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[REPORTED] 2.5.5 INS Not Aligning when on OPFOR


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UPDATED LAST POST WITH TRACK FILE!

 

 

So many things not even sure where to start. Lots of new stuff in the hornet which is cool but almost felt like I didn’t even know how to fly it anymore. Exciting. The new sounds are super cool really enjoy those, integration of the EW system onto the radar screen is cool all the new gadgets there. All of the way points and INS seem to be totally messed up but I’m sure that’s just a glitch. Hope there are some training things coming soon and excited. What’s with the sim 9 saying aamram?


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Well in the hornet campaign the fighter sweep mission has the waypoints / flight plan all messed up. Didn’t try another yet but still passed it. Jumped in the A10C and continuing to be blown away by the sound changes they made to that as well. Crazy different.

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Try doing a cold start in the Hornet. Maybe the INS will work if it's aligned during a cold start. Or maybe it's a similar issue as with the AWACS, for the Datalink and you need to start a new mission for it to work. ED said they're revamping the INS system for the Hornet, so I bet it's related to that.

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Well in the hornet campaign the fighter sweep mission has the waypoints / flight plan all messed up. Didn’t try another yet but still passed it. Jumped in the A10C and continuing to be blown away by the sound changes they made to that as well. Crazy different.

 

Can you be a bit more descriptive than "all messed up"?

 

And a track will help as well.

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Sorry, they just didn’t show. Any combo of auto/sequence/wpt/ manual waypoint selection just nothing on HSI or SA page(s). When WYPT OSB was selected (and boxed WYPT show as it should once selected) - it would go some extreme 1xxx + mile distance away and seem to flash INS alignment numbers on MFCD like during startup. Stock stuff, no mods. Will try a repair and see if it does it again.

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INS BUG

 

Right after the update, not only me several guys we get this error. Moreover the Map can't be activated (appeared)

 

 

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I see you're using auto-start. Have you tried with a normal cold & dark start? I'm updating, but my internet is slow. I'll also test it out when I can

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Look at your waypoint 0 coordinates, their at N0° and E0°.

 

The map is being displayed but probably no where near where your INS thinks you are. It thinks you are in the Sahara desert which is most likely why your waypoint is 3603NM away.

 

Could this be the beginning of a realistic INS ?


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I thought I had it too, I might still. But I just tried to reproduce or see if I could find some pattern.

Usually, up until now, as soon as it would display 0.5 OK, I would switch it to Nav. Did that earlier tonight too, and I wouldnt get a map and it wouldnt know where it was. Waypoints were 4000+ miles away.

Then now I just did it again, and when it hit 0.5 OK, I left it and after 1½ minute or so, the map would appear, and all waypoints were correct, and the INS knew where it was again.

 

So yea, I guess some more steps have to be taken into account now. Havent read up on it in NATOPS or manual. I might tomorrow. Now its night night :).

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I thought I had it too, I might still. But I just tried to reproduce or see if I could find some pattern.

Usually, up until now, as soon as it would display 0.5 OK, I would switch it to Nav. Did that earlier tonight too, and I wouldnt get a map and it wouldnt know where it was. Waypoints were 4000+ miles away.

Then now I just did it again, and when it hit 0.5 OK, I left it and after 1½ minute or so, the map would appear, and all waypoints were correct, and the INS knew where it was again.

 

So yea, I guess some more steps have to be taken into account now. Havent read up on it in NATOPS or manual. I might tomorrow. Now its night night :).

 

 

 

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Works for me too.

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I tried a cold start and the INS works fine if you let it align a little longer after it says 0.5 OK. After an extra 30 seconds (not sure, I didn't time it) it'll show the map and your coordinates.

As far as I can tell, the countdown happens faster than normal, something I suspected for a while now.

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Its (not technically) messed up, it is displaying in Degree Decimal Minutes (DDM) by default now. If you want it to display in Degree Minutes Seconds (DMS) like the last version you need to change it in the HSI settings...

 

HSI > Data > A/C, then on the bottom right "LAT LN SEC/DEG" this will change the coordinates from DDM to DMS, example:

 

N 43° 35.9873

E 39° 29.1238

 

to

 

N 43° 35' 59"

E 39° 29' 07"

 

If you select HSI > Data, on the bottom left "PRECISE" will give you decimal seconds for precision waypoints.

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Dropped and air-start F18 in editor with one waypoint. Waypont was showing in-game over 4000 miles away.
Strange, I haven't had that

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[REPORTED] 2.5.5 INS Not Aligning when on OPFOR

 

Eagle Dynamics/FA 18 Development Team:

 

While there have been some changes to the INS, the hornet will still correctly align when flying on for the "nato/blufor" coalitions on both Caucasus and PG map. However, when flying for OPFOR (Russian hornet, USAF aggressors hornet, etc.) and performing a cold start, the hornet completely refuses to appropriately align.

 

Using the normal alignment procedure (start up, switch to ground, wait for timer to countdown, switch to NAV, wait for HSI to display appropriate alignment) does not result in appropriate alignment of "OPFOR" hornets at any point in time. The HSI will continuously display all zeros for northing and easting, and waypoint 0 will always remain thousands of miles away. The heading tape will still function normally, but that is all.

 

This results in being unable to effectively navigate using onboard INS/HSI. The HSI map is not available obviously, and entering waypoints has been rendered useless. The F10 map has to be used as a means of obtaining range and bearing to targets (on servers that allow the F10 views). In addition, the datalink/SA becomes completely non-functional. The range displayed on the SA page is so far off from your actual location that absolutely no HAFUs will appear on the screen.

 

I have tested this on both public servers (Buddyspike and Growling Sidewinder) as well as user ran servers during a scrim with some friends. Any time a hornet spawned for cold start on OPFOR (for example: a Russian hornet at Beslan or Nalchik; or a USAF aggressors hornet at Bandar-Abbas) proper alignment could not be completed. I have not tested this issue offline, only in a multiplayer setting.

 

The effects of this could have severe consequences on upcoming SATAL matches for pilots that wish to fly the hornet as their SA would be severely compromised.

 

Thanks for listening,

 

Viper 9


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I completely agreed, I investigated that problem using several coalitions, and only the red one presents this problem. The complicated thing is just for SATAL, since the RED coalition does not have information of the enemies or of the allies in the SA of the MPCD

 

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I am also having the same issue, here's a trk file, I'll try to find other servers where the hornet is attached to "opfor factions" in game as that seems to be the problem. Welp I'll try and figure out a way to get the file size down :(


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