drive, Gigabyte AORUS 2080TI, 40" Iiyama Display. Wacom Cintiq Pro 24, HOTAS Virpil T50 Stick / FA-18C TM Stick and Virpil T50 Throttle, MFG Crosswind Graphite Pedals. HP Reverb SPECTER [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Lead Terrain Developer / Texture Artist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macedk Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 For testing, set is high deadzone if on a analog axis controller. OS: Win10 home 64bit*MB: Asus Strix Z270F/ CPU: Intel I7 7700k /Ram:32gb_ddr4 GFX: Nvidia Asus 1080 8Gb Mon: Asus vg2448qe 24" Disk: SSD Stick: TM Warthog #1400/Saitek pro pedals/TIR5/TM MFDs [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doum76 Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) On my side only time i ever have turning issues it'S whne i select A/P HSEL, even though i'm mostly facong straight my HSEL setup. But again been quite a while i haven'T used HSEL, i most of the time only use ATTH and BALT. Edited September 7, 2018 by Doum76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sideshow Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Funny. I'm flying right now and just noticed this. Thought it was me until I hopped on my phone and found this post. Even with HSEL, the thing keeps a slight left roll past the heading bug. The FCS page shows the ailerons are zeroed out, but still holds a slight left hand bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldur Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 If it's just slight, go and check your fuel page. There might be an imbalance in L and R wing tanks, had that once and don't actually know why, but it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drmorrish Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Same issue. Today. Multiple flights. But I’m a new pilot. Please help. Severe un commanded roll sometime left, sometime right. Depends on which direction I’m facing which is weird. Can trim it out but then I make a maneuver and it’s borked again. Dead zone 4 on tm warthog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JumpinK Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) I just thought I had the same problem on my last flight... ...found the thread here and now I'm thinking even more that this problem occued during my last flight... ...will go for further testing now... Edit: tested. couldn't replicate. Edited September 9, 2018 by JumpinK "Landing on the ship during the daytime is like sex, it's either good or it's great. Landing on the ship at night is like a trip to the dentist, you may get away with no pain, but you just don't feel comfortable" — LCDR Thomas Quinn, USN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drmorrish Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Calibration on TMWH Grip for me. Center was off by over 3000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darcaem Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 (edited) Did anyone find any solution/cause to this? I have just updated to 2.5.4.28090 open beta and it is happening to me. I'm attaching a pair of tracks from the Free Flight mission on Caucasus. I am experiencing this either when dark and cold, hot start, starting from the catapult and spawning on the air. Always with symetric loadout or empty. EDIT: it is only happening with the Hornet to me EDIT2: it seems that the aircrafts banks to the opposite direction of the latest "long enough" turn. If I do a 90 degree left turn, it banks right after leveling, and vice versa.t2.trkt1.trk Edited March 3, 2019 by Darcaem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammit Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Also experiencing this, almost as if theres a runaway trim. Uncommanded roll both left and right at all flight regimes "If the MWS didn't see it, it didn't happen" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canada_Moose Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Bugs section. Reported as of Friday patch https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=233505 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darcaem Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Bugs section. Reported as of Friday patch https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=233505 Thanks. Didn't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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