1600 psu???

[WelshZeCorgi]

I experienced some weird graphical issues and thought my old 850watt psu wasn't cutting it. Not really good with numbers i went over to outervision power supply calculator and plugged in my components and got the outrageous number of 1600 watt psu. double checked and triple checked to make sure that all my components were correct and it gives me a high watt recommendation.

 

fx9590 4.7ghz

32gb ddr3 ram

2 ssd

1 7500 sata disk drive

asus 8gb rx vega 64

coolermaster masterliquid ml240l

 

hotas warthog,

pedals

trackir

and a video game controller for other games like 'hitman' and 'witcher 3'

 

and it seems to add up to the reccomended psu of 1600...

 

does that sound kosher? it doesnt sound kosher. I'm suprised my old 850watt didnt just explode if that was the case...

[Gladman]

Way off. See my stats below. I have a 700W PSU

[BitMaster]

~750-850w is really OK

 

1000w if you plan ahead and OC heavily or do computing

 

 

your CPU is a watt monster, maybe that's why it's so high, dunno, + the Vega, tilted the algo LOL

[BitMaster]

Way off. See my stats below. I have a 700W PSU

 

As long as you dont oc ( you both ) that is ok and sufficient.

 

But if you overclock both CPU and GPU ( for Intel that might just be XMP to consume 160w-200w )

it may get close if you stresstest and such.

My system from sig does consume ~620w under full load and heavy OC, you have a higher wattage on your CPU and your GPU can also consume 300+ watts...

 

So, yeah, it is OK, just not if you plan to explore limits.

[WelshZeCorgi]

I was over clocking both. I stopped doing it but I guess that oc the cpu/vid card is sucking up too much power. But don't know how the calc came up with 1600 watts

[Gladman]

As long as you dont oc ( you both ) that is ok and sufficient.

 

But if you overclock both CPU and GPU ( for Intel that might just be XMP to consume 160w-200w )

it may get close if you stresstest and such.

My system from sig does consume ~620w under full load and heavy OC, you have a higher wattage on your CPU and your GPU can also consume 300+ watts...

 

So, yeah, it is OK, just not if you plan to explore limits.

 

 

Everything in my system is overclocked.

[boscoh]

Everything in my system is overclocked.

 

Nice! Have you measured how much power your system is pulling?

 

Based on the cpu and GPU alone you should be around 500W under heavy load taxing both cpu and gpu.

 

What model of power supply are you running? (PS - I'm a nerd so this stuff really interests me)

Edited November 26, 2018 by boscoh
Had my math wrong

[boscoh]

I experienced some weird graphical issues and thought my old 850watt psu wasn't cutting it. Not really good with numbers i went over to outervision power supply calculator and plugged in my components and got the outrageous number of 1600 watt psu. double checked and triple checked to make sure that all my components were correct and it gives me a high watt recommendation.

 

fx9590 4.7ghz

32gb ddr3 ram

2 ssd

1 7500 sata disk drive

asus 8gb rx vega 64

coolermaster masterliquid ml240l

 

hotas warthog,

pedals

trackir

and a video game controller for other games like 'hitman' and 'witcher 3'

 

and it seems to add up to the reccomended psu of 1600...

 

does that sound kosher? it doesnt sound kosher. I'm suprised my old 850watt didnt just explode if that was the case...

 

Both your cpu and gpu are very power hungry compared to their Intel and Nvidia counterparts, and you have a lot of devices drawing power, but 1600 is high.

 

Power supplies are one of the more subjective things. As long as your PSU meets your wattage requirements you are good. Power supplies are more efficient the lighter the load is against their max wattage rating, and there isn't a lot of price difference between, say, 750W and 1000W relative to the cost of your entire rig. The difference may be $30-50. You are probably requiring between 700-900W under load. I'd go with a 1000w power supply. I recently bought an EVGA G+ 1000W from best buy for $99. Grab that and put a kill-a-watt or a belkin power meter between your pc and the surge protector, and see what you get during stress testing.

 

I had the same issue as you with my 5yr old 850W when I put in my RTX 2080TI. I put in a 1000W even though I'm not using anywhere near that, and it's been solid since. I was disappointed, but I got 5yrs out of the PSU and it never gave me a lick of trouble.

[Demon_]

You don't choose a PSU on the wattage that he needs when running a stress test. Because you don't run a stress test every day, many hours per day.

Don't forget the "90% of utilization", because (when gaming) the components don't run at full wattage constantly, all together at the same time. The difference between "operating wattage" and "max wattage".

Edited November 26, 2018 by Demon_

[Demon_]

We know that to run DCS, his 9900K (TDP 95w, overclock at 150-180w) will need around 60w (20-30% utilization).

Then, video card 250w + CPU 80w + MoBo and stuff 80w. 410w for DCS

Edited November 26, 2018 by Demon_

[Demon_]

It's something like:

Fx9590 4.7Ghz= 220w

Vega 64= 300w

MoBo= 70w

stuff= 40w

630w X 90% utilization= 567w

Edited November 26, 2018 by Demon_

[Gladman]

Nice! Have you measured how much power your system is pulling?

 

Based on the cpu and GPU alone you should be around 500W under heavy load taxing both cpu and gpu.

