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Figured I'd start a list of AI types that you'd like to see in DCS, and please tell us why you'd like it included, as sometimes the reason you want it might help make it happen!

 

 

Ok, I think this AI aircraft USED to be in DCS, but I think it's been gone since before V2.0, and I'd like to see it back:

 

McDonnell Douglas KC-10 Extender

 

 

Why?

 

Because it's big, it's seen in all the big air operations in the West. It's able to fuel by boom for the USAF, and by hose/basket drogue for everyone else, AT THE SAME TIME. Meaning missions that are multinational, or multi-service anyway. Want Hornets to escort a JSTAR's? Extender can fuel all of you!

 

Even if you are happy with the KC-135, the Extender brings double the fuel to transfer to your fighters. And sometimes you can drain those '135's, so the Extender may be of use to you for such missions. Is this a problem for most people? Probably not. But having the option of having this for fuel could be nice for some. In a recent video, one group sent up four KC-135 tankers, and drained them before the mission was done, where using Extenders could have offered double the fuel.

 

Another reason: it IS in use by not only the USAF for all American military, but also the Netherlands has two units, and civilian air tanker contractors like Global and Omega also operate one each, and they might be contracted to any number of countries.

 

Is this absolutely necessary? Well probably not, but it would be quite a sight to see at an airfield, and does offer a real benefit to those needing to refuel a dozen fast-movers for long ranges!

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Id love to have a set of AI aircraft to complement the cold war fighters we already have: mig-15, f-86, mig-19 and mig-21

 

For example, I’d like to have an official B-29/Tu-4, a Tu-16 and B-47, a couple of older helos like the Mi-4 and Sikorsky S-58, and a couple of older transports, like the C-54 and Il-14

 

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I wouldn’t mind the KC-10 as well. Lovely plane.

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Just some form of ECM aircraft: EF-111A, EA-6A/B, EA-18G, just anything!

 

 

PS: KC-10 would be nice too..... :D

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Hawk 100. Neat little CAS jet that would be fun for escort missions.

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Since a flyable module for this is a loooong ways off if never happening at all, I'd atleast like to see an AI model for the F/A-18E or F Super Hornet developed. It would certainly fit in well with more modern campaigns set in the 2000s while working in conjunction with players flying the Legacy Hornet. Another great AI model could be the EA-6B.

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Some more Cold War NATO ships.

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Hmm this is a difficult one, if I had to choose it would be more ships, especially if we could get ship variants particularly around say 1970s - 1990s

 

Why? Because this is the area DCS is lacking the most, especially with maps that have strong maritime potential (SoH, even the Caucasus, South Atlantic in the future)

 

US:

  • Spruance class DDG (especially if we could get variants)
  • Kidd class DDG
  • Belknap class CG
  • Knox class FFG (especially if we could get the 2 major variants - Phalanx equipped and RIM-7 equipped)
  • Austin class LPD
  • Anchorage/Whidbey Island class LSD
  • Cimmaron class AO
  • Henry J Kaiser AO

RU:

  • Kiev class Aviation Cruiser
  • Sovremenny class DDG
  • Udaloy I class DDG
  • Kashin class DDG
  • Kresta II class CG
  • Krivak I class FFG
  • Nanuchka I class missile corvette
  • Grisha III class ASW corvette
  • Boris-Chilkin class AOR

UK:

  • Invincible class CVS
  • HMS Hermes (refit)
  • Type 22 Frigate (Batch 2 or 3)
  • Type 23 Frigate (Early)
  • Type 42 Destroyer (Batch
  • Fearless class LPD (with variants - Seacat/Bofors 40mm + Phalanx/GAM-B01)
  • Round Table class LSL
  • Tide class AOR
  • Fort Rosalie class replenishment ship

 

Just to name a few, obviously ships of countries present in current theatres should also be considered.

 

Aside from that I'd quite like to see more MPAs - P-3C, Nimrod MR.2, Il-38 etc, again see above

 

Tankers and transports - particularly for each country - an op isn't just about flying CAP

 

Maybe some more maritime helicopters - again tie in with ships (those these are probably best suited to modules in the long run)

 

And more logistics/support ground vehicles across the board - again, adds logistic aspects.


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Moar Wide-Body Jets/Props P-l-e-a-s-e :angel::angel::angel:

 

 

DCS being combat orientet obviously ... but maybe it's possible to cheat it by using repainted planes that would be part of civilian traffic. I assume civ air traffic would be like visual-only ghosts, maybe ME could provide standard military transport/cargo paintjobs over those ones if they won't be just visual ghosts like road traffic, that way there would be more wide selection of practice targets or otherwise.


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Hmm this is a difficult one, if I had to choose it would be more ships, especially if we could get ship variants particularly around say 1970s - 1990s

 

US:

  • Spruance class DDG (especially if we could get variants)
  • Kidd class DDG
  • Belknap class CG
  • Knox class FFG (especially if we could get the 2 major variants - Phalanx equipped and RIM-7 equipped)
  • Austin class LPD
  • Anchorage/Whidbey Island class LSD
  • Cimmaron class AO
  • Henry J Kaiser AO

RU:

  • Kiev class Aviation Cruiser
  • Sovremenny class DDG
  • Udaloy I class DDG
  • Kashin class DDG
  • Kresta II class CG
  • Krivak I class FFG
  • Nanuchka I class missile corvette
  • Grisha III class ASW corvette
  • Boris-Chilkin class AOR

UK:

  • Invincible class CVS
  • HMS Hermes (refit)
  • Type 22 Frigate (Batch 2 or 3)
  • Type 23 Frigate (Early)
  • Type 42 Destroyer (Batch
  • Fearless class LPD (with variants - Seacat/Bofors 40mm + Phalanx/GAM-B01)
  • Round Table class LSL
  • Tide class AOR
  • Fort Rosalie class replenishment ship

 

Just to name a few, obviously ships of countries present in current theatres should also be considered.

