Litening for Hornet

[Fri13]

And HARM...omg its like dream come true. So many good news. :)

HARM comes later, the post says they simply bring Litening from A-10C while they keep working with HARM and Navy used targeting pod...

 

This is just their other shortcut to bring a targeting pod quickly for hornet pilots...

 

 

 

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[Fri13]

Canadian Hornets aren't flared either ,they do give it a shot of throttle right before touchdown to lower the decent rate usually. The landing gear doesn't like to be gently put down and strange and undesirable things can happen if put down too lightly.

Too bouncy? So you put weight on it quickly, to avoid uncontrolled bouncing at snow and icy strip?

 

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[SkateZilla]

AI F-18C can use LITENING and I think two other pods now. And AI F-18C is older model than our F-18C Lot20.

 

The old AI F-18C loadouts are incorrect, dont use them as a basis for whats realistic abd whats not.

 

USMC Hornets use Litening on Land and ATFLIR on the boat.

 

the Litening systems are already coded, so why not code the interface and allow it to be used.

[norbot]

Litening is what we need! Makes the F/A-18C a good ground pounder at last. :thumbup:

[MrWolf]

If someone still has any doubt about being able to mount the Litening pod on the side of the aircraft. Oh man this is going to BE GREAT!!! :joystick::joystick::joystick:

 

 

 

No more poor pod with the MAV :lol::lol::lol:

 

 

 

 

[FZG_Immel]

That is great news. Does anyone know if the Litening pod on Marines Hornet can be slaved to the radar in A/A mode ?

 

it would be a great help in PVP server for IDing bogeys BVR because half the people are not on SRS to respond the raygun call and the current IFF is unreliable at best !

Edited January 4, 2019 by FZG_Immel

[MrWolf]

doesn't appear there is a substantial difference. both are closely matched in terms in capabilities

 

 

ATFLIR is a bit lighter, and is able said to be more shock resistant of carrier landing, however is more costly in price to the litening. Unlike the ATFLIR the Lightening pod is carried on the Centerline Pylon

 

 

in the US, only the USMC uses Litening but only when operating from land ( 3/4ths of the time) . On carriers, they operate the ATFLIR largely for the sake of commonality with USN legacy hornets ( 1/4th of the time) . US navy only operates the ATFLIR irregardless if from carrier or from land.

 

https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a498288.pdf

 

 

 

This has been already answered the litening pod can go in the same places as ATFLIR. https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3744472&postcount=96

[Banzaiib]

doesn't appear there is a substantial difference. both are closely matched in terms in capabilities

 

 

ATFLIR is a bit lighter, and is able said to be more shock resistant of carrier landing, however is more costly in price to the litening. Unlike the ATFLIR the Lightening pod is carried on the Centerline Pylon

 

Almost all of this is wrong, aside from the atflir being a bit lighter and more expensive.

 

to be very clear, the Lpod (LITENING) can be carried on the cheek stations on the F/A-18C

[lmp]

Almost all of this is wrong, aside from the atflir being a bit lighter and more expensive.

 

to be very clear, the Lpod (LITENING) can be carried on the cheek stations on the F/A-18C

 

What specifically is wrong (honest question, not trying to challenge what you said)?

[SkateZilla]

If someone still has any doubt about being able to mount the Litening pod on the side of the aircraft. Oh man this is going to BE GREAT!!! :joystick::joystick::joystick:

 

 

 

No more poor pod with the MAV :lol::lol::lol:

 

 

 

 

 

But thats sith a new Custom Attachment that isnt modeled in DCS yet.

[SkateZilla]

That is great news. Does anyone know if the Litening pod on Marines Hornet can be slaved to the radar in A/A mode ?

 

it would be a great help in PVP server for IDing bogeys BVR because half the people are not on SRS to respond the raygun call and the current IFF is unreliable at best !

 

Litening Pod is not a Tactical Camera System.

[Hog_No32]

Litening Pod is not a Tactical Camera System.

 

Uh, does that answer imply it cannot be slaved as the OP asked? From the A-10C we know the Litening has an A/A mode so I think the question is very reasonable. Certainly it is not what the Litening is primarily used for but it might be an interesting option. I‘m thinking of a helo which I have locked with my radar at low level and I might want to have the TGP looking there what the helo is actually doing.

 

IIRC IRL the TGP can be slaved to a ground target designated by the radar in A/G mode in the Hornet. That makes me believe slaving it to a target designated by the radar in A/A mode might be possible.

[Tenkom]

Uh, does that answer imply it cannot be slaved as the OP asked? From the A-10C we know the Litening has an A/A mode so I think the question is very reasonable. Certainly it is not what the Litening is primarily used for but it might be an interesting option. I‘m thinking of a helo which I have locked with my radar at low level and I might want to have the TGP looking there what the helo is actually doing.

 

IIRC IRL the TGP can be slaved to a ground target designated by the radar in A/G mode in the Hornet. That makes me believe slaving it to a target designated by the radar in A/A mode might be possible.

 

In falcon BMS you can slave the TGP(which I believe is a LITENING) to AA radar targets which is indeed very usefull for identifying targets.

[VirusAM]

In falcon BMS you can slave the TGP(which I believe is a LITENING) to AA radar targets which is indeed very usefull for identifying targets.

