ED to force a mouse click -> switch /dial useage?

[viper2097]

Simple thing, still so annoying...

 

As far as I have seen, the logic of interacting with switches, dials etc. in the cockpit has overall the same logic in ED planes (only except A-10C):

 

Mouse right click -> Switch fwd / up / right / away from me / turn clockwise

Mouse left click -> Switch aft / down / /left / to me / turn counter clockwise

Mouswheel down -> Pull things out (rotate CCW)

Mouswheel up -> Push things in (rotate CW)

 

In other modules (I can only speak for AJS-37, AV8B, M2K) this is most times a mess.

One switch acts as it should and the next acts in the opossite way.

No clear, 100% used system.

 

 

So simple question:

Do you think ED should force 3rd partie devs (and also themselvs) to use only one logic?

Edited February 28, 2019 by viper2097

[Py]

YES!

 

It's very annoying when this is inconsistent and it breaks the immersion when things don't act logically.

[BitMaster]

Not a bad idea !

 

Less...ooops, wrong way, SIGH...moments

[Void78]

:thumbup:

[grunf]

+1

[cichlidfan]

Consistency with regard to cockpit controls has been an issue for nine years now (and that was when the only two modules came from ED). I have little hope that it will ever get the attention that it deserves.

[viper2097]

Would have thought that more people would like to see a straight usage for switches...

[Zeagle]

+1

[Birko]

+1

[smallberries]

Yeah, this shouldn't be a big deal (as in it shouldn't be hard to implement).

[viper2097]

Just bought the Mig21, OMG, switch directions are there also sooo messed up...

 

It would be unbelieveable great if that mess would be cleaned up...

[falk1234]

+1

[Birko]

So LMB would be:

Left, down, CCW

 

RMB would be:

Right, up, CW

 

What about:

If a switch has two positions, LMB or RMB will both toggle it?

[smallberries]

Sorry if this sounds pedantic, but every switch has two positions :) I think if there was a standard adopted then you would have to click left to switch it left and right to switch it right.

 

Alternatively, I suppose every 2-position switch could be actuated with either button, and only 3-position switches would require specificity.

[viper2097]

Alternatively, I suppose every 2-position switch could be actuated with either button, and only 3-position switches would require specificity.

 

No, this should not be like that.

If it would be like you said, you can't move a switch "blind" cause you never know when it is in the left or right position.

Left click should only move left, right click only right, also on 2 position switches.

 

Especially in the Mirage, there are a lot of switches you can't see good (like radio power), so you need to operate them "blind"...

[Birko]

there are a lot of switches you can't see good (like radio power), so you need to operate them "blind"...

 

I see now, you have a good point

[WinterH]

This would be a pretty good quality of life improvement indeed.

[smallberries]

No, this should not be like that.

If it would be like you said, you can't move a switch "blind" cause you never know when it is in the left or right position.

Left click should only move left, right click only right, also on 2 position switches.

 

Especially in the Mirage, there are a lot of switches you can't see good (like radio power), so you need to operate them "blind"...

 

Oh, good point.

[Mule]

A universal system would be welcome

[viper2097]

Just watched the cold and dark start up of the Tomcat...

Seems like there is the next mess incoming :-/

 

Master Test Switch -> Right click to pull it out / push it in. Left click to dial it (CW? How to turn it CW?)

 

Why did they not made it like the wing unlock in the F-18? (Mouswheel to pull it out / push it in, left / right lcik for turning...)

 

I really hope that ED is taking some action on this things...

[Nealius]

I agree, though I would reverse the CW/CCW action of the scroll wheel. Scroll wheel forward would logically be CW, scroll wheel aft would logically be CCW.

[viper2097]

Wow, glad you've seen this.

I see it the same way, just made a mistake on the first post. Corrected it already. Thx!