TM Cougar & CH magnetoresistive/ hall sensor kits

[BlacleyCole]

No I can’t find it now I must be overlooking the link.

[Orr89]

You might be interested in my Cougar Throttle hall sensor then. This will fix a jumpy pot. Check which mainboard type you have (instructions in the first post) and shoot me an email. While your at it you can also clean the Throttle mechanism and check if the resistance lever (operated by the little turn wheel) is seated correctly. It should be buttery smooth afterwards.

 

My TQS SN is 8218. It might be the earlier TQS then which have the hex screws. I am talking about the red little laptop mouse thingy, I only know it as clit mouse. :D It is about the worst slew input I can imagine... There's no way in hell I will keep that thing on my TQS, not sure what the TM engineers were thinking.

 

Think I sent oyu an email the other night :) If not let me know haha! I've got some 767a grease inbound so I'm going to do a bit of a refreasher to the whole unit.

 

Does your Hall sensor kit just drop in and plug 'n' play with the current stock pCB?

[rel4y]

Think I sent oyu an email the other night :) If not let me know haha! I've got some 767a grease inbound so I'm going to do a bit of a refreasher to the whole unit.

 

Does your Hall sensor kit just drop in and plug 'n' play with the current stock pCB?

I believe I just answered both your PM and email. On Sunday I only answered half of the emails, then I got distracted by something. The hall sensor is a plug and play replacement. It has the same connector as the original pot. You just stick in the magnet axle, seat the sensor and plug it in. Then recalibrate and done.

 

I just received the shipping notice from Shapeways. That means the newest gen CH sensor housings are on their way to me. Yay. :)

The final 12 Bit CH upgrade mainboards are also done and will go live together with the CH sensors.

[BlacleyCole]

I understand the setup now sorry for my confusion thanks for resending the pdf. I was hoping there would have been on showing the mounting of the sensor better and the how to on the stick but after the throttle I should be able to manage the stick.

[Orr89]

I believe I just answered both your PM and email. On Sunday I only answered half of the emails, then I got distracted by something. The hall sensor is a plug and play replacement. It has the same connector as the original pot. You just stick in the magnet axle, seat the sensor and plug it in. Then recalibrate and done.

 

I just received the shipping notice from Shapeways. That means the newest gen CH sensor housings are on their way to me. Yay. :)

The final 12 Bit CH upgrade mainboards are also done and will go live together with the CH sensors.

 

I got to open up my Throttle this evening and look at the board for the supply you said in the email. I believe is a later model so should be fine, but I'll double / Triple check.

[rel4y]

I understand the setup now sorry for my confusion thanks for resending the pdf. I was hoping there would have been on showing the mounting of the sensor better and the how to on the stick but after the throttle I should be able to manage the stick.

 

It honestly never seemed necessary to me as the stick sensors are really self explanatory to install. However, I believe there are some YouTube tutorials on Cougar disassembly which may help. Make sure to remove the small hex screws of the Gameport connectors to access the stick PCB, that may cause the only hiccup I can think of right now.

 

What do you want to know about throttle sensor mounting? There is not much to it really, just remove the old pot, stick in the magnet axle, stick in the sensor and your done. Everything only fits in one way. :)

[rel4y]

I shipped the first January batch today. Id like to apologize for taking so long. The tracking numbers will be mailed out tomorrow.

 

Just wanted to give a few quick updates, while I am overall very busy with work right now. Last weekend I finished testing the 12 Bit CH upgrade mainboards and new rev 1.3 CH sensors. The new CH sensors fit every CH device plug and play and now finally have the correct spade crimps. :thumbup: This is what the final products look like: (Lower right is a rev 1.2 CH sensor board, these are the only ones to fit the CH pedals Z axis. This one goes to GaryR as replacement for the sensor board we grilled together. :))

 

 

 

Btw, can someone send me a broken Warthog (pinky/ thumb) switch? Id love to make a replacement with high quality japanese OMRONs.

Edited January 21, 2020 by rel4y

[IAF.Cheetah]

What batch did you send? for the CH gear or the Thrustmaster?

Cause I'm waiting for the CH and didn't get nothing on my mail about this.

[rel4y]

The batch consisted of shift regs and TM mods. Like I said, I just finished testing the 12 Bit CH upgrade mainboards and new rev 1.3 CH sensors this weekend. I have only made two of each so far, but it will be going full steam in a few days. Dont worry you are at the very top of my preorder list Cheetah. :)

[Solbaru]

Im looking at buying the USB upgrade of my cougar that is being offered by MTWsims, does anyone that has completed the upgrade, use the cougar with thrustmaster TARGET??

Just want to check that it works with TARGET before I pull the trigger.

