Satarosa Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 What's the ACL mod ? What's the GT mod ? Real War, Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCs1uki5QsyuHUdvtmWJTOg?view_as=subscriber Real War, Voice Chat: https://discord.gg/UGa3KMe [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wunderwolf Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 I think its : ACL - Automatic Carrier Landing GT - Ground Tracking But dont ask me further ... im also just starting to read through all the docs available in the net. :-) Twitch : https://www.twitch.tv/wunderwolfx YouTube : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQLu0V_6GGqJYiwQf3gvmUw DCZ Discord : https://discord.gg/ytmqYqZ DCZ : https://www.digitalconflictzones.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaglewings Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 A lot about ACLS in F-14 is shown in this video. Windows 10 Pro 64bit|Ryzen 5600 @3.8Ghz|EVGA RTX 3070 XC3 Ultra|Corair vengence 32G DDR4 @3200mhz|MSI B550|Thrustmaster Flightstick| Virpil CM3 Throttle| Thrustmaster TFRP Rudder Pedal /Samsung Odyssey Plus Headset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satarosa Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 A lot about ACLS in F-14 is shown in this video. Ok for the ACL mod, but GT stay Mystery.. Real War, Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCs1uki5QsyuHUdvtmWJTOg?view_as=subscriber Real War, Voice Chat: https://discord.gg/UGa3KMe [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaglewings Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Nothing on GT feature as far I know. Let's hope Heatblur will give us that in the Tomcat Windows 10 Pro 64bit|Ryzen 5600 @3.8Ghz|EVGA RTX 3070 XC3 Ultra|Corair vengence 32G DDR4 @3200mhz|MSI B550|Thrustmaster Flightstick| Virpil CM3 Throttle| Thrustmaster TFRP Rudder Pedal /Samsung Odyssey Plus Headset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabuzomeu Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 From flight manual: AUTOPILOT ENGAGE —OFF switch ENGAGE — Engages autopilot. PITCH, ROLL, and YAW SAS switches must be engaged. No warmup required. Engages attitude hold. Requires weight off wheels. OFF — Disengages autopilot. HDG-OFF-GT switch HDG — Autopilot will lock on constant aircraft heading when aircraft is less than ±5 roll. OFF — Disengages heading hold and ground track. GT — Selects autopilot ground tracking computed at time of engagement using inertia navigation system (INS) data. Engaged by nosewheel steering pushbutton. Engaged by nosewheel steering pushbutton. (comment: I guess this compensates for wind drift, contrary to HDG above) ALT-OFF switch ALT — Autopilot will maintain barometric altitude. Engaged by nosewheel steering pushbutton. OFF— Disengages altitude mode. VEC/PCD-OFF-ACL VEC/PCD — Autopilot roll axis commands steer aircraft using data link signals for vectoring. If the precision course direction (PCD) discrete is present both roll and pitch axis commands are used. Engaged by nosewheel steering pushbutton. OFF — Disengages VEC/PCD and ACL modes. ACL — Autopilot will accept data link signals for carrier landing, using spoilers for roll and parallel servo for pitch. Only pitch commands are transmitted to stick movement. Engaged and disengaged by nosewheel steering pushbutton. Details: Asus Z-170E, Intel i5-6600K @ 4.2GHz, 16GB RAM MSI GTX970 Gaming 4G Win 10 Home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satarosa Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 From flight manual: AUTOPILOT ENGAGE —OFF switch ENGAGE — Engages autopilot. PITCH, ROLL, and YAW SAS switches must be engaged. No warmup required. Engages attitude hold. Requires weight off wheels. OFF — Disengages autopilot. HDG-OFF-GT switch HDG — Autopilot will lock on constant aircraft heading when aircraft is less than ±5 roll. OFF — Disengages heading hold and ground track. GT — Selects autopilot ground tracking computed at time of engagement using inertia navigation system (INS) data. Engaged by nosewheel steering pushbutton. Engaged by nosewheel steering pushbutton. (comment: I guess this compensates for wind drift, contrary to HDG above) ALT-OFF switch ALT — Autopilot will maintain barometric altitude. Engaged by nosewheel steering pushbutton. OFF— Disengages altitude mode. VEC/PCD-OFF-ACL VEC/PCD — Autopilot roll axis commands steer aircraft using data link signals for vectoring. If the precision course direction (PCD) discrete is present both roll and pitch axis commands are used. Engaged by nosewheel steering pushbutton. OFF — Disengages VEC/PCD and ACL modes. ACL — Autopilot will accept data link signals for carrier landing, using spoilers for roll and parallel servo for pitch. Only pitch commands are transmitted to stick movement. Engaged and disengaged by nosewheel steering pushbutton. So GT, we can say that is a route mod to navigate from waypoints to waypoints with autopilot? Real War, Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCs1uki5QsyuHUdvtmWJTOg?view_as=subscriber Real War, Voice Chat: https://discord.gg/UGa3KMe [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamin_Squirrel Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 So GT, we can say that is a route mod to navigate from waypoints to waypoints with autopilot? No. It holds your track across the ground, and that's it. Its only added sophistication over and above HDG is it'll compensate for any changes in wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uri_ba Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 GT will maintain Ground Track. If HDG maintain heading with compass. The GT maintains heading over ground using INS data. Analoge to this is the difference between "True airspeed" and "ground speed". Creator of Hound ELINT script My pit building blog Few DIY projects on Github: DIY Cougar throttle Standalone USB controller | DIY FCC3 Standalone USB Controller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satarosa Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 Ok thanks Real War, Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCs1uki5QsyuHUdvtmWJTOg?view_as=subscriber Real War, Voice Chat: https://discord.gg/UGa3KMe [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonk Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 The manual mentions it also has Attitude Mode Autopilot modes available are attitude hold, heading hold, ground track, altitude hold, vector/pcd (precision course direction) and acl (automatic carrier landing)., but does not explain how to engage this... What am I missing... Thanks. Intel Intel Core i7-8086K 32 Gig RAM 1 Tb Nvme SSD EVGA 1080Ti Win 10 64 Pro LG 34UM95 34 inch Monitor Track IR 5 Oculus Rift HOTAS Warthog...mod'd TDC SIMPEDS Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VampireNZ Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) The manual mentions it also has Attitude Mode , but does not explain how to engage this... What am I missing... Thanks. Attitude hold is just simply when you ENGAGE the AP with the inboard master switch on the AP panel. It will hold whatever attitude (bank and pitch) you leave the aircraft - so for eample you can put the aircraft in a 20 degree bank to the left and let the stick go - the AP will trim and hold that bank/pitch. You can speed up and slow down and the AP will auto-trim for you, so you can also use it as an auto-trim in that regard with an engage then disengage. But ideally AP should not be used above 400KIAS as per NATOPS limitations. Edited March 20, 2019 by VampireNZ Asus Maximus VIII Hero Alpha| i7-6700K @ 4.60GHz | nVidia GTX 1080ti Strix OC 11GB @ 2075MHz| 16GB G.Skill Trident Z RGB 3200Mhz DDR4 CL14 | Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2 SSD | Corsair Force LE 480GB SSD | Windows 10 64-Bit | TM Warthog with FSSB R3 Lighting Base | VKB Gunfighter Pro + MCG | TM MFD's | Oculus Rift S | Jetseat FSE [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonk Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Attitude hold is just simply when you ENGAGE the AP with the inboard master switch on the AP panel. It will hold whatever attitude (bank and pitch) you leave the aircraft - so for example you can put the aircraft in a 20 degree bank to the left and let the stick go - the AP will trim and hold that bank/pitch. You can speed up and slow down and the AP will auto-trim for you, so you can also use it as an auto-trim in that regard with an engage then disengage. But ideally AP should not be used above 400KIAS as per NATOPS limitations. Roger...:pilotfly: Thanks. :thumbup: Intel Intel Core i7-8086K 32 Gig RAM 1 Tb Nvme SSD EVGA 1080Ti Win 10 64 Pro LG 34UM95 34 inch Monitor Track IR 5 Oculus Rift HOTAS Warthog...mod'd TDC SIMPEDS Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snacko Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Sorry if I missed this here, but I am a bit confused about the controls for AP. Several of them are controlled by the NWS button, but they don't work. The manual says this about AP: 4. VEC/PCD/ACL switch Switch controlling the remote control modes of autopilot. VEC/PCD - Vector/PCD mode. Roll and pitch axis is controlled by data link. Engaged by NWS button on pilot stick. OFF - Function off. ACL - Automatic carrier landing mode. Engaged by NWS button on pilot stick. 5. ALT switch ON/OFF switch, enables altitude hold. Engaged by NWS button on pilot stick. 