[Reported] F-16C Blk 50 Fuselage Roughness Channel Inverted

[berk.kp]

Custom Roughmet textures for the fuselage ("F16_bl50_Main_1_RoughMet") do not show up, the model displays the default RoughMet texture. This is an F-16-specific problem because when I replaced the model file "f-16c_bl50.edm" with the older one from the release version the bug was gone. Custom RoughMet textures for the tailfin ("F16_bl50_Kil_RoughMet") work fine.

Wing textures I haven't checked yet. Please do not move this thread since it is an F-16-specific problem and I narrowed it down to the model file.

Edited November 27, 2019 by berk.kp

[SkateZilla]

Material Name has Likely Changed,

 

After All, the 3D External is still being Finished, so things will change before they are finalized.

 

 

Please Link / Attach the Livery you are having a problem with.

[Mnemonic]

Please Link / Attach the Livery you are having a problem with.

Pretty much any custom skin to date, from here:

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/index.php?set_filter=Y&arrFilter_pf%5Bfiletype%5D=6&arrFilter_pf%5Bgameversion%5D=&arrFilter_pf%5Bfilelang%5D=&arrFilter_pf%5Baircraft%5D=561&arrFilter_DATE_CREATE_1_DAYS_TO_BACK=&CREATED_BY=&sort_by_order=TIMESTAMP_X_DESC&set_filter=Filter

 

for example this:

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3306530/

 

or these:

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3306469/?sphrase_id=20627144

[SkateZilla]

This is a bug. Possibly the "F16_bl50_Main_1_RoughMet.dds" and the "F16_bl50_Main_3_RoughMet.dds" have been changed to make one of the damage textures on the model and then not converted back. These two textures can be specified with the entry "false"

not show. Only the textures from the main folder are displayed. In the pictures you can see that the lines are black instead of white. The lua entries have been changed. The entry for glass is double. This also means that you can not display the self-created color with the entry "false".

 

Entries old:

livery = {

{"F16_bl50_Engine", 0, "f16_bl50_engine", false};

{"F16_bl50_Engine", NORMAL_MAP, "f16_bl50_engine_normal", false};

{"F16_bl50_Engine", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "f16_bl50_engine_roughmet", false};

{"F16_bl50_wing_L", 0, "f16_bl50_wing_l", false};

{"F16_bl50_wing_L", NORMAL_MAP, "f16_bl50_wing_l_normal", false};

{"F16_bl50_wing_L", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "f16_bl50_wing_l_roughmet", false};

{"F16_bl50_wing_R", 0, "f16_bl50_wing_r", false};

{"F16_bl50_wing_R", NORMAL_MAP, "f16_bl50_main_3_normal", false};

{"F16_bl50_wing_R", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "f16_bl50_wing_r_roughmet", false};

{"F16_bl50_Main_1", 0, "f16_bl50_main_1", false};

{"F16_bl50_Main_1", NORMAL_MAP, "f16_bl50_main_1_normal", false};

{"F16_bl50_Main_1", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "f16_bl50_main_1_roughmet", false};

{"F16_bl50_Kil", 0, "f16_bl50_kil", false};

{"F16_bl50_Kil", NORMAL_MAP, "f16_bl50_kil_normal", false};

{"F16_bl50_Kil", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "f16_bl50_kil_roughmet", false};

{"F16_bl50_Main_3", 0, "f16_bl50_main_3", false};

{"F16_bl50_Main_3", NORMAL_MAP, "f16_bl50_main_3_normal", false};

{"F16_bl50_Main_3", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "f16_bl50_main_3_roughmet", false};

{"F16_bl50_GLASS", 0, "f16_bl50_glass", false};

{"F16_bl50_GLASS", NORMAL_MAP, "f16_bl50_glass_normal", false};

{"F16_bl50_GLASS", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "f16_bl50_glass_roughmet", false};

{"F16_bl50_GLASS", 0, "f16_bl50_glass", false};

{"LAU_129", DIFFUSE, "lau_129_diff", false};

