Kresomatic Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Fixed distance indication for gun in radar mode (distance must be equal or less than 2000m for indication) Is this for air to air or ground? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiromachi Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 I think it should be both. Just make sure you have proper combination of the settings on the gunsight. AMD Ryzen 5900X @ 4.95 Ghz / Asus Crosshair VII X470 / 32 GB DDR4 3600 Mhz Cl16 / Radeon 6800XT / Samsung 960 EVO M.2 SSD / Creative SoundBlaster AE-9 / HP Reverb G2 / VIRPIL T-50CM / Thrustmaster TPR Pendular Rudder Pedals / Audio Technica ATH-MSR7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Кош Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Just tried radar ranging on a friendly formation MiG. Range scale indeed works. Piper still does not scale 2000-300m, piper still does not account bullet drop. When? ППС АВТ 100 60 36 Ф < | > ! ПД К i5-10600k/32GB 3600/SSD NVME/4070ti/2560x1440'32/VPC T-50 VPC T-50CM3 throttle Saitek combat rudder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiromachi Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 It should scale 2000 - 300 m, it did when I tested it couple weeks ago when package was assemble. Will check it. AMD Ryzen 5900X @ 4.95 Ghz / Asus Crosshair VII X470 / 32 GB DDR4 3600 Mhz Cl16 / Radeon 6800XT / Samsung 960 EVO M.2 SSD / Creative SoundBlaster AE-9 / HP Reverb G2 / VIRPIL T-50CM / Thrustmaster TPR Pendular Rudder Pedals / Audio Technica ATH-MSR7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Кош Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 It should scale 2000 - 300 m, it did when I tested it couple weeks ago when package was assemble. Will check it. Thanks, meanwhile I'll recheck if it would work in fixed beam. Anyway, expected experience with ASP-21 - accurately shoot down an unsuspecting target at 2000m. Same as with Sabre and now MiG-19. Question: why ballistic coefficient rotary jumps to default when the sight is not in manual? Its not actuated, isnt it? And how can we accurately employ our built-in GSh-23 if ballistic coefficient rotary is not on GSh position? ППС АВТ 100 60 36 Ф < | > ! ПД К i5-10600k/32GB 3600/SSD NVME/4070ti/2560x1440'32/VPC T-50 VPC T-50CM3 throttle Saitek combat rudder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiromachi Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 So, I just did some testing. Pipper did scale for me. I took An-26 and set 29.6 m Base as estimated wingspan, and pipper started changing at 1.2 - 1.3 km. I also could make accurate shots at 1.1 - 1.6 km for as long as I was flying in a stable motion. There is however certain mismatch, size of the pipper was not exactly meeting the size of the aircraft wingspan. I think pipper scaling still needs some adjustments, fear not, I will forward that. As for the MiG formation, I'm not entirely sure what you were expecting, MiG-21 wingspan is aprox. 7.15 m, which is below minimum size of the pipper (22 mili rad) at any range, so it will not change the size. Radar ranging also works only up to 500 m, below that its going to loose target as its just too close. This gunsight is useful against larger aircraft like bombers, not small and fast moving fighters. Against those you are supposed to use Gyro-300 mode. Last but not least. Angles knob is not operational in Auto mode, it is "disconnected" from the sight as angles are introduced by DUAS-61-14 transmitter. Only in Manual mode it is operational. AMD Ryzen 5900X @ 4.95 Ghz / Asus Crosshair VII X470 / 32 GB DDR4 3600 Mhz Cl16 / Radeon 6800XT / Samsung 960 EVO M.2 SSD / Creative SoundBlaster AE-9 / HP Reverb G2 / VIRPIL T-50CM / Thrustmaster TPR Pendular Rudder Pedals / Audio Technica ATH-MSR7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Кош Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 So, I just did some testing. Pipper did scale for me. I took An-26 and set 29.6 m Base as estimated wingspan, and pipper started changing at 1.2 - 1.3 km. I also could make accurate shots at 1.1 - 1.6 km for as long as I was flying in a stable motion. There is however certain mismatch, size of the pipper was not exactly meeting the size of the aircraft wingspan. I think pipper scaling still needs some adjustments, fear not, I will forward that. As for the MiG formation, I'm not entirely sure what you were expecting, MiG-21 wingspan is aprox. 7.15 m, which is below minimum size of the pipper (22 mili rad) at any range, so it will not change the size. Radar ranging also works only up to 500 m, below that its going to loose target as its just too close. This gunsight is useful against larger aircraft like bombers, not small and fast moving fighters. Against those you are supposed to use Gyro-300 mode. Last but not least. Angles knob is not operational in Auto mode, it is "disconnected" from the sight as angles are introduced by DUAS-61-14 transmitter. Only in Manual mode it is operational. Hmm, I'll try bigger span and targets then. Anyway, real manual proposes using it against a Mirage-III :book::joystick::) ППС АВТ 100 60 36 Ф < | > ! ПД К i5-10600k/32GB 3600/SSD NVME/4070ti/2560x1440'32/VPC T-50 VPC T-50CM3 throttle Saitek combat rudder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiromachi Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Yes, I have 5-6 real manuals including asp manual. For fast or maneuvering targets Gyro-300 mode is recommended. AMD Ryzen 5900X @ 4.95 Ghz / Asus Crosshair VII X470 / 32 GB DDR4 3600 Mhz Cl16 / Radeon 6800XT / Samsung 960 EVO M.2 SSD / Creative SoundBlaster AE-9 / HP Reverb G2 / VIRPIL T-50CM / Thrustmaster TPR Pendular Rudder Pedals / Audio Technica ATH-MSR7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Кош Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Yes, I have 5-6 real manuals including asp manual. For fast or maneuvering targets Gyro-300 mode is recommended. If the target is doing 3g+ - of course! ППС АВТ 100 60 36 Ф < | > ! ПД К i5-10600k/32GB 3600/SSD NVME/4070ti/2560x1440'32/VPC T-50 VPC T-50CM3 throttle Saitek combat rudder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kresomatic Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 Can someone explain me step by step how to setup gun in radar mode and in gyro-300 mode (no radar lock right?