Are wheel brakes controlled by rudder a la Spitfire?

[-0303-]

Quoting Chucks guide. (https://www.mudspike.com/chucks-guides-dcs-i-16-ishak/)

Braking is done by pressing the wheel brake pedals. Braking can be done by using both the wheel brakes and using the rudder pedals; the tailwheel is mechanically

linked to the rudder, which makes taxiing easier.

This is ambiguous. The Spitfire system works quite well so it isn't inconceivable something similar is implemented in the I-16.

Are wheel brakes controlled by rudders in any way?

[SFC Tako]

Left wheel brake is controlled by left pedal.

Right wheel brake is controlled by right pedal.

[-0303-]

Toe pedals, yes.

 

I thought this Chuck Guide sentence: "Braking can be done by using both the wheel brakes and using the rudder pedals" suggested wheel braking could be accomplished by either the toe pedals or also indirectly (differential) braking was connected to rudder position.

 

I'll assume this was an ambiguous phrasing though I have noticed braking after landing is immensely helpful to avoid ground looping, maybe too helpful.

With braking after landing I never ground loop. Not braking, it's a dicey crap shoot.

[Charly_Owl]

To me it was very clear since I've flown so many different simulations of Spitfires...

 

The way the brake is use is that you hold the brake lever WHILE using rudder pedals left or right.

[Fri13]

I thought that correct way is to push pedal fully on the side you want to brake, and then you will squeeze brake lever in stick to apply wanted brake force to that pedal side?

[-0303-]

We are talking about the I-16, not the Spitfire.

 

 

The way the brake is use is that you hold the brake lever WHILE using rudder pedals left or right.

This is how I land both I-16 and Spitfire. I have brakes mapped to joystick pinkie button (but3) for both planes. I apply full brakes both wheels (for I-16) via the pinkie button. As we all know, the Spitfire has a differential braking system controlled by rudders.

 

 

Because it is sooo much easier to keep straight with brakes on and also because of the wording in Chuck's guide, I thought maybe the I-16 also had differential braking controlled by the rudder pedals. I'll assume it doesn't.

 

Obviously, I can always do differential braking with the toe pedals. I find I don't need to.

Edited November 28, 2019 by -0303-

[Mr_sukebe]

I did think that on release, the braking for the i16 was differential, as per the Spitfire.

That's certainly not the case now. It brakes just like the FW190, but without the ability to lock the rear wheel.

[Svsmokey]

Kermit Weeks has one . I'll be looking out for his walk-around or flying vids . I am surprised to hear that the Octopus version has toe-brakes .

[Mr_sukebe]

Kermit Weeks has one . I'll be looking out for his walk-around or flying vids . I am surprised to hear that the Octopus version has toe-brakes .

 

I was surprised at the change. My guess is that it was to make ground handling a little easier. It did, but it's still IMO the most difficult aircraft in game to taxi.

[-0303-]

Kermit Weeks was in the Hoggit trainer server for a week in June flying Tf-51D.

 

Found a Kermit Weeks video where he looks and buys an I-16. Conveniently there's a cockpit closeup and there's toe brakes, identical to I-16 DCS. Panning a plaque, it is the type 24, the DCS version. The instrument panel was not identical, but that is partly because of non original instruments. Row of switches has a different place. He said he would strip down the wings at least, so guessing Kermit will fly it next summer earliest. He was fascinated by the clock warmer, siberian winter and all.

~

 

I did think that on release, the braking for the i16 was differential, as per the Spitfire.

I'm curious why you'd think that. Not by looking at it, it has pedals. I only thought so because of how much easier it was to keep straight with brakes on. Note, both brakes engaged, NOT using the toe brakes (using a single joystick button).

Edited November 30, 2019 by -0303-