Volator Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Compared to the other MiGs in this game the general "feel" of the MiG-19's FM appeals much more to me. I think RAZBAM has done a good job with it. 2 1./JG71 "Richthofen" - Seven Eleven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japo32 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 On 11/16/2021 at 5:29 PM, vasco12r said: Same here, the FM feels good except for that lack of inertia. Though I feel it mostly when banking the aircraft. Apply side stick to roll the aircraft, now center the stick and the aircraft will stop the roll immediately. Same! The way to describe it is as I setup an att autopilot mode in the F18. What I like from the Mig15 is the inertia it has, that in the 19 is missing. Don't know if the 15 or 19 way is more realisitic or not, but that is the way I feel it. I suppose a plane has to "slip" flying and motion don't have to stop suddently. In other aspects I cannot tell... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnvyC Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 (edited) Hi. I haven't seen it mentioned and the search function sucks, can I just ask where exactly did the FM come from? Official docs? Edited February 6, 2022 by EnvyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLTeo Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 I haven't flown the Farmer in a while, so today's change about the roll inertia made me hop in and test it really quickly. Is it just my impression, or does the aircraft feel heavier and less fly-by-wirey for lack of a better term? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiG21bisFishbedL Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Absolutely. It feels like a step in the right direction. Reformers hate him! This one weird trick found by a bush pilot will make gunfighter obsessed old farts angry at your multi-role carrier deck line up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japo32 Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Yes! I also like the change!! is more fun to fly. Hope that it can reach also same physics when taxing with brakes turns. A step in the right direction! Thanks a lot! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummingbird Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 (edited) The lack of inertia I felt a lot in pitch last I tested it, so I'm hoping they will be looking at that as well. Edited April 13, 2022 by Hummingbird 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aviator78 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 (edited) @OverStratos Due to a recent discussion in another module thread on pitch and G onset I felt the urge to say "Thank you" for the excellent characteristics of the MiG-19 in that regard. It's so fantastic to see how in the MiG-19 the elevator controls are adjusted to speed, giving you good control authority no matter if you going fast or slow, without the fear of instantly over-g'ing the aircraft and ripping off the wings. In the MiG-19 you actually have to pull hard at high speed to get to high Gs, whereas in at least two of EDs modules just a fifth of total elevator movement will let you break the aircraft, so instead of pulling hard like in the real jet, you need to apply increasingly less pressure on the stick to avoid catastrophic structural failure, while on landing you need to stir the stick like crazy to even get the tiniest control outputs. Not so with the MiG-19. Well done, Overstratos and Razbam! I am looking forward to your MiG-23! Edited January 4 by Aviator78 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarowa Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 On 1/3/2024 at 7:02 PM, Aviator78 said: @OverStratos Due to a recent discussion in another module thread on pitch and G onset I felt the urge to say "Thank you" for the excellent characteristics of the MiG-19 in that regard. It's so fantastic to see how in the MiG-19 the elevator controls are adjusted to speed, giving you good control authority no matter if you going fast or slow, without the fear of instantly over-g'ing the aircraft and ripping off the wings. In the MiG-19 you actually have to pull hard at high speed to get to high Gs, whereas in at least two of EDs modules just a fifth of total elevator movement will let you break the aircraft, so instead of pulling hard like in the real jet, you need to apply increasingly less pressure on the stick to avoid catastrophic structural failure, while on landing you need to stir the stick like crazy to even get the tiniest control outputs. Not so with the MiG-19. Well done, Overstratos and Razbam! I am looking forward to your MiG-23! That's probably due to the ARU. It's a mechanical pseudo-FBW. It reduces stick pitch sensitivity as speed increases. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiGCap1 Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 Why changed @CptSmiley the title of this thread and removed the first post? What was the content? 1 http://www.instagram.com/spetersen13/?fbclid=IwAR07OCbRZX6qISe0fS8iUQfzts_iazbm7UEsxiKNnqviADGTaRWJJN7iAws http://www.facebook.com/spetersen13/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volator Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 7 minutes ago, MiGCap1 said: Why changed @CptSmiley the title of this thread and removed the first post? What was the content? I think it was called "On the various FM issues of the MiG-19" or similar... 1./JG71 "Richthofen" - Seven Eleven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiGCap1 Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 I thought so ... But when I read the thread it looks like most issues are already solved and the users are happy with the FM of the FARMER (I am, at least). Don't understand the move from @CptSmiley. Must have something to do with the current situation between RAZBAM and ED. 3 http://www.instagram.com/spetersen13/?fbclid=IwAR07OCbRZX6qISe0fS8iUQfzts_iazbm7UEsxiKNnqviADGTaRWJJN7iAws http://www.facebook.com/spetersen13/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger-II Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 (edited) I think he went and deleted all his posts, and this being one, it got deleted as well. This thread was started in 2016, so it's actually somewhat out of date anyway. I wanted to get the MiG-19, but with the current situation, I'm not sure whether to or not. My biggest concern is whether it can be updated to continue to work with later versions of DCS. Edited April 9 by Tiger-II 2 Motorola 68000 | 1 Mb | Debug port "When performing a forced landing, fly the aircraft as far into the crash as possible." - Bob Hoover. The JF-17 is not better than the F-16; it's different. It's how you fly that counts. "An average aircraft with a skilled pilot, will out-perform the superior aircraft with an average pilot." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiGCap1 Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 (edited) 5 hours ago, Tiger-II said: I think he went and deleted all his posts, and this being one, it got deleted as well. This thread was started in 2016, so it's actually somewhat out of date anyway. I wanted to get the MiG-19, but with the current situation, I'm not sure whether to or not. My biggest concern is whether it can be updated to continue to work with later versions of DCS. I hope it will. It is a very nice module. Edited April 9 by MiGCap1 2 http://www.instagram.com/spetersen13/?fbclid=IwAR07OCbRZX6qISe0fS8iUQfzts_iazbm7UEsxiKNnqviADGTaRWJJN7iAws http://www.facebook.com/spetersen13/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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