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Hey guys,

 

So, through much trial and error I've managed to finally get my 3900X to boot, though I'm not convinced my troubles are over yet. However, once I got a stable boot to Windows, I decided to take a break and do some benchmarking.

 

For those who weren't following in the other thread, I've plugged a 3900X into a Crosshair VI Hero mobo, but cannot get it to boot the vast majority of times - I get a 07 post code. It is likely BIOS issues. However, occasionally I can get it to boot - just once - by removing the CMOS battery. Once it does boot, it runs solid as I could ever ask, but I cannot reboot lest I get a 07 code. I've decided to use one of those fleeting opportunities to send you guys some benchmarks.

 

Old system:

Ryzen 1600X OC@4.0Ghz

RAM running at 3066mhz

 

New system:

Ryzen 3900X, no OC, no PBO, so far max boosting to 4.3ghz

RAM running at 2133

 

Common to all:

EVGA 1080ti FTW3

Crosshair VI Hero Bios 7201 (AGESA 1.0.0.2)

Corsair H110i 280mm cooler

32Gb GSkill TridentZ 3200C16

Samsung 960 Evo 512Gb

Oculus Rift S

 

OK, the good stuff:

 

Cinebench R15 (multi/single thread):

1600X: 1260 / 161

3900X: 3116(!) / 202(!)

 

Cinebench R20 (multi/single):

1600X: 2759 / 380 (I think, it didn't save!)

3900X: 6952 / 497

 

Firestrike:

1600X: Graphics: 29482 Physics: 18041

3900X: Graphics: 27505 Physics: 28348

 

Note the MASSIVE improvement in Physics score. I find the lower graphics score interesting, I believe my previous result may have been running with an OC on my card, so take that one with a grain of salt.

 

DCS (Finally!!)

 

Tbilisi Free flight TF51D

1600X: Locked at 40 with high settings, MSAA 4x and MSAA2x

3900X: Locked at 40 with MSAA 4x, up to 65/70 with MSAA2x

On low settings with the 3900X, locked at 80, no movement.

 

F/A-18C Free Flight Dubai

1600X: locked at 40 early on, into the 20s down in the city. Not much change with MSAA 2x

3900X: 80 early on, dipping just below 40 in the city.

On low settings with the 3900X, locked at 80, no movement.

 

So, apologies for being very unscientific, but this is the best I could do with one good boot and only a bit of time. So, my conclusions:

 

I am FINALLY able to fully utilize and saturate my GPU. Low settings before, I could never cap out at 80 - now I can easily hit 80FPS. Previously, I was CPU limited to 40ish, and would just heap on GPU heavy settings until the GPU came close to 100% - at those same settings, I still see 40ish FPS, but it's GPU limited now.

 

I should note that all of this was done with 0 tweaking, RAM only at 2133, no attempt to activate precision boost overdrive, nothing. I think there's still plenty more on tap for me.

 

The key conclusion is that I can now easily saturate an overclocked 1080ti. Yay!!

 

Now back to trying to get it to boot properly... More to follow if/when I ever manage it!


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Thanks so much for taking time out to do this! I can appreciate the frustrations of a new system build. On "Common to all" you may want to add the 1080 TI OC; as I read your post it was the most important piece of data to me since one must have a very high end GPU to test a CPU lest you simply see a GPU bottleneck and not the real CPU performance...

 

 

It sounds like you'll have a system that has a lot of future legs... Also, one thing people seem to forget that if there are other programs running in the background such as Voice Attack, TM, TIR, etc... that these can all be put on other cores so the multi-core superiority of the new Ryzen may not be fully understood for DCS.

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My 3900X has not arrived yet :cry:

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Case: Corsair 400C

PSU: SEASONIC SS-760XP2 760W Platinum

CPU: AMD RYZEN 3900X (12C/24T)

RAM: 32 GB 4266Mhz (two 2x8 kits) of trident Z RGB @3600Mhz CL 14 CR=1T

MOBO: ASUS CROSSHAIR HERO VI AM4

GFX: GTX 1080Ti MSI Gaming X

Cooler: NXZT Kraken X62 280mm AIO

Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 1TB M.2+6GB WD 6Gb red

HOTAS: Thrustmaster Warthog + CH pro pedals

Monitor: Gigabyte AORUS AD27QD Freesync HDR400 1440P

 

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Thanks so much for taking time out to do this! I can appreciate the frustrations of a new system build. On "Common to all" you may want to add the 1080 TI OC; as I read your post it was the most important piece of data to me since one must have a very high end GPU to test a CPU lest you simply see a GPU bottleneck and not the real CPU performance...

