Lenux Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 I tried different springs / cams for ROLL 2 x per axis or one, same result. I can't calibrate 100 % the ROLL As you can see in the attached image, 32767 is the centered value, but not for the Roll What else should I try, guys ? Should I ignore this, and leave it as it is ? Any advices are welcome, thank you I9 12900k@ 5 GHz | 32 GB DDR4 | Asus ROG Strix Z690-A Gaming Wifi d4| RTX 3090 | 6 TB SSD + 8 TB HDD | 4K Samsung Q90R 55" | VKB MK III PRO L | Virpil Throttle MONGOOST-50 | MFG Crosswind | TrackIR5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gholi Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Me neither, like you, I can not get a perfect calibration with the ROLL axis when I use the Cam # 10, regardless of the spring's force double or simple and it annoys me and gets on my nerves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenux Posted November 17, 2019 Author Share Posted November 17, 2019 Can you please, attach a printscreen with yours ? I9 12900k@ 5 GHz | 32 GB DDR4 | Asus ROG Strix Z690-A Gaming Wifi d4| RTX 3090 | 6 TB SSD + 8 TB HDD | 4K Samsung Q90R 55" | VKB MK III PRO L | Virpil Throttle MONGOOST-50 | MFG Crosswind | TrackIR5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 How does it look when you actually go through the VKB calibration routine? Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenux Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) Everything looks okay but not the Roll axis It should be 32767 - centered Would that be a problem, if the Roll axis is 31700 / 32100, etc , instead of default value - 32.767 ? Edited November 18, 2019 by Lenux I9 12900k@ 5 GHz | 32 GB DDR4 | Asus ROG Strix Z690-A Gaming Wifi d4| RTX 3090 | 6 TB SSD + 8 TB HDD | 4K Samsung Q90R 55" | VKB MK III PRO L | Virpil Throttle MONGOOST-50 | MFG Crosswind | TrackIR5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Everything looks okay but not the Roll axis It should be 32767 - centered Would that be a problem, if the Roll axis is 31700 / 32100, etc , instead of default value - 32.767 ? Is your stick not centering in exactly the same spot when returning to center in the roll axis? It should be at least very, very close. Have you checked the roll dampener? Sounds like maybe you need to loosen it up on the roll axis? Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenux Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2019 That's right, the stick is not centering in the same spot.... Could you please tell me exactly which is the dampener ? Thank you I9 12900k@ 5 GHz | 32 GB DDR4 | Asus ROG Strix Z690-A Gaming Wifi d4| RTX 3090 | 6 TB SSD + 8 TB HDD | 4K Samsung Q90R 55" | VKB MK III PRO L | Virpil Throttle MONGOOST-50 | MFG Crosswind | TrackIR5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 That's right, the stick is not centering in the same spot.... Could you please tell me exactly which is the dampener ? Thank you I gotta run out real quick - it is the dry clutch I believe they refer to it as. Check the VKB North America website, you should find info on how to adjust it there... Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fallout9 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 There are a few options helping the grip centering perfectly: - use the hard detent cams (#30); - use stronger springs (a min. of 1x30 or 2x20); - loosen the dry clutches completely; - use a wider deadzone. In your case, if you're using the same cams and springs on both axes and only the X axis has issues returning to the center it could mean that the damper on that axis is too tight. Here's a video showing how to replace cams and springs on a GF MKII base; I linked to the time when the dry clutch is adjusted: There are also people preferring a very sensitive stick so they use light springs (#10 or #20) and soft centering cams (#10); in these cases the grip won't be returning to center by itself, you have to push it there. Also, you could program a button in VKBDevCfg - press it and the respective axis drops to 0. Link for this variant: http://forum.vkb-sim.pro/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=3653 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenux Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2019 Thank you so much, I'll try it later when I get home I9 12900k@ 5 GHz | 32 GB DDR4 | Asus ROG Strix Z690-A Gaming Wifi d4| RTX 3090 | 6 TB SSD + 8 TB HDD | 4K Samsung Q90R 55" | VKB MK III PRO L | Virpil Throttle MONGOOST-50 | MFG Crosswind | TrackIR5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenux Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share Posted November 19, 2019 I tried as fallout9 suggested Way better, almost perfect now Thank you very much, again I9 12900k@ 5 GHz | 32 GB DDR4 | Asus ROG Strix Z690-A Gaming Wifi d4| RTX 3090 | 6 TB SSD + 8 TB HDD | 4K Samsung Q90R 55" | VKB MK III PRO L | Virpil Throttle MONGOOST-50 | MFG Crosswind | TrackIR5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 I tried as fallout9 suggested Way better, almost perfect now Thank you very much, again :thumbup: Have fun! Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rrohde Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) And that's why - boys and girls - we (VKBcontrollers.com) have this note on the Gunfighters product pages for everyone to see: :thumbup: Edited November 21, 2019 by rrohde PC: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X | MSI Suprim GeForce 3090 TI | ASUS Prime X570-P | 128GB DDR4 3600 RAM | 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD | Win10 Pro 64bit Gear: HP Reverb G2 | JetPad FSE | VKB Gunfighter Pro Mk.III w/ MCG Ultimate VKBcontrollers.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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