Dogfight Switch cancel when centered

[Drahkken]

Requested: Dogfight Mode should cancel (center) when Cougar TQS Dogfight switch moves out of DOGFIGHT or MISSILE OVERRIDE positions. As ThrustMaster didn't make the center position a button press, I am unable to map it within DCS. I'm requesting a Custom Setting to cancel the dogfight mode when the button is no longer pressed.

[Falconeer]

there are controls under "special for joystick" in the controls tab, which are labeled: "dogfight/center" and "missile/center" and these is what i use on my Cougar throttle. It should help you with yours

[Drahkken]

there are controls under "special for joystick" in the controls tab, which are labeled: "dogfight/center" and "missile/center" and these is what i use on my Cougar throttle. It should help you with yours

 

Not seeing a "special for joystick" subsection so maybe I'm missing something, but the "throttle grip" section does indeed have "DOGFIGHT/Missile Override Switch - DOGFIGHT/CENTER" and "DOGFIGHT/Missile Override Switch - MISSILE OVERRIDE/CENTER" buttons, but they both require me to press the button again.

 

I'm requesting that when I move my dogfight switch out of that position, the Sim understands the Cougar is no-longer holding the button press and therefore must be back in center, so DCS would press the Cancel for me.

[Rudel_chw]

I'm requesting that when I move my dogfight switch out of that position, the Sim understands the Cougar is no-longer holding the button press and therefore must be back in center, so DCS would press the Cancel for me.

 

You can do that with a Foxy profile, as it allows you to bind one command for when you Press a Button and another for when you Release it ... the Dogfight switch would look like this on Foxy:

 

Rem ###################################################
Rem   T7-T8 : Toggle DogFight & Missile Override Modes
Rem ###################################################

BTN T7 /P DOGFIGHT/Missile_Override_Switch-DOGFIGHT 
      /R DOGFIGHT/Missile_Override_Switch-DOGFIGHT/CENTER 
BTN T8 /P DOGFIGHT/Missile_Override_Switch-MISSILE_OVERRIDE 
      /R DOGFIGHT/Missile_Override_Switch-MISSILE_OVERRIDE/CENTER 

You wont be able to do this with DCS alone, as DCS only handles the Press event and not the Release.

[Deano87]

This is already in the sim. Look under "Special for Joystick" in the F-16 Sim controls.

[Drahkken]

This is already in the sim. Look under "Special for Joystick" in the F-16 Sim controls.

 

OK, that sounds great! But I can't find this category...

 

"Special for Joystick" doesn't show up in the control categories and I can't find it.

 

Nor does it show up under Stick or Throttle, nor even under the SPECIAL tab itself. Am I missing something obvious or is it hidden somewhere I haven't thought to look?

[Deano87]

In the controls menu, make sure you’re in “F-16 Sim“ and then in the box where you can select what category of controls you’re looking at look For “special for joystick”

 

Below is an image related to the A-10C but it shows you how the different categories of controls works.

 

 

Edited October 7, 2019 by Deano87

[Drahkken]

Thanks for guidance and images. I tried to link an image from Pasteboard showing that I do NOT HAVE the “special for joystick” category. Maybe this is a bug...

 

I'll keep looking. Is there an image-host that I can put my screenshot of the category NOT being there?

[Deano87]

Just confirm you’re looking in the F-16 Sim controls not “F-16 Game” or “F-16 Easy” I think it’s called, not near my computer to check.

[unknown]

Thanks for guidance and images. I tried to link an image from Pasteboard showing that I do NOT HAVE the “special for joystick” category. Maybe this is a bug...

 

I'll keep looking. Is there an image-host that I can put my screenshot of the category NOT being there?

 

It's there:

[Drahkken]

Ok. So I absolutely SWEAR that the Special for Joystick category wasn’t there. I had a screenshot showing it missing and had looked multiple times. Now it’s there and the button works as advertised. Baffled but thankful and happy.

 

Thanks folks!

[juimo]

Wish air brake worked same like DOGFIGHT switch (Thrustmaster Cougar) Keeping SPD BRK aft >> extend, and when I release it >> retract. SPD BRK forward >> extend, and back to the center >> retract!

[=Panther=]

Wish air brake worked same like DOGFIGHT switch (Thrustmaster Cougar) Keeping SPD BRK aft >> extend, and when I release it >> retract. SPD BRK forward >> extend, and back to the center >> retract!

 

You would have to program that in software, because the Speed Brake functions correctly, and that is how it is mapped in the game.

[juimo]

Thank You Panther! You are right. It works correctly now. SPD BRK action doesn't pain me any more :clap:

 

https://www.quora.com/What-do-all-of-the-controls-in-an-F16-fighter-jets-cockpit-do#

 

"The speed brake switch is also three-position. The middle position does not move the speed brakes. Switch forward closes the speed brakes, and aft opens them. The aft position is momentary only and must be held in."