 

 

It sounds like you'll have a system that has a lot of future legs... Also, one thing people seem to forget that if there are other programs running in the background such as Voice Attack, TM, TIR, etc... that these can all be put on other cores so the multi-core superiority of the new Ryzen may not be fully understood for DCS.

 

Thanks! I’ve added the 1080ti.

 

My 3900X has not arrived yet :cry:

 

Sorry man! I hope yours works, as I think we have the same revision of board based on when we both bought it. I’m taking my whole system back to the store today, when I had it built I bought the extended warranty. I’ve started to see people getting to the RMA stage for the mobo over this issue. With my extended warranty, the store will replace the board on the spot if they can’t get it working either. It might mean I end up with a Crosshair VII hero instead...

 

So, this is in a VR environment, right ?

 

Yep, with Rift S.

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Well, got it working finally.

 

It took a beta of a beta BIOS (I guess more like an alpha BIOS), but she finally boots up every time. I can actually get my RAM up to the rated speeds and timings now, so the new IMC is much more friendly as well.

 

A brief session in DCS seems to confirm my earlier observations, instead of being CPU limited I am now GPU limited. I’ve actually reduced MSAA to x2, since I can now get close to 80fps.

 

The only problem now is it doesn’t seem to boost to rated or advertised frequencies. Running Cinebench single thread, I should see it boosting to 4.6ghz single core, but the best I’m seeing is 4.2-4.3. I’ve tweaked most of what I can in BIOS, turning on AutoOC and precision boost 2, but still no luck.

 

Hopefully more mature BIOS will help down the road.


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Boost speeds is borked on most if not all boards requiring workarounds (none that I know for this board). So yeah we need fixed BIOSes.

 

Glad to hear its working for you, as I have the same board. :) (BTW CPU is not here yet)

 

Also you might be able to set your RAM at 3600 CL16 and infinity at 1800 to sync CPU and RAM for best performance.

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RAM: 32 GB 4266Mhz (two 2x8 kits) of trident Z RGB @3600Mhz CL 14 CR=1T

MOBO: ASUS CROSSHAIR HERO VI AM4

GFX: GTX 1080Ti MSI Gaming X

Cooler: NXZT Kraken X62 280mm AIO

Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 1TB M.2+6GB WD 6Gb red

HOTAS: Thrustmaster Warthog + CH pro pedals

Monitor: Gigabyte AORUS AD27QD Freesync HDR400 1440P

 

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Too cool. I put a 3600 and Crucial Ballistic Elite 3600 ram in my C6H . Had to set the boot vDIMM to 1.35v to get it to cold boot. I'm seeing similar gains. The 1080ti is at 100% usage at all times in DCS now. This is on a Samsung+

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Tbh, if I'd buy today, I would 100% not get an Asus. Not that your Bios issues are Asus made, they all suffer from it somehow, but Asus went south, I mean way south...while their price tags went way up North.

I'd get a Taichi and give Asrock a chance for my X570, if I had one.

 

I hear with pleasure that performance is about where you guys expected it. It will only get better, with Bios' and hopefully Vulkan down the road. That's when cores really count.

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I thought Gigabyte boards are the best ones right now. Your opinions?


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My PC specs below:

Case: Corsair 400C

PSU: SEASONIC SS-760XP2 760W Platinum

CPU: AMD RYZEN 3900X (12C/24T)

RAM: 32 GB 4266Mhz (two 2x8 kits) of trident Z RGB @3600Mhz CL 14 CR=1T

MOBO: ASUS CROSSHAIR HERO VI AM4

GFX: GTX 1080Ti MSI Gaming X

Cooler: NXZT Kraken X62 280mm AIO

Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 1TB M.2+6GB WD 6Gb red

HOTAS: Thrustmaster Warthog + CH pro pedals

Monitor: Gigabyte AORUS AD27QD Freesync HDR400 1440P

 

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I thought Gigabyte boards are the best ones right now. Your opinions?

