philstyle Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Put out of business? Do you know what a business Joint Venture is? :doh: ED and Ugra do not have a Join Venture. Ugra is a seperate trading entitiy who had/have a service delivery contract with ED to delvier a map, which ED on-sells to its customers. Customers who bought the Normandy map signed T&Cs with ED alone, and not Ugra Media or any other hypothetical "joint venture" entitiy. We do not know the details of the contract arrangement that ED has/ had with Ugra. On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/philstylenz Storm of War WW2 server website: https://stormofwar.net/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Dragon Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 (edited) ED and Ugra do not have a Join Venture. Ugra is a seperate trading entitiy who had/have a service delivery contract with ED to delvier a map, which ED on-sells to its customers. Customers who bought the Normandy map signed T&Cs with ED alone, and not Ugra Media or any other hypothetical "joint venture" entitiy. We do not know the details of the contract arrangement that ED has/ had with Ugra. And Remember, Normandy Map was part of WW2 1944 (a Standalone product) KickStrarted make by RRG Studios 3rd Party (now disolved), and rescued by ED. Edited June 4, 2019 by Silver_Dragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunner Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 ... and Wags did say the new Free one will be one that can swap between modern and WWII at some point... "at some point" Until that, i thought anything only European/African WWII areas would fit, as the assets are missing for i.e. the Pacific. ...although the Elefant wouldn't fit there either What could that mean? A place where it wasnt deployed? Or a place where the army where it belonged to wasnt present at any time in the war? Would you throw a few more hints NineLine / Wags? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "There's nothing to be gained by second guessing yourself. You can't remake the past, so look ahead... or risk being left behind." Noli Timere Messorem "No matter how fast light travels, it finds the darkness has always been there first, and is waiting for it." Terry Pratchett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4eyes Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 A joint venture has only plausible if has 2 companies has interested on that. ED has your plans, 4 maps on develop (two for WW2, a "free" (ww2 / Modern) and one more "modern"), all WW2 baseline (Damage model, Dynamic Campaign, new functionality as testbed), aircraft, maps and Assets pack modules with a dedicated WW2 team and all work on DCS teams and module "modern" teams. Ugra media has your plans ("Modern" Syria map), and actually Ugra has none plans to work on WW2. The only "Joint Venture" by ED was with Belsimtek (old Partner), with work side to side with ED on projects and now fused with ED as a develop study (Working on Hornet and other modules). Ugra media has a 3rd party, as Heatblur, Razbam, Aviodev, etc, not a Partner and Ugra has not a dedicated company on DCS World (has own develops and projects outside DCS). Thank you! You just demonstrated how a business joint venture between all the above companies is not only plausible, but would be very beneficial to all. :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grodlund Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 I suppose an "Elephant" would not fit there, because it was a German tank - and this theatre was one in which the germans did not fight. So that means it would be a map in the pacific area. As much as this is my suspicion, it is also my hope. I long for a green map with turquoise seas, white beaches and palm trees. Green. Much green. Enough brown sand already :D "Your pumping days are over, Megatron!" -Optimus Prime "This calls for a very special blend of psychology and extreme violence" -Vyvian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donut Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Hmm, interesting clues! I suspect and hope for somewhere in the Pacific as well. Maybe we will finally find out at the FlightSim Expo this weekend. i5 7600K @4.8GHz | 1080 Ti | 32GB 3200MHz | SSD | DCS SETTINGS | "COCKPIT" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Dragon Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Thank you! You just demonstrated how a business joint venture between all the above companies is not only plausible, but would be very beneficial to all. :thumbup: I dont talk nothing of them, thanks to twist and misinterpretation my worlds. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71st_AH Rob Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 I suppose an "Elephant" would not fit there, because it was a German tank - and this theatre was one in which the germans did not fight. So that means it would be a map in the pacific area. As much as this is my suspicion, it is also my hope. I long for a green map with turquoise seas, white beaches and palm trees. Green. Much green. Enough brown sand already :D No, the Elefant was only deployed to Northern Italy and the Ost Front. That leaves the Western Front and North Africa, Sicily and southern Italy, the Middle East as well as the entire fight against the Japanese Empire as possible locations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donut Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 No, the Elefant was only deployed to Northern Italy and the Ost Front. That leaves the Western Front and North Africa, Sicily and southern Italy, the Middle East as well as the entire fight against the Japanese Empire as possible locations. Good detective work, those are all definite possibilities and if you really think about, the only possibilities given the clues. Personally though, I think it would be a poor choice to make another map with a lot of sand, unless it's sand on a beach... The Western Front could be possible and improve on and expand what Normandy is. However, I don't know what scenarios this could bring for modern aircraft. North Africa...too much sand. Southern Italy is too narrow in scope and I don't know what scenarios it could bring to modern aircraft unless it was connected to the Syria and Caucasus maps at some point. I still feel very strongly that somewhere in the Pacific makes the most sense. It is different from anything we have in DCS right now. It is very diverse and brings a lot of possible scenarios for both WWII and modern aircraft if done right. i5 7600K @4.8GHz | 1080 Ti | 32GB 3200MHz | SSD | DCS SETTINGS | "COCKPIT" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baco Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 The pacific would make no sense at all. They don´t even have one plane that fits the theater. maybe the Mustang.. maybe.... No IA, no ground troops, ships or whatever... Don´t get me wrong I would love a Pacific Map, any and all locations. But I just don´t see it happening.. Even if the Corsair should come maybe next year... there is no opposing force not even AI... So it has to be North Africa, or Italy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donut Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 The pacific would make no sense at all. They don´t even have one plane that fits the theater. maybe the Mustang.. maybe.... No IA, no ground troops, ships or whatever... Don´t get me wrong I would love a Pacific Map, any and all locations. But I just don´t see it happening.. Even if the Corsair should come maybe next year... there is no opposing force not even AI... So it has to be North Africa, or Italy. You bring up a good point. Although, I believe Italy is too populated to fulfill the "low overhead, high performance" clue. North Africa would work except that it is another desert map. Blah... It brings nothing new to DCS except a new location. I suppose with it being free though, it would offer a desert map for those that did not buy NTTR or the Persian Gulf. i5 7600K @4.8GHz | 1080 Ti | 32GB 3200MHz | SSD | DCS SETTINGS | "COCKPIT" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas9970 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 You bring up a good point. Although, I believe Italy is too populated to fulfill the "low overhead, high performance" clue. North Africa would work except that it is another desert map. Blah... It brings nothing new to DCS except a new location. I suppose with it being free though, it would offer a desert map for those that did not buy NTTR or the Persian Gulf. I can't imagine any desert being "the favourite place to fly in real life". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4eyes Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 When do we get our Free Map? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clorydric Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 I can't imagine any desert being "the favourite place to fly in real life". It all depends of your definition of "desert"... Antartica is the largest desert on earth. Most mountains ranges are "desert". Any mountains area would be pretty fun actually... Caucasus is already done, so we're left with : - Alps (too much cities) - Atlas (not really a modern conflict area) - Andes (not a WWII area) - Rockies/Colorado (already in NTTR ?,, not a WWII area) - Anatolia (Too close to Caucasus) - Himalaya and Altai are excluded being either too high or not close enough to the sea. And... - Ethiopian highlands : WWII area, close to the sea, located in Africa (current maps are Europe/America/Asia), a good bunch of mountains... Intel 9900KF @ 5.1GHz / RTX 2080S OC @ 1.93GHz / ASUS Prime Z390-A / 2x16Gb DDR4 @ 3333 CL16 / Corsair TX850M / Samsung NVME 970 EVO+ / TM warthog Thr. / VKB Gunfighter mkIII + MCG / MFG Crosswind mk3 / Valve Index Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baco Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Although, I believe Italy is too populated to fulfill the "low overhead, high performance" clue. North Africa would work except that it is another desert map. Blah... It brings nothing new to DCS except a new