[Sokol1_br]

I think that since the upgrade controller use MMjoy2 firmware, you can enter Tm VID/PID and deceive TARGET, like with VirPil controllers.

[Pipe]

Hey guys anyone using this "throttle" axis mod with real sim tusba . I cant seem to get this axis recognized. I did dl and install the Arduino file Marvin suggested, maybe I didn't install it correctly or wrong location. Everything else seems to be working..except "X" axis on microstick. This may just be the stick tho.

thx

Edited January 26, 2020 by Pipe

[rel4y]

Hey guys anyone using this "throttle" axis mod with real sim tusba . I cant seem to get this axis recognized. I did dl and install the Arduino file Marvin suggested, maybe I didn't install it correctly or wrong location. Everything else seems to be working..except "X" axis on microstick. This may just be the stick tho.

thx

 

Which throttle mod do you have? If you have the Throttle hall sensor, it has nothing to do with the Microstick axis at all. If you have the USB standalone adapter mod you shouldn't combine it with a Tusba. I'm confused.

[Pipe]

Sorry Marvin just mentioned the micro stick as it is an axis, I realize that it is probably the micro stick failing. I just have the hall sensor upgrade with the supplied pass through board that the hall sensor connects to. the pdf you sent doesn't even show this configuration..must be generic for all?

[rel4y]

Sorry Marvin just mentioned the micro stick as it is an axis, I realize that it is probably the micro stick failing. I just have the hall sensor upgrade with the supplied pass through board that the hall sensor connects to. the pdf you sent doesn't even show this configuration..must be generic for all?

 

Ah yes, in the December batches I simply copy pasted the shipment notice and adjusted the tracking number. The PDF is meant for the USB standalone adapter.

 

The voltage conversion board is inserted with the white JST connector pointing towards the diodes on the Throttle mainboard aka the side with lots of space. :)

 

Are all other axis working? You can check if you pinched a wire of the Microstick in the Throttle grip, that happens rather easily. Also check if one of the pins on the pass through board is maybe bent outwards and doesn't sit correctly in the connector. (I know this is rather unlikely.)

Edited January 27, 2020 by rel4y

[Pipe]

ok dumb question i'm sure..do I plug sensor in to main board or pass through board?

Edited January 27, 2020 by Pipe

[rel4y]

You plug the hall sensor into the little board. The board circumvents the voltage supply line on the mainboard and therefore also the resistor that causes the voltage to drop from 5V to 3.8V. So the hall sensor is then fed with full 5V that it needs for correct operation. The rest of the pins are simply passed through.

 

Maybe you can post a picture of your installation and I can check if everything is fine. :)

[Pipe]

Marvin sent you an email with picture

Thx

[BlacleyCole]

Rel4y will your sensor replace most potentiometers min flt sim gear?

[rel4y]

Rel4y will your sensor replace most potentiometers min flt sim gear?

I am afraid I dont quite understand your question. I am trying to make replacements for many different sensor types. The CH style ones work on a whole lot of gear.

 

CH Fighterstick/ Combatstick

CH Pro Throttle

CH Pedals

TM F-22 Pro

TM F-16 FLCS

TM F-16 TQS

[kEnnY_m]

rel4y, sent you an email on Thursday regarding the CH sensor. Definitely interested in buying one.

 

 

 

Are there any in stock?

[BlacleyCole]

Rel4y I’m wondering if you got a fix for the ant elb axis?

[rel4y]

rel4y, sent you an email on Thursday regarding the CH sensor. Definitely interested in buying one.

Are there any in stock?

Sorry, I have a bad cold currently. I will try to answer the emails in the next days.

 

Rel4y I’m wondering if you got a fix for the ant elb axis?

 

There may be a solution to this problem, Ill have to test around if it works. The solution could be graphite bearings instead of ball bearings. However, how to integrate the push button is beyond me currently.

[ChrisIhao]

Also very excited about this solution! Considered going the path of swapping to VKB or Virpil, but to be honest I think keeping my CH's is a much better solution. Looking forward to your reply rel4y.

 

Also; think I need to swap my springs soon. Anyone know of a good place to order, which also deliver internationally. And I'd LOVE to swap out that super imprecise mini joystick on the CH throttle...

 

Edit: Lol. Just checked, and I originally purchased the CH gear back in 2006. Imagine, how many 14 year old products work good, and look new, after this long? Basically nothing!

Edited February 19, 2020 by ChrisIhao

[Cyberadje]

Gentlemen,

 

Little question. I have Rel4y's adapter, easy as advertised and really good working. But, apparently I did something wrong. My 4 way switch (VHF, UHF,IFF IN/OUT) doesn't work. Does anyone of you know hoe to program this?

 

Thank you