 

I have no idea how good they are. Asrock has a reputation for proper RAM support, that would be my deciding factor, along with a beefy VRM.

 

I watch Buildzoid with his Actual Hardcore Overclocking channel a lot and take the info I dont have 1st hand from there. I think that guy knows what he's talking about electronic components wise.

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To: Sandman

 

New system:

Ryzen 3900X, no OC, no PBO, so far max boosting to 4.3ghz

RAM running at 2133 ?

You have a mistake in the description, or it is not possible to set the memory over 3000MHz?

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I just got a X470 Taichi with a 3700X and a QVL RAM but I can't run it on XMP 3200CL14 so YMMV.

 

Let's hope new Bios' will improve things.

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To: Sandman

 

New system:

Ryzen 3900X, no OC, no PBO, so far max boosting to 4.3ghz

RAM running at 2133 ?

You have a mistake in the description, or it is not possible to set the memory over 3000MHz?

 

When I first published the benchmarks, I only had the ram up to 2133. It’s now up to 3200, but the observed difference isn’t massive. I haven’t quantified it by running benchmarks yet.

 

To: Sandman

Can you please do a benchmark according to settings and user file DackSter94 without VR mode thank you very much.

 

Thread : https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=244976&page=8

 

yes, please do it DCS benchmark on 3900x without VR set. Thanks.

 

Sorry guys, off on family vacation for the week. I’ll try and do it when I get home, but you can be assured that 1080p non-VR will likely be triple digit frames with this system.

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OK guys, as requested, here it is:

 

-Using the attached track file (free flight over Tbilisi),

-all non-VR benchmarks at 1080p (sorry, I don't have a 1440p monitor like Dackster, so I cannot duplicate his settings).

-FPS measured with FRAPS.

-Computer specs in sig, 1080ti slightly overclocked.

-3900X is set to game mode in Ryzen master (disables one of the CCX for higher single core boost).

 

Low preset: Min: 1 Max: 189 Avg: 177 (I don't know where the 1 min comes from...)

Med preset: Min: 1 Max: 200 Avg: 179

High preset: Min: 88 Max: 188 Avg: 126 (High preset, plus 4 x MSAA, 16 x AF, all sliders maxed)

Rift S, VR preset: Min: 0 Max: 81 Avg: 79

Rift S, High preset (as above): Min: 1 Max: 81 Avg: 45 (ASW was off, but it still seems to like to hang around 40 or 80, though occasionally it will hit FPS between 80 and 40)

 

So, at 1080p low/medium settings (where we are CPU limited), frames are high enough for even the highest refresh rate monitors, if that's your thing.

 

If eye candy is your thing, you'll be GPU limited, as you can see the numbers going down due to GPU maxing out at higher settings.

 

In short, this CPU will not hold your GPU back at all. Indeed, you may even be better off saving a few hundred and getting a 3800X or 3700X and putting the rest into your GPU, as I don't think the performance of those chips will be far behind this one.

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:thumbup:

 

exactly what I expected.

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:joystick:If I was you, I'd watch some of Buildzoid's YT videos, his channel is called Actual hardware Overclocking, about Ryzen memory overclocking. There are pitfalls along the road and he explains it really in a fashion that you get the idea.

 

If you can lower the timings while staying on 3200 you can really pimp the fps.

 

 

I was stuck at 3000MHzCL16 with my 3600-CL16 XMP kit. After a dozen videos of his I now run mine at 3200-CL14-14-14-34 and am finally happy and call it a day, 18 monthts after putting this damn rig together my RAM is somehow back where I want it, SNAPPY. I run them at 1.40v and pass all my testings. The payoff is more bandwidth but foremost a lot less latency, now 48ns, before it was 10ns more, just shy off 60ns....which is bad for an Intel system.

 

Yours should be able to settle in the high 60s, like 66-69ns if your RAM kit allows it.

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OK guys, as requested, here it is:

 

-Using the attached track file (free flight over Tbilisi),

-all non-VR benchmarks at 1080p (sorry, I don't have a 1440p monitor like Dackster, so I cannot duplicate his settings).

-FPS measured with FRAPS.