 

Aside from that I'd quite like to see more MPAs - P-3C, Nimrod MR.2, Il-38 etc

 

Tankers and transports

 

Maybe some more maritime helicopters

 

And more logistics/support ground vehicles across the board.

 

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Moar Wide-Body Jets/Props P-l-e-a-s-e :angel::angel::angel:

 

 

DCS being combat orientet obviously ... but maybe it's possible to cheat it by using repainted planes that would be part of civilian traffic. I assume civ air traffic would be like visual-only ghosts, maybe ME could provide standard military transport/cargo paintjobs over those ones if they won't be just visual ghosts like road traffic, that way there would be more wide selection of practice targets or otherwise.

Would be halfway there if we could actually include neutral units in missions. Next we can use a repainted KC-135 for a bit of simulated civilian traffic.

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staying halfway between civil and military aviation ......

 

 

according to my opinion, important planes are missing, such as the AIR FORCE ONE, the president's plane. every nation to a presidential plane.

 

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also Italy and representative aircraft. state plane.

 

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Eurofighter Typhoon, besides more naval units

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A little of everything

 

all nations should have 1 inf soldier, 1 aa soldier and 1 at soldier.

 

 

Transport planes should be able to air drop supplys and soldiers.

 

A standard Redfor and bluefor diesel submarine so that smaller countries could use them rather than big submarines all though submarines in the game right now not really are a thing, but in future with real big dynamic campaign it would be interesting.

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Any Electronic warfare aircraft that could provide effective jamming, and or the Northrop Grumman E-8 Joint STARS that interacted with the F10 map to be included in the fog of war logic.

 

 

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I would like all current inventory for each country we have in DCS, together with their respective liveries.

Starting with countries that are most relevant for a given map. For example, Iranian and UAE assets for PG map. Together with their land and sea units preferably...

 

Sounds like a huge task, does it not?

 

Why?

 

To bring life to the maps, keeping accuracy and realism in mind.

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Any Electronic warfare aircraft that could provide effective jamming, and or the Northrop Grumman E-8 Joint STARS that interacted with the F10 map to be included in the fog of war logic.

 

Oh oh! You reminded me, I had this brewing in the back of my mind but waited for the right moment to mention it, the fog of war stuff being integrated with the F10 MAP.

 

A dynamic and realistic mode of the F10 map view where it's actually showing the realtime state of all the visibility of your allied units, similarly to like radar view, but from your own sensors and units that provide the visibility of the units on the map.

 

 

The only discrepancy would be if you see a target visually yourself but it's not on the map ... however that may be something used to, I think about a minimal radius of the own unit proximity, but nah, it's better incase they are very close but hidden in trees or buildings, making them revealed would neagate the purpose of camoflague.

 

 

You may not be able to see other weapon units sight necessairy until they do some datalink, and that would make the datalink and target sharing a thing then right? AWACS could make that map view visible to you without nay datalink makes more sense, not sure how much re ... but I'm guessing most people wouldn't want to ask AWACS for every single target, doesn't AWACS have like a "survey report" now that thing could be worked into the F10 View.

 

So if you fly out of the range of your allied units, you can't get their sigts on targets so those enemies would disappear from the map, .... ahhh gawd this is the gamechanger, it all ties into what I previously said in past threads about the radio signal simulaiton and ranges and stuff, this is as significant as the new damage model stuff, exactly what we need.

 

And the current F10 MAP view could still continue and have it's own improvements and an option "Use simplified F10 View" or something in the options.

This has to be separated because MP servers would need to be able to decide which one they allow or not, or both not.

 

Oh an what's more is that the new F10 Map View would even have like multiple levels of target visibility levels, the current constant 100% tracking would be in the most favorable conditions when perhaps multiple units(AI) have direct LOS with the target(s) including good radar/sensor data, then it would progressively move away to less accurate icons on the map based on the conditions, one unit may still see the target good but maybe there's some other .... lastly on the sensor only, the icons would appear like pings on a radar screen with the ghost icons fading out, that's be so cool right!

 

I'm just explaining it as an example to get the rough idea across, ofcourse for being realistically correct the actual behavior should be somewhat different.

 

Now that would be a godlike feature right there, exactly!!!!!!


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I would like all current inventory for each country we have in DCS, together with their respective liveries.

Starting with countries that are most relevant for a given map. For example, Iranian and UAE assets for PG map. Together with their land and sea units preferably...

 

Sounds like a huge task, does it not?

 

Why?

 

To bring life to the maps, keeping accuracy and realism in mind.

 

 

 

 

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niru-ye_Havayi-ye_Artesh-e_Jomhuri-ye_Eslami-e_Iran

 

 

 

missing Su-24 missing Su-22

Chengdu J-7 is missing

missing Douglas F-4 Phantom II.

 

IRAN is not complete in DCS.

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Yes, correct OOB of countries in sim. right now its ridiculous....

 

But it would be easier if every vehicle would be available to every country.... since most Warsaw Pact or ex USSR countries are armed wit Russian equipment and most NATO by US equipment...

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Definitely some more 60’s and 70’s assets, Tu-16 immediately springs to mind along with the An-12, Su-15 on the Russian side and B-57, C-123 and Hawker Hunter on the allies side

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