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I think I get what he's saying. Taxiing in real airplanes isn't nearly as smooth as it appears in DCS. Taxiways are bumpy and you definitely feel it in the plane. Modeling that would add a bit more to the immersion of the sim. Necessary, no. Nothing wrong with putting it on the wishlist, though.

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Oh, sorry. I misunderstood. Ground handling is modeled in some of the aircraft, right? Taxi turn to quickly and you can ground loop and/or strike a wing?

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Doesn't seem that much different to me than the other jets in the game. Doesn't feel on rails at all however now that I've seen that video maybe the suspension could be "loosened" up a little bit? (The tires are not the cause of the wobbling, the suspension is)

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Feels like something's missing here. If I'm not completely mistaken, the Viggen has all this modelled. So my guess is as usual: Early Access.

 

On the other hoof though, the Tomcat also shares something with the other modules HB made so far, which is that strange alternating left/right roll bumping at higher speeds when still on the ground which gradually builds up that much that the plane eventually loses a wing due to this. Had that already in the Tomcat and didn't like it.

 

Another feature shared across the modules is the constant need for a little bit of left rudder to stay on track when taxiing. And yes, I've double checked my rudder pedals thrice and didn't touch my rudder trim at all and having absolutely no wind on my testing maps. They all do it. MiG-21 (now M³), Viggen and F-14B. Not a biggie though.

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Another feature shared across the modules is the constant need for a little bit of left rudder to stay on track when taxiing. And yes, I've double checked my rudder pedals thrice and didn't touch my rudder trim at all and having absolutely no wind on my testing maps. They all do it. MiG-21 (now M³), Viggen and F-14B. Not a biggie though.

 

Im not having that last one, straight as an arrow for me when keeping her at taxiing speeds (NWS engaged).

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I think we need input from an actual F-14 pilot before we can comment whether this is unrealistic or not. Remember this is a carrier aircraft and as such will have a very differently setup suspension system for coping with carrier landing rather then being deployed from rough airfields etc.

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LOL. I think someone has had enough of something :).

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Anyway, to get back on the original "topic , here is a good video showing the Tomcat's suspension and ground "physics" in action.

 

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Great example Airhunter...shows that the HB Tomcat should be a little more "bouncy" on the ground.

 

Off topic, but the video also shows that the vapor effects could be improved/added to as well.

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Yes, that maybe too but it also depends on various external factors. As for the suspension the current tomcat is way too stiff (like a formula 1 car) and the suspension does not really react to tight turns, ordenance or fuel tanks being loaded or short brake applications. Something that can surely be improved in the future, however for me it's quite low priority right now.

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