{"LAU_129", NORMAL_MAP, "lau_129_nm", false};

{"LAU_129", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "lau_129_diff_roughmet", false};

{"FLOOR-01", 0, "f16c-cpt-floor-01", false};

{"f16c_cockpit_1", 0, "f16c_cockpit_1", false};

{"f16c_cockpit_1", 0, "f16c_cockpit_1_nrm", false};

{"f16c_cockpit_2", 0, "f16c_cockpit_2", false};

{"f16c_cockpit_2", 0, "f16c_cockpit_2_nrm", false};

{"f16c_cpt_switches", 0, "f16c_cpt_switches", false};

{"f16c_cpt_switches", 0, "f16c_cpt_switches_nrm", false};

{"f16c_ej_seat", 0, "f16c_ej_seat", false};

{"f16c_ej_seat", 0, "f16c_ej_seat_nrm", false};

{"pilot_F16_helmet_glass", 0, "pilot_f16_visor", false};

{"pilot_F16_helmet_glass", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "pilot_f16_visor_roughmet", false};

{"pilot_F16_helmet_glass", 0, "pilot_f16_visor_filtr", false};

{"pilot_F16_helmet", 0, "pilot_f16_helmet", false};

{"pilot_F16_helmet", NORMAL_MAP, "pilot_f16_helmet_nm", false};

{"pilot_F16_helmet", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "pilot_f16_helmet_roughmet", false};

{"pilot_F16_patch", 0, "pilot_f16_patch", false};

{"pilot_F16_patch", NORMAL_MAP, "pilot_f16_patch_nm", false};

{"pilot_F16_patch", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "pilot_f16_patch_roughmet", false};

{"pilot_F16", 0, "pilot_f16", false};

{"pilot_F16", NORMAL_MAP, "pilot_f16_nm", false};

{"pilot_F16", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "pilot_f16_roughmet", false};

{"pilot_F16_helmet", 0, "pilot_f16_helmet", false};

{"pilot_F16_helmet", NORMAL_MAP, "pilot_f16_helmet_nm", false};

{"pilot_F16_helmet", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "pilot_f16_helmet_roughmet", false};

{"F16_bl50_Wing_Pylon_1", 0, "f16_bl50_wing_pylon_1", false};

{"F16_bl50_Wing_Pylon_1", NORMAL_MAP, "f16_bl50_wing_pylon_1_normal", false};

{"F16_bl50_Wing_Pylon_1", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "f16_bl50_wing_pylon_1_roughmet", false};

{"F16_bl50_Wing_Pylon_2", 0, "f16_bl50_wing_pylon_2", false};

{"F16_bl50_Wing_Pylon_2", NORMAL_MAP, "f16_bl50_wing_pylon_2_normal", false};

{"F16_bl50_Wing_Pylon_2", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "f16_bl50_wing_pylon_2_roughmet", false};

{"F16_bl50_Gear", 0, "f16_bl50_gear", false};

{"F16_bl50_Gear", NORMAL_MAP, "f16_bl50_gear_normal", false};

{"F16_bl50_Gear", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "f16_bl50_gear_roughmet", false};

{"F16_bl50_Main_2", 0, "f16_bl50_main_2", false};

{"F16_bl50_Main_2", NORMAL_MAP, "f16_bl50_main_2_normal", false};

{"F16_bl50_Main_2", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "f16_bl50_main_2_roughmet", false};

{"F16_bl50_Tyres", 0, "f16_bl50_tyres", false};

{"F16_bl50_Tyres", NORMAL_MAP, "f16_bl50_tyres_normal", false};

{"F16_bl50_Tyres", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "f16_bl50_tyres_roughmet", false};

{"F16_bl50_Gear", 0, "f16_bl50_gear", false};

{"F16_bl50_Gear", NORMAL_MAP, "f16_bl50_gear_normal", false};

{"F16_bl50_Gear", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "f16_bl50_gear_roughmet", false};

}

 

 

