VNAO T-45 Goshawk

[Raffi75]

@Rudel_chw Thanks for confirming my suspicions. I know I won't be able to use modules or mods released for a higher version. Like you, I'm prepared for this and it doesn't bother me. I have a similar situation with ETS2.

@Hiob As I mentioned above, it's similar in ETS2. You can play earlier versions of the game with your favorite mods without using newer add-ons.

Edited Monday at 09:15 PM by Raffi75

[Arecibo]

Just installed this and it looks great! Does anybody have a PDF of the NATOPS so I can start this thing up? Google has loads of false links.

Edited 4 hours ago by Arecibo

[BIGNEWY]

Hi, 

please do not share NATOPS links here 

check out our 1.16  rule at the top of the forum

thank you 

[Rudel_chw]

19 minutes ago, Arecibo said:

Just installed this and it looks great! Does anybody have a PDF of the NATOPS so I can start this thing up? Google has loads of false links.

 

Here is a video of its cold start, following the Natops checklists as much as possible:

It corresponds to the upcoming version 1.2, but should apply to older releases (minus the radio contact with the carrier).

[Arecibo]

45 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

Hi, 

please do not share NATOPS links here 

check out our 1.16  rule at the top of the forum

thank you 

Oh, my bad. If you're not a military aviator, it's easy to forget these things are classified!

33 minutes ago, Rudel_chw said:

Here is a video of its cold start, following the Natops checklists as much as possible

That's great, thanks Rudel

Edited 3 hours ago by Arecibo

[MAXsenna]

1 hour ago, Arecibo said:

Oh, my bad. If you're not a military aviator, it's easy to forget these things are classified!

Rule of thumb. Posting documents released pre 80s good, post 80s bad. Privately share documents, always good.

Cheers! 

[Freakmeister51]

On 9/14/2025 at 9:40 PM, Rudel_chw said:

 

fully agree, its just that the free use of terms like "stolen" rubs me the wrong way .. 

I fully agree on both sides of this topic. The only issue I have with the car bit is that, even though a company goes under and your particular car part cannot be procured anymore, you can still drive your car until it needs a part that would render it unusable. In the case of the T1 Hawk, it was simply taken away from those of us that purchased it, me being one of them. I believe ED tried to buy the rights to it from VEAO but they wouldn’t sell. The reason behind this, I guess we will never know. Yes, Rudel, stolen is a strong word that is probably not right in this context but many feel aggrieved that they cannot fly it anymore. I have tried downloading the earlier version of DCS to re-enter the T1 but I have had no success.

thanks for this topic. Interesting to get a few peoples views on it.

[Rudel_chw]

24 minutes ago, Freakmeister51 said:

In the case of the T1 Hawk, it was simply taken away from those of us that purchased it, me being one of them.

 

Actually, it was not taken away, I still have it registered within my licenses:

 

 

And it is still available on DCS as an AI aircraft:

 

 

However, if I actually wanted to fly it myself, I would need a DCS version 2.5.3 stored on my PC (which I don't have). 

 

It wasn't a favorite aircraft of mine, so I didn't keep such a version on my disk, but for the three remaining Razbam modules that I own, I will be storing a copy of their last compatible DCS version, as I still intend to keep flying the Mirage 2000 and harrier at least (and just maybe, the MiG-19 too)