-Computer specs in sig, 1080ti slightly overclocked.

-3900X is set to game mode in Ryzen master (disables one of the CCX for higher single core boost).

 

Low preset: Min: 1 Max: 189 Avg: 177 (I don't know where the 1 min comes from...)

Med preset: Min: 1 Max: 200 Avg: 179

High preset: Min: 88 Max: 188 Avg: 126 (High preset, plus 4 x MSAA, 16 x AF, all sliders maxed)

Rift S, VR preset: Min: 0 Max: 81 Avg: 79

Rift S, High preset (as above): Min: 1 Max: 81 Avg: 45 (ASW was off, but it still seems to like to hang around 40 or 80, though occasionally it will hit FPS between 80 and 40)

 

So, at 1080p low/medium settings (where we are CPU limited), frames are high enough for even the highest refresh rate monitors, if that's your thing.

 

If eye candy is your thing, you'll be GPU limited, as you can see the numbers going down due to GPU maxing out at higher settings.

 

In short, this CPU will not hold your GPU back at all. Indeed, you may even be better off saving a few hundred and getting a 3800X or 3700X and putting the rest into your GPU, as I don't think the performance of those chips will be far behind this one.

Hi,

another benchmark test available thanks.

Please try the test without the game mode.

It's better to benchmark using the Afterburner, which shows 0.1% of the low framerate.

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:joystick:If I was you, I'd watch some of Buildzoid's YT videos, his channel is called Actual hardware Overclocking, about Ryzen memory overclocking. There are pitfalls along the road and he explains it really in a fashion that you get the idea.

 

If you can lower the timings while staying on 3200 you can really pimp the fps.

 

 

I was stuck at 3000MHzCL16 with my 3600-CL16 XMP kit. After a dozen videos of his I now run mine at 3200-CL14-14-14-34 and am finally happy and call it a day, 18 monthts after putting this damn rig together my RAM is somehow back where I want it, SNAPPY. I run them at 1.40v and pass all my testings. The payoff is more bandwidth but foremost a lot less latency, now 48ns, before it was 10ns more, just shy off 60ns....which is bad for an Intel system.

 

Yours should be able to settle in the high 60s, like 66-69ns if your RAM kit allows it.

 

Thanks, I’ll give it a look!

 

I really lost the silicon lottery on this RAM. With first gen Ryzen, I was stuck at 2933, and eventually got it up to 3066 on later BIOS. I’ve had no problem with 3200C16 on my 3900X, though it does occasionally fail to POST. I tried going higher, but any higher than 3200 immediately fails to POST. maybe with more tweaking, but I think it’s already near max.

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Setting the ram could be a limit of the chipset x370 but I'm not an expert on Ryzen cpu.

When I do the benchmark on low settings on my old CPU i7 4790k these results with the same video card.

 

Frames: 13342 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 222.367 - Min: 192 - Max: 250

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Setting the ram could be a limit of the chipset x370 but I'm not an expert on Ryzen cpu.

When I do the benchmark on low settings on my old CPU i7 4790k these results with the same video card.

 

Frames: 13342 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 222.367 - Min: 192 - Max: 250

 

Those numbers seem freakishly high for an older and non-OC processor. Was that running the track I posted? Was the viewpoint on the track looking straight ahead the whole time?

 

It should also be noted that BIOS for 3000 series is still very immature. My chip is only boosting to 4.2-4.3ghz right now, 4.4 is achievable in game mode. It should boost at least to 4.6, up to 4.8 with good cooling and power delivery.

 

I think there will be more performance to be had as BIOS improves.

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The test is according to your instructions, I was surprised too.

Perform the benchmark according to the DackSter94.

Won't mind a lower resolution.

 

benchmark.trk https://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=214130&d=1563798700

Thread : https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=244976&page=8

 

Game settings:

Resolution: 2560x1440

Everything on minimum or off if possible, except the following:

Textures – High, Terrain Textures – High, Visib. range - high,

Res. Of cockpit Displays: 1024EF, Preload raidus: 60500,

Anisotropic filtering: 16x,[x] Full Screen, [x] Scale GUI

 

I start playing the track by pressing pause and about half second later I press the button to record benchmark data with MSI afterburner for 3m:16s.

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