 

What model of power supply are you running? (PS - I'm a nerd so this stuff really interests me)

 

I haven't measured it as of yet. Do you have a software that you can suggest. I was looking at purchasing a hardware device for my own curiosity.

 

I must apologize, I'm actually running a 650W: Thermaltake Smart Pro RGB 650W 80+ Bronze Smart Zero

 

I have a 1000W Corsair in my other system that I was planning on putting in there if I experienced any issues but haven't seen any to date.

[Jumbik]

PSU will not cause graphical issues, if the PSU would not be sufficient, your system would be unstable, it would either restart randomly or shut down completely.

 

Visual issues are usually tied to either overheating, game issues, drivers issues or graphical settings overall.

[BitMaster]

I haven't measured it as of yet. Do you have a software that you can suggest. I was looking at purchasing a hardware device for my own curiosity.

 

I must apologize, I'm actually running a 650W: Thermaltake Smart Pro RGB 650W 80+ Bronze Smart Zero

 

I have a 1000W Corsair in my other system that I was planning on putting in there if I experienced any issues but haven't seen any to date.

 

 

That's a close call Gladman, 650w with a Bronze rated PSU.

 

Your CPU can pull more than mine, 95watts is NOT what it pulls max when not overclocked, that is a wrong assumption. It will pull north of 150w out of the box if you stress it on all cores, like prime95 with AVX.

 

When I torture my system for stability test I usually draw ~612watts with 92% eff., that's without any fan spinning yet but close to the point where it starts tbh.

 

I'd put in the 1kW Corsair ( hopefully better than bronze ) in that rig, better safe than sorry.

 

650w is really on the edge, bronze on top, not good.

[Gladman]

BitMaster.

 

The worst that can happen is I get a blue screen or it shuts down. I've dealt with this type of thing before and I'll deal with that if it happens.

I'm aware that the CPU under load of all cores can cause many more issues but I use the system for DCS alone, 2 cores max.

[boscoh]

I haven't measured it as of yet. Do you have a software that you can suggest. I was looking at purchasing a hardware device for my own curiosity.

 

I must apologize, I'm actually running a 650W: Thermaltake Smart Pro RGB 650W 80+ Bronze Smart Zero

 

I have a 1000W Corsair in my other system that I was planning on putting in there if I experienced any issues but haven't seen any to date.

 

I just have a Belkin smart plug that I plug anything into when I want to see how much power it uses. My rig does around 400W when stress testing the whole system, and between 200-350W in DCS playing in 4K. I5 4670K @ 4.0ghz, 2080Ti FE, 16gb DDR.

 

I was disappointed when my 850W Corsair HX Gold power supply turned out to be the issue for reboots after I installed by 2080Ti, but it was 5 years old. The EVGA G+ 1000W that I replaced it with was only $30 more than the 750W PSU Best Buy had. Having been 5 years since my last PSU, it surprised me how cheap it was to get a 1000W unit. It's running like a champ and is likely very efficient due to the relatively light load. I'm expecting 500ish watts when I upgrade the CPU, motherboard, and memory soon.

[Demon_]

To run DCS, his system burn less then 450w.

Video card= 260w

CPU at 40% utilization= 80w

Mobo (90% utilization)= 70w

Stuff= 40w

His PSU is at 65% of the max. His PSU (650w max output, 780w peak output, 85% efficiency, high quality 105 °C Japanese capacitor) burn 80w of heat.

https://www.thermaltake.com/products-model_Specification.aspx?id=C_00003003

[David OC]

BitMaster.

 

The worst that can happen is I get a blue screen or it shuts down. I've dealt with this type of thing before and I'll deal with that if it happens.

I'm aware that the CPU under load of all cores can cause many more issues but I use the system for DCS alone, 2 cores max.

 

You hope your PSU doesn't take out your motherboard or GPU etc with it.

 

Most cheap PSU make nowhere near there rated power.

 

[Gladman]

This thread isnt about my setup. Thanks for the advice. If i want to pursue the topic further I'll post my own thread.

[etherbattx]

watts = amps x voltage

 

if you add 0.3 volts to overclock your cpu, how much does the watts increase?

[BitMaster]

BitMaster.

 

The worst that can happen is I get a blue screen or it shuts down. I've dealt with this type of thing before and I'll deal with that if it happens.

I'm aware that the CPU under load of all cores can cause many more issues but I use the system for DCS alone, 2 cores max.

 

 

 

 

YOu haven't seen a board with popped and melted caps yet, like after a blow-out of the PSU or thunderstrom.

 

 

Don't say we haven't warned you !

[ebabil]

you can provide energy to a town with a 1600watt psu lol

[Gladman]

YOu haven't seen a board with popped and melted caps yet, like after a blow-out of the PSU or thunderstrom.

 

 

Don't say we haven't warned you !

 

I believe my prior post was both polite and to the point. Don't push it.

[Backy 51]

you can provide energy to a town with a 1600watt psu lol

 

He has a trunk line directly linked to the local nuclear power plant to run that thing! Why, you could dry a supermodel's hair in 30 seconds with that thing ...

[BitMaster]

I believe my prior post was both polite and to the point. Don't push it.

 

Sorry pal, I didn't want to be inpolite or such, I have just seen a lot and burned PSU's were among the most destructive I have come across.

 

No worries, the " we have warned you.." should come along as a joke, weel, it didn't Haha

 

All good