 

 

 

in falcon it should be a sniper...but there different tgp are modelled.

Anyway the a10c litening has an aa mode...so i think it can be done

[Eldur]

Seriously, LITENING was asked about countless times since the Hornet was first announced.

Always no no no.

Makes me think ATFLIR and the new infrared rendering development are not going well at all. LITENING is clearly plan B, hopefully a relatively painless plug and play for the dev team.

 

I think there might be another reason called LANTIRN... they just don't want to have the Cat overtaking their new flagship in A/G terms when it gets available soon. And probably, there's just the point that they can use some tech from the LITENING to develop the ATFLIR, so why not bring that one as well while they're at it when the USMC Hornets use it?

[FZG_Immel]

Litening Pod is not a Tactical Camera System.

 

that it is not, I know.

 

 

If it can be slaved to the A/A radar, like the sniper is, in Falcon BMS, would be VERY usefull for ID...

 

that is my question

[Kev2go]

This has been already answered the litening pod can go in the same places as ATFLIR. https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3744472&postcount=96

 

 

yes but as an interesting point brought up by Skate it wont be possible in game ( at least not now), due to being a different attachment point with that cheek.

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3745211&postcount=110

 

 

From in game reference ED with how modeled the prior F/A18 AI Hornet, it can't cheek carry Litening, only nitehawk on cheek station. Logically that mean that at an earlier point in time the capability wasn't there, since otherwise ED would have just included it for that station. Another theory that maybe it was possible but ED didn't at the time have a source to confirm on such possibility.

Edited January 5, 2019 by Kev2go

[Kev2go]

What specifically is wrong (honest question, not trying to challenge what you said)?

 

Besides where the Lpod can be carried, "almost everything else" was not incorrect. The misconception ( which certainly didn't start with me) wasalready rectified by countless forum community members including RL pilot LEX.

Edited January 5, 2019 by Kev2go

[SkateZilla]

Seriously, LITENING was asked about countless times since the Hornet was first announced.

Always no no no.

Makes me think ATFLIR and the new infrared rendering development are not going well at all. LITENING is clearly plan B, hopefully a relatively painless plug and play for the dev team.

 

 

It's more along the lines of, the Litening Pod Systems are coded, and it's compatible with the Hornet, so why not, there are Marine Pilots IRL that prefer the AN/AAQ-28 over the AN/ASQ-228 and vise versa.

 

It wasnt planned, but plans are subject to change, I dont see why you'd complain about MORE content.

 

The ATFLIR and New IR System are on track, the A-10C will likely benefit greatly from this as well as the Upcoming F-16CJ

[SkateZilla]

yes but as an interesting point brought up by Skate it wont be possible in game ( at least not now), due to being a different attachment point with that cheek.

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3745211&postcount=110

 

 

From in game reference ED with how modeled the prior F/A18 AI Hornet, it can't cheek carry Litening, only nitehawk on cheek station. Logically that mean that at an earlier point in time the capability wasn't there, since otherwise ED would have just included it for that station. Another theory that maybe it was possible but ED didn't at the time have a source to confirm on such possibility.

 

Correct, the Intake attachment being used is a new attachment being used by Spain,

 

the USMC Does not use this attachment, they use a modified Centerline BRU w/ Added Databus.

 

Advantages, Centerline gives Centered Un-Obstructed view of everything below Aircraft.

 

The Intake Station is obstructed by the airframe and stores.

[Shadow KT]

I think his reactions is more towards the way you said it, announced it... as if no one has asked for it or pointed out that it is in DCS already at all.

 

No biggie, just mentioning. No one is against more content, unless it is the F-16 ;)

[atsmith6]

I just read this. I have been waiting for a TGP for the F-18 for ages! My number one overriding concern however, and it's important, is this:

 

AT LAST!!! I LOVE YOU ED!!!!!

 

SkateZilla please consider forwarding this very specific concern to the devs (perhaps via a bug report). Might just make someone's day who's not expecting it :)

[Maverick966]

What are your opinions about latest mini update?

This seems totally wrong to me, as ED said they are simulating a Navy F-18C Hornet, so it should not have the Litening pod, it's the same reason why they gave the AGM-65F to the Hornet.

[FZG_Immel]

This seems totally wrong to me, as ED said they are simulating a Navy F-18C Hornet, so it should not have the Litening pod, it's the same reason why they gave the AGM-65F to the Hornet.

 

well, they also gave us USMC skins from the get go..

 

who cares ?`

 

if you think it's unreal on a USN Hornet, don't use it

[SkateZilla]

This seems totally wrong to me, as ED said they are simulating a Navy F-18C Hornet, so it should not have the Litening pod, it's the same reason why they gave the AGM-65F to the Hornet.

 

The USN Lot 20 can carry the Litening Pod, where do you think the USMC gets their Hornets from?. The US Navy.

 

The Litening Simply isnt used by the USMC when on the ship for 2 Reasons.

A. Less Inventory to carry

B. Litening isnt certified for Carrier Ops nor The Salt Water environment.

 

Litening is used by USMC otherwise because they got the Litening PODs cheaper. and the USMC Budget is a fraction of the other branch's budget.