6. HDG switch Selects HDG hold mode. HDG - Engages heading hold mode. OFF - Heading hold off. GT - Ground track mode, engaged by NWS button on pilot stick. And then, for the NWS on the Stick it says: 6. Autopilot reference & nosewheel steering button Button toggling nosewheel steering with weight on wheels. Without weight on wheels is used to engage enabled autopilot modes. But when I press the NWS button on the stick, or the N Keycommand, no switches move. Is this functional in the OB yet? Intel I9-10850K (OC @ 5.0ghz) │ Asus Maximus XII Hero │ G.Skill Ripjaws 64GB (4x16GB) DDR4 3200 │ Thermaltake Water 360mm Gigabyte RTX 4090 Gaming OC 24gb │ 2TB M.2 EVO Pro; 1T M.2 EVO; Sandisk SSD Drives │ 49" Samsung Curved Widescreen │ 28" Touchscreen - ҉ - Blackshark Cockpit Trainer - ҉ - ♣ Thread | ♥ Download Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamin_Squirrel Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Have you moved the enable switch to engage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VampireNZ Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 But when I press the NWS button on the stick, or the N Keycommand, no switches move. Is this functional in the OB yet? Yes it is functional - to put it simply, any AP mode that when selected results in the A/P REF light being illuminated at the bottom of the vertical ladder lights next to the VDI, requires a push of the NWS button to 'engage'. ALT HOLD for example. Asus Maximus VIII Hero Alpha| i7-6700K @ 4.60GHz | nVidia GTX 1080ti Strix OC 11GB @ 2075MHz| 16GB G.Skill Trident Z RGB 3200Mhz DDR4 CL14 | Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2 SSD | Corsair Force LE 480GB SSD | Windows 10 64-Bit | TM Warthog with FSSB R3 Lighting Base | VKB Gunfighter Pro + MCG | TM MFD's | Oculus Rift S | Jetseat FSE [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snacko Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Thanks, yes I have tried it with the Autopilot Enabled. I'll look for the AP Ref light. Thanks. Sent from my Moto Z Play using Tapatalk Intel I9-10850K (OC @ 5.0ghz) │ Asus Maximus XII Hero │ G.Skill Ripjaws 64GB (4x16GB) DDR4 3200 │ Thermaltake Water 360mm Gigabyte RTX 4090 Gaming OC 24gb │ 2TB M.2 EVO Pro; 1T M.2 EVO; Sandisk SSD Drives │ 49" Samsung Curved Widescreen │ 28" Touchscreen - ҉ - Blackshark Cockpit Trainer - ҉ - ♣ Thread | ♥ Download Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satarosa Posted March 20, 2019 Author Share Posted March 20, 2019 The GT mod in the game, doing what? Real War, Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCs1uki5QsyuHUdvtmWJTOg?view_as=subscriber Real War, Voice Chat: https://discord.gg/UGa3KMe [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonesvf103 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Yeah, really it's unclear. I just tried it and really what you need to do is select a mode. THEN hit the autopilot engage switch. Then the light will turn in next to the VSI. THEN hit the NWS button. THEN autopilot works. v6, boNes "Also, I would prefer a back seater over the extra gas any day. I would have 80 pounds of flesh to eat and a pair of glasses to start a fire." --F/A-18 Hornet pilot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 The GT mod in the game, doing what? It's an autopilot Mode similar to heading hold, but compensating for wind drift. To engage switch HDG-OFF-GT switch to GT position. When the A/P REF warning light (13) illuminates, press the nosewheel steering pushbutton on the control stick grip. When the A/P REF warning light goes off, the mode is engaged. 1 For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvroLanc Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 It's an autopilot Mode similar to heading hold, but compensating for wind drift. To engage switch HDG-OFF-GT switch to GT position. When the A/P REF warning light (13) illuminates, press the nosewheel steering pushbutton on the control stick grip. When the A/P REF warning light goes off, the mode is engaged. Except that this doesn’t work. The A/P ref light doesn’t illuminate for GT Mode. Looks like it’s still to be added. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satarosa Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 Wait and see Real War, Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCs1uki5QsyuHUdvtmWJTOg?view_as=subscriber Real War, Voice Chat: https://discord.gg/UGa3KMe [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raubritter Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 On 3/28/2019 at 2:07 PM, AvroLanc said: Except that this doesn’t work. The A/P ref light doesn’t illuminate for GT Mode. Looks like it’s still to be added. still have a problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvroLanc Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Raubritter said: still have a problem Yeah two years later, GT mode still hasn't been added. Personally I've not found a great need for it, since winds don't change with location. But would be nice if it got looked at in the march to completeness. Edited May 6, 2021 by AvroLanc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sublime Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Wow so either the autopilot works without hitting nosewheel steering or I've never used the autopilot (LOL) I guess I thought I was and the airplane just was trimmed out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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