Kusch Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 Mi-24 contractors driver over Sierra Leone; 1 Give me "flying telephone pole" (SA-2)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nscode Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 He wouldn't last 10 minutes in a real battle area flying like that Never forget that World War III was not Cold for most of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vistrel Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 LOL, I like ROE. "- I see them but I'm not sure if they are civilians or rebels - Civilians are not supposed to be here <rocket fire> <machine gun fire>" What if it was some undocumented civilian village lol ? Warning: The following might cause stupidity http://youtube.com/watch?v=25LceCPO1ys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaman Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 He wouldn't last 10 minutes in a real battle area flying like that Why are you so keen? Do you have any RL experience in Mi-24 tactics? All bullets in Sierra Leone were real FYI. Many people died. 51PVO Founding member (DEC2007-) 100KIAP Founding member (DEC2018-) :: Shaman aka [100☭] Shamansky tail# 44 or 444 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 100KIAP Regiment Early Warning & Control officer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nscode Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 Yes, they were real, but only small arms fire. Just look at some videos of how pros do it. To overfly target = to die. Never forget that World War III was not Cold for most of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Groove Posted June 24, 2007 ED Team Share Posted June 24, 2007 He wouldn't last 10 minutes in a real battle area flying like that Would he fly like that in a "real battle arena" ? Our Forum Rules: http://forums.eagle.ru/rules.php#en Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nscode Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 Probably not, but I wouldn't think he'd fly at all ;) Never forget that World War III was not Cold for most of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBS17 Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 He wouldn't last 10 minutes in a real battle area flying like that The Hind is armour plated, an exSAS guy was in Afghanistan during the cold war supplying Stinger missiles and he wound up in a camp with the locals that got attacked by Hinds. The Hinds flew NOE and popped up firing those rockets and then just hovered over the base like they owned it. They even took ground fire from small arms and just replied using the gun on the chin turret they can take a fair bit of punishment. [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solidburn Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Agreed Subs...the Hind in a flying Tank (Gotta love the ole' girl) "I know Not that which you have said, but if I had medication I would (Robin Williams)" [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tflash Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 LOL, I like ROE. "- I see them but I'm not sure if they are civilians or rebels - Civilians are not supposed to be here <rocket fire> <machine gun fire>" What if it was some undocumented civilian village lol ? Anyway he didn't seem to need all these elaborate 3D-models of ground vehicles and troops we will have in BS to identify the target. You just see the rockets go "somewhere civilians are not supposed to be". I guess, as a civilian, you know that you are not supposed to be somewhere when a Hind shows up :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weta43 Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 I guess, as a civilian, you know that you are not supposed to be somewhere when a Hind shows up So should a battle ever break out over your town you'll be walking out onto the street to make for an easier shot because by being there you've become a legitimate target ? The guy seems pretty gung ho & casual about taking out civilians, but it's precisely that "if they're in the area they must be the enemy" attitude that the Afghan government was complaining about this week & that has led to over a hundred civilian deaths from NATO/US airstrikes/bombardment in the last week. You can't do a pinpoint strike on a home in a civilian village with an artillery peice from 20km away -unless you consider the local colatoral damage less valuable than your own troops (which of course is tempting - they are after all YOUR troops, & NO - I'm not suggesting that NATO/US are the only people do this, it's what happens in a war - doesn't make it right though.) Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avimimus Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 So should a battle ever break out over your town you'll be walking out onto the street to make for an easier shot because by being there you've become a legitimate target ? The guy seems pretty gung ho & casual about taking out civilians, but it's precisely that "if they're in the area they must be the enemy" attitude that the Afghan government was complaining about this week & that has led to over a hundred civilian deaths from NATO/US airstrikes/bombardment in the last week. You can't do a pinpoint strike on a home in a civilian village with an artillery peice from 20km away -unless you consider the local colatoral damage less valuable than your own troops (which of course is tempting - they are after all YOUR troops, & NO - I'm not suggesting that NATO/US are the only people do this, it's what happens in a war - doesn't make it right though.) Its so much damn firepower these days. Necessary if you have to fight a major European war (which would probably make Europe uninhabitable) but a bit over the top for fighting Guerillas. I agree totally with the point: this is what happens in war. Eventually you wind up with a bunch of battle created sociopaths mixed in with the rest of the troops. Things become clinical and people forget that human beings are in the equation, who can really blame them? It is the rest of society's responsibility to managed how and how much killing takes place, what resources and ROE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tflash Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 So should a battle ever break out over your town you'll be walking out onto the street to make for an easier shot because by being there you've become a legitimate target ? The guy seems pretty gung ho & casual about taking out civilians, but it's precisely that "if they're in the area they must be the enemy" attitude that the Afghan government was complaining about this week & that has led to over a hundred civilian deaths from NATO/US airstrikes/bombardment in the last week. You can't do a pinpoint strike on a home in a civilian village with an artillery peice from 20km away -unless you consider the local colatoral damage less valuable than your own troops (which of course is tempting - they are after all YOUR troops, & NO - I'm not suggesting that NATO/US are the only people do this, it's what happens in a war - doesn't make it right though.) Oops, Weta, I never wanted to imply that this was right in some way or another. It just isn't, we all agree about that. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusch Posted June 27, 2007 Author Share Posted June 27, 2007 Sierra Leone Crocodile Give me "flying telephone pole" (SA-2)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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