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Pylon integrated dispenser system on the F/A-18C?


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Does the Hornet use weapon racks with integrated chaff/flare dispensers? Just like the PIDS (Pylon Integrated Dispenser System) on the F-16. And if so, is there any chance we will ever see something like this implemented in dcs?

 

 

(Reason for me to ask, is that I usually run out of chaffs & flares way to fast :P)

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Ehrm.. why has my question been moved?

 

I'm just asking if this pylon dispenser system will be added to the F18 module...

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i7-8700K @stock speed - GTX 1080TI @ stock speed - AsRock Extreme4 Z370 - 32GB DDR4 @3GHz- 500GB SSD - 2TB nvme - 650W PSU

HP Reverb G1 v2 - Saitek Pro pedals - TM Warthog HOTAS - TM F/A-18 Grip - TM Cougar HOTAS (NN-Dan mod) & (throttle standalone mod) - VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus with ALPHA-L grip - Pointctrl & aux banks <-- must have for VR users!! - Andre's SimShaker Jetpad - Fully adjustable DIY playseat - VA+VAICOM

 

~ That nuke might not have been the best of ideas, Sir... the enemy is furious ~ GUMMBAH

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I guess, although a strange way of saying that...

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i7-8700K @stock speed - GTX 1080TI @ stock speed - AsRock Extreme4 Z370 - 32GB DDR4 @3GHz- 500GB SSD - 2TB nvme - 650W PSU

HP Reverb G1 v2 - Saitek Pro pedals - TM Warthog HOTAS - TM F/A-18 Grip - TM Cougar HOTAS (NN-Dan mod) & (throttle standalone mod) - VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus with ALPHA-L grip - Pointctrl & aux banks <-- must have for VR users!! - Andre's SimShaker Jetpad - Fully adjustable DIY playseat - VA+VAICOM

 

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And it is not use an all F-16. PIDS, and PIDSU have only been used on specific ANG birds (Block 32 and below) and only some A and B models.

 

http://www.f-16.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13871

 

ECIPS, ECIPS+ and ECIPSU are exclusive to the Danish and Norway's AF F-16 AFAIK.


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And it is not use an all F-16. PIDS, and PIDSU have only been used on specific ANG birds (Block 32 and below) and only some A and B models.

 

http://www.f-16.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13871

 

ECIPS, ECIPS+ and ECIPSU are exclusive to the Danish and Norway's AF F-16 AFAIK.

 

Yeah I think you are right about that - at least only Denmark and Norway are mentioned as current operators of the upgraded PIDS+ and ECIPS+ in this article:

 

https://www.terma.com/about-us/doing-business-with-us/customer-stories/f-16/

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I think I also saw them on the Dutch F-16's, back in the day's when I was still working for the RNLAF (maintenance, not pilot ;) ). But I could be wrong though.

 

Don't understand why these pylons aren't standard loadout on all western (non stealth) fighter aircraft. Seems like the perfect way to increase countermeasure capabilities.


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System specs:

 

i7-8700K @stock speed - GTX 1080TI @ stock speed - AsRock Extreme4 Z370 - 32GB DDR4 @3GHz- 500GB SSD - 2TB nvme - 650W PSU

HP Reverb G1 v2 - Saitek Pro pedals - TM Warthog HOTAS - TM F/A-18 Grip - TM Cougar HOTAS (NN-Dan mod) & (throttle standalone mod) - VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus with ALPHA-L grip - Pointctrl & aux banks <-- must have for VR users!! - Andre's SimShaker Jetpad - Fully adjustable DIY playseat - VA+VAICOM

 

~ That nuke might not have been the best of ideas, Sir... the enemy is furious ~ GUMMBAH

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I think I also saw them on the Dutch F-16's, back in the day's when I was still working for the RNLAF (maintenance, not pilot ;) ). But I could be wrong though.

 

PIDS or ECIPS? - IIRC PIDS(original version) has been used by all EPAF countries for some time, but I am not sure about ECIPS.

 

PIDS+ is quite new though - RNLAF only ordered it last year:

https://www.terma.com/press/news-2016/missile-warning-and-flare-up-for-netherlands-f-16/

 

Don't understand why these pylons aren't standard loadout on all western (non stealth) fighter aircraft. Seems like the perfect way to increase countermeasure capabilities.

 

Like mentioned earlier, PIDS/ECIPS are directly aimed at the F-16, whereas the company has made other solutions for other aircraft(and helicopter) types, which you can read about here(if you can stomach the sales pitch):

 

https://www.terma.com/media/328396/terma_airbornes_brochure_-_a4_-_screen.pdf

 

...no mention of the F-18 though :)

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RAAF FA18s have additional Countermeasures integrated into pylons

 

https://saab.com/globalassets/publications-pdfs/eds/electronic-warfare-ew/bol_f-18_product_sheet.pdf

So my initial question was a valid one :thumbup:

 

(I sure like to have more chaffs and flares in the Hornet)

System specs:

 

i7-8700K @stock speed - GTX 1080TI @ stock speed - AsRock Extreme4 Z370 - 32GB DDR4 @3GHz- 500GB SSD - 2TB nvme - 650W PSU

HP Reverb G1 v2 - Saitek Pro pedals - TM Warthog HOTAS - TM F/A-18 Grip - TM Cougar HOTAS (NN-Dan mod) & (throttle standalone mod) - VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus with ALPHA-L grip - Pointctrl & aux banks <-- must have for VR users!! - Andre's SimShaker Jetpad - Fully adjustable DIY playseat - VA+VAICOM

 

~ That nuke might not have been the best of ideas, Sir... the enemy is furious ~ GUMMBAH

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