mcnab Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 I always wondered about this. Is it like, who gets the first lock and launch authorisation wins the duel or there is more? Thanks in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.S Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 puuuhhh.....the answer will be book .. i guess [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotasso Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 In training they usualy have a pod on the wing wich relays your position, so do others, when you press the trigger your input is registered and seconds later a computer answer will be told to the pilot via radio if thats a kill. A lock wont do. In the old days with rear hest seeking missiles a stable lock would do, suauly at the simulated enemies 6 wich was hard already to obtain and presented a high probability of kill, besides they didnt have the tech for a simulated missile shot live with the real world action. [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic4448_29.gif[/sigpic] My PC specs below:Case: Corsair 400C PSU: SEASONIC SS-760XP2 760W Platinum CPU: AMD RYZEN 3900X (12C/24T) RAM: 32 GB 4266Mhz (two 2x8 kits) of trident Z RGB @3600Mhz CL 14 CR=1T MOBO: ASUS CROSSHAIR HERO VI AM4 GFX: GTX 1080Ti MSI Gaming X Cooler: NXZT Kraken X62 280mm AIO Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 1TB M.2+6GB WD 6Gb red HOTAS: Thrustmaster Warthog + CH pro pedals Monitor: Gigabyte AORUS AD27QD Freesync HDR400 1440P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnab Posted August 16, 2007 Author Share Posted August 16, 2007 In training they usualy have a pod on the wing wich relays your position, so do others, when you press the trigger your input is registered and seconds later a computer answer will be told to the pilot via radio if thats a kill. Seems to me a lot of unknowns are being tolerated by that type of calculation. A missile usually flies for about 15-20 seconds. What about evasive manouvers, chaffs? It seems to me, all of those stuff are not computed into the simulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TucksonSonny Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Seems to me a lot of unknowns are being tolerated by that type of calculation. A missile usually flies for about 15-20 seconds. What about evasive manouvers, chaffs? It seems to me, all of those stuff are not computed into the simulation. Bump (good question) I always wondered this too! I think you need a kill in the Missile No Escape Zone…(just a guess) DELL Intel® Core™ i7 Processor 940 2,93 GHz @3 GHz, 8 MB cache | 8.192 MB 1.067 MHz Tri Channel DDR3 | 512 MB ATI® Radeon™ 4850 | 500 GB 7200 rpm Serial ATA | Samsung SM 2693 HM 25.5 " | HOTAS Cougar Thrustmaster | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnab Posted August 17, 2007 Author Share Posted August 17, 2007 Yeah, I'd like to know this as well. There must be more to it, I'm sure. They wouldn't be spending so many $$$ just like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaelu Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Bump (good question) I always wondered this too! I think you need a kill in the Missile No Escape Zone…(just a guess) Seriously, such a "no escape zone" really exists? I mean, is a dumb projectile bearly flying, bearly "seeing", bearly thinking. In Lock On is very difficult to evade one but in real life, I think the studying and the training to evade such manace gets prime time. And I think chaffs and ECM and the tactics and so on are really doing their job. I think that zone should be called "if you are a sleeper you're dead zone". :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotasso Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 No, the missile PK is just computed in probability of hit based on launch parameters. Nothing fancy. [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic4448_29.gif[/sigpic] My PC specs below:Case: Corsair 400C PSU: SEASONIC SS-760XP2 760W Platinum CPU: AMD RYZEN 3900X (12C/24T) RAM: 32 GB 4266Mhz (two 2x8 kits) of trident Z RGB @3600Mhz CL 14 CR=1T MOBO: ASUS CROSSHAIR HERO VI AM4 GFX: GTX 1080Ti MSI Gaming X Cooler: NXZT Kraken X62 280mm AIO Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 1TB M.2+6GB WD 6Gb red HOTAS: Thrustmaster Warthog + CH pro pedals Monitor: Gigabyte AORUS AD27QD Freesync HDR400 1440P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Seriously, such a "no escape zone" really exists? I mean, is a dumb projectile bearly flying, bearly "seeing", bearly thinking. In Lock On is very difficult to evade one but in real life, I think the studying and the training to evade such manace gets prime time. And I think chaffs and ECM and the tactics and so on are really doing their job. Actually it is much more difficult to evade in real life, according to certain people. In LOMAC missiles are very easy to evade when you see'em coming. I think that zone should be called "if you are a sleeper you're dead zone". :D They renamed it to 'Range Turn and Run' instead of 'No Escape Zone', because 'no escape' really meant 'if you do this and that, you can't out-run the missile', not 'there's no way in hell you're dodging that missile' ... but when you're sitting inside the Rtr, you're in a lot of trouble. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogue_blade Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Actually it is much more difficult to evade in real life, according to certain people. In LOMAC missiles are very easy to evade when you see'em coming. They renamed it to 'Range Turn and Run' instead of 'No Escape Zone', because 'no escape' really meant 'if you do this and that, you can't out-run the missile', not 'there's no way in hell you're dodging that missile' ... but when you're sitting inside the Rtr, you're in a lot of trouble. yea thats more what i was thinking. on a side note. why do all sams in lockon have no smoke trails while all sams in falcon have huge thick smoke trails. id think the latter is more real and makes evading easier and more fun [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaunyeh Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 For the smoke.. i think this is a good point for lomac that seem to be dated previous falcon era, nowadays, there´s a lot of smokeless propelents. And i think SAM wouldn´t looks like a space shuttle going up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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