location. I suppose with it being free though, it would offer a desert map for those that did not buy NTTR or the Persian Gulf. Yes Italy, the main continent is very populated. Sicily, I don´t really know. I mean It is very populated but no huge At least not on the south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzU Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 It all depends of your definition of "desert"... Antartica is the largest desert on earth. Most mountains ranges are "desert". Any mountains area would be pretty fun actually... Caucasus is already done, so we're left with : - Alps (too much cities) - Atlas (not really a modern conflict area) - Andes (not a WWII area) - Rockies/Colorado (already in NTTR ?,, not a WWII area) - Anatolia (Too close to Caucasus) - Himalaya and Altai are excluded being either too high or not close enough to the sea. And... - Ethiopian highlands : WWII area, close to the sea, located in Africa (current maps are Europe/America/Asia), a good bunch of mountains... How can Colorado be in NTTR? Buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas9970 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 It looks like the carrier deck crew demonstration screenshots were taken on the free map. The hills in the background appear to be covered with grass and trees. They are a lot smoother than the hills on the Caucasus map and their structure is different. https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/b08/Aircraft-Carrier-Deck-Crew-Animations-02.jpg https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/03b/Aircraft-Carrier-Deck-Crew-Animations-03.jpg https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/c39/Aircraft-Carrier-Deck-Crew-Animations-04.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodenameSection Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 It looks like the carrier deck crew demonstration screenshots were taken on the free map. The hills in the background appear to be covered with grass and trees. They are a lot smoother than the hills on the Caucasus map and their structure is different. I doubt that's the new map, based on this newsletter ED only started shifting focus on the free map about two months ago so it's probably to early to start teasing it in-game. My guess would be that those shots were taken off the Mediterranean coast on Ugra's Syria map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas9970 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 (edited) I believe that their work on the free map begun in 2018 according to this article. Six months is a plenty of time to show something like an imported landscape or a few small detailed areas. I still can't find a matching landscape that could be in the Syria map. Edited June 15, 2019 by Tomas9970 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolds Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Has anyone guessed cypress yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71st_Mastiff Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 the upgrade to Normandy. " any failure you meet, is never a defeat; merely a set up for a greater come back, " W Forbes "Success is not final, failure is not fatal, it is the courage to continue that counts," Winston Churchill " He who never changes his mind, never changes anything," MSI z690MPG DDR4 || i914900k|| ddr4-64gb PC3200 || MSI RTX 4070Ti|Game1300w|Win10x64| |turtle beach elite pro 5.1|| ViRpiL,T50cm2|| MFG Crosswinds|| VT50CM-plus rotor Throttle || G10 RGB EVGA Keyboard/MouseLogitech || PiMax Crystal VR || 32 Samsung|| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvern Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Found this new object... Something to do with the new free map? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratos Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 What does it says? I don't understand anything in russian except Davai Davai! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71st_Mastiff Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 What does it says? unfortunately only the guys who made this board knows, as I ran that text through every known translator and nothing came up. it's probably fake writing. " any failure you meet, is never a defeat; merely a set up for a greater come back, " W Forbes "Success is not final, failure is not fatal, it is the courage to continue that counts," Winston Churchill " He who never changes his mind, never changes anything," MSI z690MPG DDR4 || i914900k|| ddr4-64gb PC3200 || MSI RTX 4070Ti|Game1300w|Win10x64| |turtle beach elite pro 5.1|| ViRpiL,T50cm2|| MFG Crosswinds|| VT50CM-plus rotor Throttle || G10 RGB EVGA Keyboard/MouseLogitech || PiMax Crystal VR || 32 Samsung|| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvern Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 What does it says? Some people translated it and said it roughly means: "Spies will get caught, anyone that gets caught loses their head." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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