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streakeagle Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 (edited) I can't believe it... after years there is some sort of progress on the ASP gunsight ranging/pipper animation. I didn't try to verify its accuracy against the manual, I am just happy that there is progress. Please tell me they are going to finish the MiG-21bis to the level that it was originally promised: fully functional and bug free. Though the original promise was to achieve that level without any beta releases :P I want this module to be my 2nd most flown module with the F-4 being my most flown. In the absence of the F-4, I should be flying the MiG-21 more than any other DCS aircraft. But the MiG-21 has had so many things that made me unhappy while flying air combat while later aircraft releases have worked so much better, particularly the F-5E, though the F/A-18 and F-14B are simply amazing. Please turn the corner and make the MiG-21bis what it once was: the best module in DCS World across the board: graphically, systems modeling, flight modeling, etc. Edited June 12, 2019 by streakeagle 8 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiromachi Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Can someone explain me step by step how to setup gun in radar mode and in gyro-300 mode (no radar lock right?) To execute an attack on a manouvering target there is a special mode called Gyro-300 m, which basically creates a firing solution for 300 m range for gunsight. It is engaged simply by rotating TDC all the way back (or counter-clockwise, depending from which side you look at throttle handle). Of course it is no perfect, any shots taken at ranges closer or greater are prone to errors but this is optimal for firing at target from up close. AMD Ryzen 5900X @ 4.95 Ghz / Asus Crosshair VII X470 / 32 GB DDR4 3600 Mhz Cl16 / Radeon 6800XT / Samsung 960 EVO M.2 SSD / Creative SoundBlaster AE-9 / HP Reverb G2 / VIRPIL T-50CM / Thrustmaster TPR Pendular Rudder Pedals / Audio Technica ATH-MSR7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Кош Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Tried setting more than 15m span and it started working. Still it won't scale down further than around 1200m. ППС АВТ 100 60 36 Ф < | > ! ПД К i5-10600k/32GB 3600/SSD NVME/4070ti/2560x1440'32/VPC T-50 VPC T-50CM3 throttle Saitek combat rudder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Кош Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Yes, I have 5-6 real manuals including asp manual. For fast or maneuvering targets Gyro-300 mode is recommended. Is sharing ASP manual possible? ППС АВТ 100 60 36 Ф < | > ! ПД К i5-10600k/32GB 3600/SSD NVME/4070ti/2560x1440'32/VPC T-50 VPC T-50CM3 throttle Saitek combat rudder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiromachi Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 In its entirety ? No. First, because of forum rules, second because I do not know of legal status of the document and its publishing. 15 m of wingspan is still not much. With such a wingspan, pipper will adjust in ranges between 400 to 700 m. I'd say, you should take something with at least 40 m wingspan to really see the difference, as it will work properly at greater set of ranges - between 1800 m to 400 m. AMD Ryzen 5900X @ 4.95 Ghz / Asus Crosshair VII X470 / 32 GB DDR4 3600 Mhz Cl16 / Radeon 6800XT / Samsung 960 EVO M.2 SSD / Creative SoundBlaster AE-9 / HP Reverb G2 / VIRPIL T-50CM / Thrustmaster TPR Pendular Rudder Pedals / Audio Technica ATH-MSR7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kresomatic Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 In its entirety ? No. First, because of forum rules, second because I do not know of legal status of the document and its publishing. 15 m of wingspan is still not much. With such a wingspan, pipper will adjust in ranges between 400 to 700 m. I'd say, you should take something with at least 40 m wingspan to really see the difference, as it will work properly at greater set of ranges - between 1800 m to 400 m. will the pipper adjust automatically or do I have to rotate TDC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finger Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Tried setting more than 15m span and it started working. Still it won't scale down further than around 1200m. https://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=211980&stc=1&d=1560583790 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiromachi Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 will the pipper adjust automatically or do I have to rotate TDC? If you try to operate in Manual mode than you will have to introduce range manually by rotating TDC. If you operate in Auto mode with radar lock than it will adjust automatically. AMD Ryzen 5900X @ 4.95 Ghz / Asus Crosshair VII X470 / 32 GB DDR4 3600 Mhz Cl16 / Radeon 6800XT / Samsung 960 EVO M.2 SSD / Creative SoundBlaster AE-9 / HP Reverb G2 / VIRPIL T-50CM / Thrustmaster TPR Pendular Rudder Pedals / Audio Technica ATH-MSR7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Кош Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 https://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=211980&stc=1&d=1560583790 This is gold, saved. Damn I love Czech language. ППС АВТ 100 60 36 Ф < | > ! ПД К i5-10600k/32GB 3600/SSD NVME/4070ti/2560x1440'32/VPC T-50 VPC T-50CM3 throttle Saitek combat rudder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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