Ala12Rv-watermanpc Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) I just realized that landing gear struts don't seem to compress enough in both empty and heavily loaded aircraft states (especially the main gear), at least according to many pictures of the real plane, it looks like the suspension reamains always in the position it would be when in the air, free of weight. It is also noticeable because the center line external fuel tank doesn't seem to be as close to the ground as it looks in real life pics, which is surprisingly low, almost touching the deck. The nose wheel hinge also shows a very relaxed state instead of a more flexed one. A few examples: Although I can see a really really small compression when adding weight, it is barely noticeable and at the same time, the suspension looks surprisingly the same as real life pics without any weight on wheels so I think it could be a bug or maybe just a work in progress: On the ground: In the air: it looks pretty much the same, which match almost perfectly the how the gear looks in real life without weight: Hope it helps in case it is not a WiP thing. Edited December 19, 2019 by LJQCN101 Take a look at my MODS here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonJosh Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 yeah i noticed it too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala12Rv-watermanpc Posted December 12, 2019 Author Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) Hope we can get some info about this from the devs. Edited December 12, 2019 by watermanpc Take a look at my MODS here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrorban Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Funny how the FOV from DCS makes the jet a bit tiny compared with the RL images. But yeah, I also recall watching the documentry on TV where they were talking about how JF-17 stands quite low to the ground. Airplanes : A-10C II | AJS-37 | A/V-8B | F-4E | F-14A/B | F/A-18C | FC3 | JF-17 | M2000-C Helicopters : AH-64D | CH-47F | Ka-50 III | Mi-24P | Mi-8MTV2 | SA342 | UH-1H Other Modules : Combined Arms | Persian Gulf | Afghanistan TRAINED - LEARNING - LOW EXPERIENCE - ABANDONED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJQCN101 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Will fix. EFM / FCS developer, Deka Ironwork Simulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala12Rv-watermanpc Posted December 13, 2019 Author Share Posted December 13, 2019 Will fix. Great!, I guess this is also what causes the landing gear to feel so stiff...thanks for the amazing support!:) Take a look at my MODS here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonJosh Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 any news on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel_108 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Probably fixed in the next update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonJosh Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Probably fixed in the next update. are you from the DEKA team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJQCN101 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Hopefully in the next hotfix. EFM / FCS developer, Deka Ironwork Simulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel_108 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 are you from the DEKA team? No, why do you ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonJosh Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 No, why do you ask?Because you answered my question in a way, it sounds like you know more than I know. Gesendet von meinem BLA-L29 mit Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrorban Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Hopefully in the next hotfix. Can you also please review the dampening effect? Now that you have tweaked the low flight behaviour, the jet needs to be somewhat fast on touchdowns. Currently upon landings, the jet bounces a lot, instead of the gears dampening the force of impact and preventing the bounce. Something like shown here: Airplanes : A-10C II | AJS-37 | A/V-8B | F-4E | F-14A/B | F/A-18C | FC3 | JF-17 | M2000-C Helicopters : AH-64D | CH-47F | Ka-50 III | Mi-24P | Mi-8MTV2 | SA342 | UH-1H Other Modules : Combined Arms | Persian Gulf | Afghanistan TRAINED - LEARNING - LOW EXPERIENCE - ABANDONED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJQCN101 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Can you also please review the dampening effect? Now that you have tweaked the low flight behaviour, the jet needs to be somewhat fast on touchdowns. Currently upon landings, the jet bounces a lot, instead of the gears dampening the force of impact and preventing the bounce. Something like shown here: With a now fully working ground effect, your touchdown speed should be lower. And yes the dampening effect has been taken into consideration. EFM / FCS developer, Deka Ironwork Simulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrorban Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Thank you for your answer. I suppose, it is just the case for relearning landing method with the new updates. You guys are doing great work so far. Really enjoying the jet. Airplanes : A-10C II | AJS-37 | A/V-8B | F-4E | F-14A/B | F/A-18C | FC3 | JF-17 | M2000-C Helicopters : AH-64D | CH-47F | Ka-50 III | Mi-24P | Mi-8MTV2 | SA342 | UH-1H Other Modules : Combined Arms | Persian Gulf | Afghanistan TRAINED - LEARNING - LOW EXPERIENCE - ABANDONED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala12Rv-watermanpc Posted December 20, 2019 Author Share Posted December 20, 2019 With a now fully working ground effect, your touchdown speed should be lower. And yes the dampening effect has been taken into consideration. The ground effect in this plane is probably the best I have experienced so far in DCS, it is subtle yet it's there very clearly and convincing...it really pushes you slightly off the ground, amazing!:thumbup: About the dampening, I don't know but this jet seems to have a quite stiff suspension and I think the dampening is kind of like an f-16 according to videos, just the struts need to compress much more with the weight...maybe with more weight it would change but empty, the bounce, is pretty much spot on (7:25): thanks!! Take a look at my MODS here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJQCN101 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Looks like it's in today's hotfix. EFM / FCS developer, Deka Ironwork Simulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeriaGloria Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Gonna take a look thank you:) Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala12Rv-watermanpc Posted December 20, 2019 Author Share Posted December 20, 2019 Im out of home for holidays so I cant test the new update...guess it is solved... Thanks! Take a look at my MODS here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel_108 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Because you answered my question in a way, it sounds like you know more than I know. Gesendet von meinem BLA-L29 mit Tapatalk Oh, no I am not, sorry. It was more of an educated guess, as they already commented "FIXING" on the bug thread but it didn't make it into the first patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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