New entries:

livery = {

{"F16_bl50_Engine", 0, "f16_bl50_engine", false};

{"F16_bl50_Engine", NORMAL_MAP, "f16_bl50_engine_normal", false};

{"F16_bl50_Engine", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "f16_bl50_engine_roughmet", false};

{"F16_bl50_Main_1", 0, "f16_bl50_main1", false};

{"F16_bl50_Main_1", NORMAL_MAP, "f16_bl50_main_1_normal", false};

{"F16_bl50_Main_1", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "f16_bl50_main_1_roughmet", false};

{"F16_bl50_Main_1", 0, "f16_bl50_damage1", false};

{"F16_bl50_wing_L", 0, "f16_bl50_wing_l", false};

{"F16_bl50_wing_L", NORMAL_MAP, "f16_bl50_wing_l_normal", false};

{"F16_bl50_wing_L", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "f16_bl50_wing_l_roughmet", false};

{"F16_bl50_wing_L", 0, "f16_bl50_damage1", false};

{"F16_bl50_wing_R", 0, "f16_bl50_wing_r", false};

{"F16_bl50_wing_R", NORMAL_MAP, "f16_bl50_wing_r_normal", false};

{"F16_bl50_wing_R", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "f16_bl50_wing_r_roughmet", false};

{"F16_bl50_wing_R", 0, "f16_bl50_damage1", false};

{"F16_bl50_Kil", 0, "f16_bl50_kil", false};

{"F16_bl50_Kil", NORMAL_MAP, "f16_bl50_kil_normal", false};

{"F16_bl50_Kil", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "f16_bl50_kil_roughmet", false};

{"F16_bl50_Kil", 0, "f16_bl50_damage1", false};

{"F16_bl50_light_Kil_B", 0, "f16_bl50_bano", false};

{"F16_bl50_Main_3", 0, "f16_bl50_main3", false};

{"F16_bl50_Main_3", NORMAL_MAP, "f16_bl50_main_3_normal", false};

{"F16_bl50_Main_3", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "f16_bl50_main_3_roughmet", false};

{"F16_bl50_Main_3", 0, "f16_bl50_damage1", false};

{"F16_bl50_light_FORMATION_BS", 0, "f16_bl50_bano", false};

{"FLOOR-01", 0, "f16c-cpt-floor-01", false};

{"f16c_cockpit_1", 0, "f16c_cockpit_1", false};

{"f16c_cockpit_1", 0, "f16c_cockpit_1_nrm", false};

{"f16c_cockpit_2", 0, "f16c_cockpit_2", false};

{"f16c_cockpit_2", 0, "f16c_cockpit_2_nrm", false};

{"f16c_cpt_switches", 0, "f16c_cpt_switches", false};

{"f16c_cpt_switches", 0, "f16c_cpt_switches_nrm", false};

{"F16_bl50_GLASS", 0, "f16_bl50_glass", false};

{"F16_bl50_GLASS", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "f16_bl50_glass_roughmet", false};

{"F16_bl50_GLASS", 0, "f16_bl50_glass", false};

{"f16c_ej_seat", 0, "f16c_ej_seat", false};

{"f16c_ej_seat", 0, "f16c_ej_seat_nrm", false};

{"F16_bl50_light_FORMATION_TAIL", 0, "f16_bl50_bano", false};

{"pilot_F16_helmet_glass", 0, "pilot_f16_visor", false};

{"pilot_F16_helmet_glass", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "pilot_f16_visor_roughmet", false};

{"pilot_F16_helmet_glass", 0, "pilot_f16_visor_filtr", false};

{"pilot_F16_helmet", 0, "pilot_f16_helmet", false};

{"pilot_F16_helmet", NORMAL_MAP, "pilot_f16_helmet_nm", false};

{"pilot_F16_helmet", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "pilot_f16_helmet_roughmet", false};

{"pilot_F16_patch", 0, "pilot_f16_patch", false};

{"pilot_F16_patch", NORMAL_MAP, "pilot_f16_patch_nm", false};

