TOViper Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Hi folks, during usage of the TGP I accidently pressed TMS right two times within a second. This brings up the "PTR" indication in the window. In the manual on page 38 there is no description for pressing TMS right two times ... What does it do and what is it intended for? Thanks TOViper Visit https://www.viggen.training ...Viggen... what more can you ask for? my computer: AMD Ryzen 5600G | NVIDIA GTX 1080 Ti OC 11GB | 32 GB 3200 MHz DDR4 DUAL | SSD 980 256 GB SYS + SSD 2TB DCS | TM Warthog Stick + Throttle + TPR | Rift CV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvroLanc Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Hi folks, during usage of the TGP I accidently pressed TMS right two times within a second. This brings up the "PTR" indication in the window. In the manual on page 38 there is no description for pressing TMS right two times ... What does it do and what is it intended for? Thanks TOViper IR Pointer. Visible through NVGs for marking purposes. Did you try to use NVGs with it on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOViper Posted December 20, 2019 Author Share Posted December 20, 2019 IR Pointer. Visible through NVGs for marking purposes. Did you try to use NVGs with it on? Negative, this is why I most probably notice any difference outside :) Should the IR pointer work in the current OpenBeta? Visit https://www.viggen.training ...Viggen... what more can you ask for? my computer: AMD Ryzen 5600G | NVIDIA GTX 1080 Ti OC 11GB | 32 GB 3200 MHz DDR4 DUAL | SSD 980 256 GB SYS + SSD 2TB DCS | TM Warthog Stick + Throttle + TPR | Rift CV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvroLanc Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Negative, this is why I most probably notice any difference outside :) Should the IR pointer work in the current OpenBeta? I’m not sure if it works, but it does in the Hornet TGP. Since they share similar code and are similar dev pace, then Viper one may. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknown Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Yes, it works. 1 Modules: KA-50, A-10C, FC3, UH-1H, MI-8MTV2, CA, MIG-21bis, FW-190D9, Bf-109K4, F-86F, MIG-15bis, M-2000C, SA342 Gazelle, AJS-37 Viggen, F/A-18C, F-14, C-101, FW-190A8, F-16C, F-5E, JF-17, SC, Mi-24P Hind, AH-64D Apache, Mirage F1, F-4E Phantom II System: Win 11 Pro 64bit, Ryzen 3800X, 32gb RAM DDR4-3200, PowerColor Radeon RX 6900XT Red Devil ,1 x Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe, 2 x Samsung SSD 2TB + 1TB SATA, MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals - VIRPIL T-50CM and VIRPIL MongoosT-50 Throttle - HP Reverg G2, using only the latest Open Beta, DCS settings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjacobsen Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Maybe it goes from "area" to "Point" track. Normally "point" track is selected by pressing TMS Forward short, and "Area" track is selcted by pressing TMS Right short. i7-10700K 3.8-5.1Ghz, 32GB RAM, RTX 4070 12GB, 1 x 1 TB SSD, 2 x 2TB SSD2 TB, 1 x 2 TBHDD 7200 RPM, Win10 Home 64bit, Meta Quest 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOViper Posted December 20, 2019 Author Share Posted December 20, 2019 thnx guys!! Visit https://www.viggen.training ...Viggen... what more can you ask for? my computer: AMD Ryzen 5600G | NVIDIA GTX 1080 Ti OC 11GB | 32 GB 3200 MHz DDR4 DUAL | SSD 980 256 GB SYS + SSD 2TB DCS | TM Warthog Stick + Throttle + TPR | Rift CV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOViper Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 Seems not working anymore in OB 2.7.8.16140. Do you guys have luck? Visit https://www.viggen.training ...Viggen... what more can you ask for? my computer: AMD Ryzen 5600G | NVIDIA GTX 1080 Ti OC 11GB | 32 GB 3200 MHz DDR4 DUAL | SSD 980 256 GB SYS + SSD 2TB DCS | TM Warthog Stick + Throttle + TPR | Rift CV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederf Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 I'm not sure if our TGP is supposed to have the NV pointer or not. In some TGP the PTR option is selected on OSB2 which is where we have the AUTO/MAN option currently. In this later TGP 2x TMS right is the hands on shortcut to cycle through the three options: designator -> pointer -> both. Also in this later TGP the TMS left x2 cycles between IR and TV for TGP. TMS left x1 is for cycling between IR BHOT and IR WHOT. In DCS the cycle is a simple IR B -> IR W -> TV without the double tap. The TGP is capable of producing up to three laser wavelengths: 1.54 micrometer training designator, 1.06 micrometer combat designator, and ~900 nanometer NV pointer. The training/combat designator are for weapon or LSS designations and are invisible when viewed through NVGs. The training wavelength is eye safe at a closer range and is used with special practice LGB rounds. The training/combat selection is cycled on the laser DED page. The NV pointer works regardless of the laser arm switch and produces alone or simultaneously with the designator laser a visible laser beam when viewed through NVGs. It's good for pointing things out to others at night. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 On 12/6/2021 at 1:27 AM, Frederf said: I'm not sure if our TGP is supposed to have the NV pointer or not. Well, it's the same Lightening that we have on the Hornet and the Hog, where we can use the pointer, so the pod should have it... Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janitha2 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Hey i took this screenshot a few days a go in the hoggit server, i saw this green line coming from an A10 pointing at a T72 is this the ir laser or is it a bug? because when i get close to it the line goes away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furiz Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Looks like laser from his TPOD, the fact it turned off may be cause he stopped lasing that target. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaylw314 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Furiz said: Looks like laser from his TPOD, the fact it turned off may be cause he stopped lasing that target. Either that or he realized he screwed up after intending to use the designator laser instead 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederf Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 That's normal. These TGPs have three laser wavelengths: a training designator, a combat designator, and a night vision pointer. The designator has to be switched (mutually exclusive) but the pod can emit the designator, pointer, or both according to settings. Night vision pointers are around 900nm wavelength so they show up in night vision. The designators are ~1060 or ~1540nm so they don't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skywalker22 Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 So to turn it on, you have to press 2x TMS Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janitha2 Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 So do we have to wait until the laser page comes for the DED to switch it to training so we can see the laser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon1-1 Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 (edited) No, training laser is an eye-safe variant of the laser designator. The IR pointer is independent of the training/combat laser designator. It's toggled with the TMS right (you can press it once for both, and twice for pointer only), and should already be in. This feature is invaluable when you're buddy lasing at night for aircraft that don't have an LST, such as Mirage 2000 or the F-5 (or any other aircraft that decided to carry a bomb where the TGP would normally be). Basically, the shooter makes a visual drop on your pointer, and then the bomb will guide. I think the pointer should be harder to overheat, so if you're pointing out targets for an aircraft with dumb bombs or rockets, you can keep it on for longer. Edited August 18, 2022 by Dragon1-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrEaSeLiTeNiN Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 Isn't the IR Pointer no longer available in DCS F-16 TGP (see thread below). I'll just be in Area track with TMS Right x 2. 1 AMD Ryzen 5 5600X | Gigabyte RTX 3070 Gaming OC 8GB | 32GB Adata Spectrix D50 3600 Mhz (16x2) | Asus B550 TUF Plus Gaming | 2TB Aorus Gen4 HOTAS Warthog | TrackIR 5 | My Files | Windows 10 Home x64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janitha2 Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Dragon1-1 said: No, training laser is an eye-safe variant of the laser designator. The IR pointer is independent of the training/combat laser designator. It's toggled with the TMS right (you can press it once for both, and twice for pointer only), and should already be in. This feature is invaluable when you're buddy lasing at night for aircraft that don't have an LST, such as Mirage 2000 or the F-5 (or any other aircraft that decided to carry a bomb where the TGP would normally be). Basically, the shooter makes a visual drop on your pointer, and then the bomb will guide. I think the pointer should be harder to overheat, so if you're pointing out targets for an aircraft with dumb bombs or rockets, you can keep it on for longer. I dont see the ir laser. 1 minute ago, GrEaSeLiTeNiN said: Isn't the IR Pointer no longer available in DCS F-16 TGP (see thread below). I'll just be in Area track with TMS Right x 2. aahhh that could be why, thx!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon1-1 Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 Maybe it is indeed toggled from the DED, and it isn't implemented yet. The Viper definitely can use it IRL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederf Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 It depends on which TGP they're modeling. The PTR option should be on OSB2 in at least some pods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llOPPOTATOll Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, Frederf said: It depends on which TGP they're modeling. The PTR option should be on OSB2 in at least some pods. LITENING II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOViper Posted August 18, 2022 Author Share Posted August 18, 2022 (edited) Maybe. Fact is, that in the current Litening targeting pod modeled for the bl.52 with OB2.7.16.28157 the IR-pointer is still not available. Edited August 18, 2022 by TOViper Visit https://www.viggen.training ...Viggen... what more can you ask for? my computer: AMD Ryzen 5600G | NVIDIA GTX 1080 Ti OC 11GB | 32 GB 3200 MHz DDR4 DUAL | SSD 980 256 GB SYS + SSD 2TB DCS | TM Warthog Stick + Throttle + TPR | Rift CV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvroLanc Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 ED have just used LANTIRN pod symbology and control logic and overlaid it on top of their LITENING pod optics implementation. This is the reason why no PTR option currently exits. LANTIRN had no PTR mode. I imagine they couldn’t find a good allowable reference for LITENING symbology and logic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinclair_76 Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 Fun fact is that you can still see the IR laser flashing when shooting the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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