MiG-31 R-3 IR ....45NM of range and 4.5 Mach of speed ?????

[Hunter Joker]

Hi, yesterday during a mission with my squadron we was shot down by a MiG-31 with an IR R-3 missile from about 45NM of range...and with a starting speed of mach 4.5

Two launches...from about 48 and 45 nm, all with a starting speed over 4 mach...

How could this be possible?

3 times the reange of a R-27 ET and at least 200% the speed....unbeliveable.

It's not the first time that this happen so I decide to report here.

Attached there's the Tacview file, the first launch is about at 1h from the start...the second follow.

Tacview-20190522-220828-DCS-=MDS=_Standard_Mix_AA-AG_v0.4.7.Caucasus.zip.rar

[cosmicdoubloon]

Nothing unusual there, the R-33 is roughly equivalent to the AIM-54 in terms of range. That looked like a pretty typical R-33 engagement to me, what's the issue you think you're having?

[Furia]

I cannot see the tacview from my Ipad but he is talking about an IR R-3 (similar to a Sidewinder) and not of an R-33.

If it was an R-3 then the behaviour is strange

[cosmicdoubloon]

I looked at the tacview, its 100% the R-33 that's being fired. The only other missile fired was an R-40R but that was at a much closer range. That is a normal engagement as far as I'm concerned

[Fri13]

I cannot see the tacview from my Ipad but he is talking about an IR R-3 (similar to a Sidewinder) and not of an R-33.

If it was an R-3 then the behaviour is strange

 

TacView says R-33.