{"pilot_F16_patch", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "pilot_f16_patch_roughmet", false};

{"pilot_F16", 0, "pilot_f16", false};

{"pilot_F16", NORMAL_MAP, "pilot_f16_nm", false};

{"pilot_F16", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "pilot_f16_roughmet", false};

{"pilot_F16_helmet", 0, "pilot_f16_helmet", false};

{"pilot_F16_helmet", NORMAL_MAP, "pilot_f16_helmet_nm", false};

{"pilot_F16_helmet", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "pilot_f16_helmet_roughmet", false};

{"F16_bl50_Gear", 0, "f16_bl50_gear", false};

{"F16_bl50_Gear", NORMAL_MAP, "f16_bl50_gear_normal", false};

{"F16_bl50_Gear", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "f16_bl50_gear_roughmet", false};

{"F16_bl50_light_LANDING", 0, "f16_bl50_bano", false};

{"F16_bl50_light_TAXI", 0, "f16_bl50_bano", false};

{"F16_bl50_Main_2", 0, "f16_bl50_main_2", false};

{"F16_bl50_Main_2", NORMAL_MAP, "f16_bl50_main_2_normal", false};

{"F16_bl50_Main_2", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "f16_bl50_main_2_roughmet", false};

{"F16_bl50_Main_2", 0, "f16_bl50_damage1", false};

{"F16_bl50_Tyres", 0, "f16_bl50_tyres", false};

{"F16_bl50_Tyres", NORMAL_MAP, "f16_bl50_tyres_normal", false};

{"F16_bl50_Tyres", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "f16_bl50_tyres_roughmet", false};

{"F16_bl50_Gear", 0, "f16_bl50_gear", false};

{"F16_bl50_Gear", NORMAL_MAP, "f16_bl50_gear_normal", false};

{"F16_bl50_Gear", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "f16_bl50_gear_roughmet", false};

{"F16_bl50_Kil", 0, "f16_bl50_kil", false};

{"F16_bl50_Kil", NORMAL_MAP, "f16_bl50_kil_normal", false};

{"F16_bl50_Kil", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "f16_bl50_kil_roughmet", false};

{"F16_bl50_Kil", 0, "f16_bl50_damage1", false};

{"F16_bl50_light_KIL_BOT", 0, "f16_bl50_bano", false};

{"F16_bl50_light_KIL", 0, "f16_bl50_bano", false};

{"F16_bl50_wing_R", 0, "f16_bl50_wing_r", false};

{"F16_bl50_wing_R", NORMAL_MAP, "f16_bl50_wing_r_normal", false};

{"F16_bl50_wing_R", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "f16_bl50_wing_r_roughmet", false};

{"F16_bl50_wing_R", 0, "f16_bl50_damage1", false};

{"F16_bl50_Wing_Pylon_2", 0, "f16_bl50_wing_pylon_2", false};

{"F16_bl50_Wing_Pylon_2", NORMAL_MAP, "f16_bl50_wing_pylon_2_normal", false};

{"F16_bl50_Wing_Pylon_2", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "f16_bl50_wing_pylon_2_roughmet", false};

{"F16_bl50_Wing_Pylon_1", 0, "f16_bl50_wing_pylon_1", false};

{"F16_bl50_Wing_Pylon_1", NORMAL_MAP, "f16_bl50_wing_pylon_1_normal", false};

{"F16_bl50_Wing_Pylon_1", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "f16_bl50_wing_pylon_1_roughmet", false};

{"LAU_129", DIFFUSE, "lau_129_diff", false};

{"LAU_129", NORMAL_MAP, "lau_129_nm", false};

{"LAU_129", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "lau_129_diff_roughmet", false};

{"F16_bl50_light_Wing", 0, "f16_bl50_bano", false};

{"F16_bl50_wing_L", 0, "f16_bl50_wing_l", false};

{"F16_bl50_wing_L", NORMAL_MAP, "f16_bl50_wing_l_normal", false};

