J11A - SD10?

[musolo]

There is the photo of one made in 2012 in Pakistan. Where they participated in joint exercises with PAF. Note the  upgraded Data Link with the buttons on all sides. that what they had upgraded soviet DL to their domestic improoved version and used it for few years before they implemented flat screen MFDs.

[FoxTrotAlpha691]

@Top Jockey the link you listed for the edited j-11A LUA does not work any longer, the file has been removed. Do you still have it?

[Jet]

A picture saves thousands of words. All photos from official source.

 

[musolo]

7 hours ago, Jet said:

A picture saves thousands of words. All photos from official source.

 

You see there isn`t even J11 on the server. Su-27 represent all its modern Russian and Chinese modifications. Same goes for SU-33. We don`t have to spend billions of tax payers money to implement upgrades on the server. This server is most definitely not for Rivet Counters. You guys can go play 99% of other servers. 

[TaxDollarsAtWork]

I  think he means the picture shows a J-11A with a PL-12 on it

[dundun92]

3 hours ago, TaxDollarsAtWork said:

I  think he means the picture shows a J-11A with a PL-12 on it

which TBH doesnt mean a whole lot, just because you can physically put the missile on the pylon has nothing to do with whether it can actually be used/employed

[TaxDollarsAtWork]

3 minutes ago, dundun92 said:

which TBH doesnt mean a whole lot, just because you can physically put the missile on the pylon has nothing to do with whether it can actually be used/employed

uboats has mentioned it before.

They experimented with a J-11A using the PL-12 before. He hasn't said much more than that.

Its not like the case with PLANAF MK2s

[musolo]

With 100 A models in service it is the mater of time when they will rewire them all for "homegrown" PL-12. Which is entirely designed and developed by Russians btw. With China  manufacturing  them. So there is Nothing "domestic" about PL-12. Rissian missile for Russian pylon on a Russian Jet. And so called Domestic electronics suite on earlier B versions are merely modernised vacuum tube TV display with extra buttons/pages. Which they had for several years on B models befor flat screens tech  kicked in. Approach borrowed from Russians upgrading their vacuum tube little TV.

[Top Jockey]

Hello everyone,

 

Instead of opening a new thread for my doubt, I believe this one is the same matter:

 

- are the SD-10 (or PL12) related mods, again unavailable for the J11 fighter ?

- tried the 2 available ones at the link below, but they crash my DCS after mission editor...

 

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/filter/type-is-mod/unit-is-j-11a/apply/

 

[musolo]

5 hours ago, Top Jockey said:

re the SD-10 (or PL12) related mods, again unavailable for the J11 fighter

You want it for singleplayer?

[Top Jockey]

1 hour ago, musolo said:

You want it for singleplayer?

 

Yes if it would be possible.

Thank you.

[Top Jockey]

So, no one ?

[musolo]

On 10/7/2021 at 11:28 PM, Top Jockey said:

So, no one ?

There`s new mod that came out recently try it: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3318397/

Allso if you want to fly Flankers with PL12 online there`s server that equips your vanilla flankers with pl-12 automatically. No need for mods.  Server called - Exercise Red Flag. 

There`s constant airquake between buffed Red and Blue jets.  If you`re into that kind of stuff that is)

[Top Jockey]

On 10/9/2021 at 9:46 PM, musolo said:

There`s new mod that came out recently try it: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3318397/

Allso if you want to fly Flankers with PL12 online there`s server that equips your vanilla flankers with pl-12 automatically. No need for mods.  Server called - Exercise Red Flag. 

There`s constant airquake between buffed Red and Blue jets.  If you`re into that kind of stuff that is)

 

Thank you, I'll try it ASAP !

I'm yet a single player more kind of guy...

[Ramius007]

A lot of time passed, but not much changed, still no competetive redfor air superiority aircraft. What I found hillarious in this thread is that nobody have problem that J-11 use ONLY Russian missiles in any modern scenario, lets be sirious, how many Russian missiles China really bought, and how many of them are really operational on like thousands of planes air force. It's like ~1% of entire weapon stock, If anything, we should rather remove ALL Russian missiles from J-11a and replace them with Chinese variants, if we are not agreeing that J-11A can even fire R-77 and  i m preety sure R-77 stock was very low anwyay, then even Russian SARH should be replaced with Chinese SARH of the time. Another issue is that we dont have date based loadout in DCS, this leads to old Russia vs Turkey campaign in FC 3 in the 90's having R-77 capable Fulcrum C vs Turkish Amraam capable F-16C... It's more a systemic issue with DCS, and yeah, of course Redfor need better missiles, but this should not kill realism, I do not belive that early PL-12 was better than R-77, so from practical POV it shouldnt matter and I dont think that J-11A would be a taker of all most advanced Chinese missiles either, thare are more capable planes in China current arsenal that can simply make more use of better missiles. I also disagree that giving J-11A Chinese weapons would cripple Jeff sale, it's even hard to consider JF-17 a real RedFor plane, cmon open source avionics, with American parts and weapons produced in Pakistan. its appealing bird on it's own, dont have it yet, but certinly one of more interesting ones if you are into modern jets, and on my steam wishlist currently