Demongornot Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 I was browsing to find ILS related stuff about the F-16 and I found this : https://www.quora.com/What-do-all-of-the-controls-in-an-F16-fighter-jets-cockpit-do A guy posted a long and detailed description of the F-16C block 50 cockpit, well I don't think there is any sencible informations as the DCS manual will probably be more detailled, but I hope I won't have a wild encounter with the rule 1.16. So for those who haven't flown on that other F-16 sim that shall not be named here and don't want to read through the flight manual (which I guess isn't really reader friendly as it is more to contain data and information than teaching something) it might be interesting ! CPU : I7 6700k, MB : MSI Z170A GAMING M3, GC : EVGA GTX 1080ti SC2 GAMING iCX, RAM : DDR4 HyperX Fury 4 x 8 Go 2666 MHz CAS 15, STORAGE : Windows 10 on SSD, games on HDDs. Hardware used for DCS : Pro, Saitek pro flight rudder, Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog, Oculus Rift. Own : A-10C, Black Shark (BS1 to BS2), P-51D, FC3, UH-1H, Combined Arms, Mi-8MTV2, AV-8B, M-2000C, F/A-18C, Hawk T.1A Want : F-14 Tomcat, Yak-52, AJS-37, Spitfire LF Mk. IX, F-5E, MiG-21Bis, F-86F, MAC, F-16C, F-15E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvsgas Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 (edited) In relation to the information on the article Engine F-16C is powered by 5 engine not only the mention F110-GE-100. So block 25 started with F100-PW-200 and later change to the F100-PW-220 ( or updated 200, called 220E) Block 30 first to use F110-GE-100 Block 32 F100-PW-220 Block 40 F110-GE-100 block 42 F100-PW-220/220E and some units use F100-PW-229 (two units in the ANG) Block 50 F110-GE-129 Block 52 F100-PW-229 And yes, they are all F-16C The computers mention for the engine are wrong. The PW-220/220E and the 229 engine uses Digital Electronic Engine Control (DEEC) and what he calls SEC is the Main Fuel Control (MFC). The GE-100 uses Digital Engine Control (DEC) and the Main Engine Control (MEC). The PW -200 had the Electronic Engine Control (EEC) and the Unified Fuel Control (UFC) The Jet Fuel Starter (JFS) is not started by compress air. I stop reading after this, to much wrong information, not worth the time. Edited July 22, 2019 by mvsgas To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvsgas Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 watch your links Vampire, rule 1.16. also those manuals do not apply to DCS version. To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VampireNZ Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 (edited) watch your links Vampire, rule 1.16. also those manuals do not apply to DCS version. Man I wish there was somewhere I could put down a $100 bet that someone would jump on a post that is just trying to help within 2 minutes of posting it saying "... that's not the exact aircraft in DCS". Really? - wow you mean the Hellanic Air Force isn't the United States Air Force, Greece isn't America? - crikey... Also apparently linking freely searchable on google links here is against the rules - link changed.... Looks like those manuals are good enough for the BMS users to refer to, I am sure DCS pilots can manage to identify the edit - differences! Edited July 22, 2019 by VampireNZ Asus Maximus VIII Hero Alpha| i7-6700K @ 4.60GHz | nVidia GTX 1080ti Strix OC 11GB @ 2075MHz| 16GB G.Skill Trident Z RGB 3200Mhz DDR4 CL14 | Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2 SSD | Corsair Force LE 480GB SSD | Windows 10 64-Bit | TM Warthog with FSSB R3 Lighting Base | VKB Gunfighter Pro + MCG | TM MFD's | Oculus Rift S | Jetseat FSE [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvsgas Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Not only the country of origin is different. It has a different fuel system, different weapons capabilities, different software, different cockpit panels, different cockpit panel location, etc. To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VampireNZ Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Not only the country of origin is different. It has a different fuel system, different weapons capabilities, different software, different cockpit panels, different cockpit panel location, etc. So don't read it - sheesh. Asus Maximus VIII Hero Alpha| i7-6700K @ 4.60GHz | nVidia GTX 1080ti Strix OC 11GB @ 2075MHz| 16GB G.Skill Trident Z RGB 3200Mhz DDR4 CL14 | Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2 SSD | Corsair Force LE 480GB SSD | Windows 10 64-Bit | TM Warthog with FSSB R3 Lighting Base | VKB Gunfighter Pro + MCG | TM MFD's | Oculus Rift S | Jetseat FSE [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demongornot Posted July 23, 2019 Author Share Posted July 23, 2019 In relation to the information on the article Engine F-16C is powered by 5 engine not only the mention F110-GE-100. So block 25 started with F100-PW-200 and later change to the F100-PW-220 ( or updated 200, called 220E) Block 30 first to use F110-GE-100 Block 32 F100-PW-220 Block 40 F110-GE-100 block 42 F100-PW-220/220E and some units use F100-PW-229 (two units in the ANG) Block 50 F110-GE-129 Block 52 F100-PW-229 And yes, they are all F-16C The computers mention for the engine are wrong. The PW-220/220E and the 229 engine uses Digital Electronic Engine Control (DEEC) and what he calls SEC is the Main Fuel Control (MFC). The GE-100 uses Digital Engine Control (DEC) and the Main Engine Control (MEC). The PW -200 had the Electronic Engine Control (EEC) and the Unified Fuel Control (UFC) The Jet Fuel Starter (JFS) is not started by compress air. I stop reading after this, to much wrong information, not worth the time. Interesting infos and nice details about the engine, good to know. I guess the post on my link isn't really good for an Engineering stand point but it should probably suffice to give a basic idea of the cockpit layout and features I guess. CPU : I7 6700k, MB : MSI Z170A GAMING M3, GC : EVGA GTX 1080ti SC2 GAMING iCX, RAM : DDR4 HyperX Fury 4 x 8 Go 2666 MHz CAS 15, STORAGE : Windows 10 on SSD, games on HDDs. Hardware used for DCS : Pro, Saitek pro flight rudder, Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog, Oculus Rift. Own : A-10C, Black Shark (BS1 to BS2), P-51D, FC3, UH-1H, Combined Arms, Mi-8MTV2, AV-8B, M-2000C, F/A-18C, Hawk T.1A Want : F-14 Tomcat, Yak-52, AJS-37, Spitfire LF Mk. IX, F-5E, MiG-21Bis, F-86F, MAC, F-16C, F-15E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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