{"F16_bl50_wing_L", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "f16_bl50_wing_l_roughmet", false};

{"F16_bl50_wing_L", 0, "f16_bl50_damage1", false};

{"F16_bl50_Damage", DAMAGE, "f16_bl50_damage", false};

{"F16_bl50_Damage", DAMAGE, "f16_bl50_damage", false};

{"F16_bl50_Damage", NORMAL_MAP, "f16_bl50_damage_normal", false};

{"F16_bl50_GLASS_BANO_INTAKE", 0, "f16_bl50_glass", false};

{"F16_bl50_GLASS_BANO_INTAKE", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC, "f16_bl50_glass_roughmet", false};

{"F16_bl50_GLASS_BANO_INTAKE", 0, "f16_bl50_glass", false};

{"F16_bl50_light_REFUEL_DOOR", 0, "f16_bl50_bano", false};

{"F16_bl50_light_FORMATION_UP", 0, "f16_bl50_bano", false};

{"F16_bl50_light_Intake_L", 0, "f16_bl50_bano", false};

{"F16_bl50_light_Intake_R", 0, "f16_bl50_bano", false};

 

 

These two textures can be specified with the entry "false"

not show.

 

that is not what False Specifies.

 

{"MATERALNAME", CHANNEL_NAME/NUMBER, TEXTURENAME, TEXTURE OUTSIDE CURRENT FOLDER};

[SkateZilla]

Pretty much any custom skin to date, from here:

 

 

for example this:

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3306530/

 

 

That Livery does not have a Defined RoughMet nor Included one in the folder for Materials:

F16_bl50_Main_3

F16_bl50_Main_2

 

So it will not load one.

[Akatsuki]

@Skatezilla, try this one: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3307029/

 

It has roughmets for almost everything... Still it shows default for Main_1 and _3...

 

 

Edit: if i generate a description.lua in modelviewer for the default livery it seem to be exactly the same material name as before.

Edited November 28, 2019 by Akatsuki

[lee1hy]

Since the update, roughmet is not working every f16 skin are usaf marking

 

roughmet green channel adjusting reflection of the fuselage is not working anymore

Edited November 28, 2019 by lee1hy

[BlueAngel]

So, is there a workaround for this? It sounds like there isn't.

[SkateZilla]

Judging by my findings there is no work around, its 3D Model related,

 

It's been reported.

[Akatsuki]

The only workaround i found is to replace the default roughmet with « neutral » ones so no USAF markings shows up but it breaks IC and it’s far from perfect. It’s usable though...

[Mnemonic]

The only workaround i found is to replace the default roughmet with « neutral » ones so no USAF markings shows up but it breaks IC and it’s far from perfect. It’s usable though...

 

Could you point me to the mod that has a "neutral" roughmet like you mention?

[Mispunt]

I found a dirty, hacky workaround, I think.

 

Change

{"F16_bl50_Main_1", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC,"F16_bl50_Main_1_RoughMet",false};

{"F16_bl50_Main_3", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC,"F16_bl50_Main_3_RoughMet",false};

to

{"F16_bl50_Main_1", 2 ,"F16_bl50_Main_1_RoughMet",false};

{"F16_bl50_Main_3", 2 ,"F16_bl50_Main_3_RoughMet",false};

 

This will load your own map on the model again.

 

Then invert the G channels and tweak the contrast of your RoughMet maps to make them look okay again.

 

I'd wait for the bug fix though.

[==Wiggy==]

Will be good to get the official paint kit once it's out of WIP. Going through the process of converting my Sabre skins, I don't want to do that with any more aircraft....so I've held off painting the Viper until this stuff is all sorted. Thanks for the info.

[BlueAngel]

Can someone confirm this was fixed with today's update 2.5.5.40603?

[ebabil]

Can someone confirm this was fixed with today's update 2.5.5.40603?

 

Nope, i can still see usaf logo on my Tuaf livery

[lee1hy]

:cry::cry::cry::cry:Still not working