RocketmanAL Posted December 28, 2019 Posted December 28, 2019 (edited) So I'm building a mission around doing some toss bombing in the F-5 with GBU-12. I've set-up a infantry JTAC in an enemy base to lase targets. Since the targets are static command post objects, as far as I know, he won't lase those. So I have him attempting to lase a TACAN on the roof of the building. When TACAN is killed, the building explodes. No issues in ME for LOS or distance to target. Going through the menu he will lase the target. I release the weapon, but it always tracks a point in a field about 100 m from the target. Every time. I've tested with the loft toss and with higher energy dive drops. Both hit the same spot in the field. Troubleshooting so far includes: Changing AFAC from infantry to truck. Changing AFAC position. Changing target from TACAN to infantry. Haven't tried a Predator as it doesn't really fit the scenario. Would rather not have to worry about scripts if at all possible, but this seems like a resilient bug. Attached mission file as last tested.Mission14_V5.miz Edited December 28, 2019 by RocketmanAL Wrong term
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted December 30, 2019 ED Team Posted December 30, 2019 Hi The unit you were using is unarmed so will not have a laser, try using a armed unit instead. You may need to play around to get line of sight. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
RocketmanAL Posted December 30, 2019 Author Posted December 30, 2019 I'll try to play with it some more when I get home. I wasn't getting the LOS error when I was running it. I was also getting a laze from something, and that is the only possible unit. The GBU 12 tracks a laser source from somewhere. I've watched it visually. I'm also dropping from an F-5,so no way I'm hitting next to the same push the 5+ times I've tested.
Ramsay Posted December 30, 2019 Posted December 30, 2019 So I'm building a mission around doing some toss bombing in the F-5 with GBU-12. I've set-up a infantry JTAC in an enemy base to lase targets. Since the targets are static command post objects, as far as I know, he won't lase those. So I have him attempting to lase a TACAN on the roof of the building. When TACAN is killed, the building explodes. No issues in ME for LOS or distance to target. Going through the menu he will lase the target. I release the weapon, but it always tracks a point in a field about 100 m from the target. Every time. Looking at the target area, it is tightly packed and there are a lot of radio masts with guy-wires. I've seen issues in the past where the JTAC laser will generate a laser "spot" in mid-air, as it hits the "guy-wire" hit box, rather than the target beyond. You'll likely need to use targets without guy-wires, so the laser spot is closer to the command bunker(s) and/or move the main radio mast so it's guy-wires don't interfere with the JTAC's lase. i9 9900K @4.8GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX4070 12GB, 1+2TB NVMe, 6+4TB HD, 4+1TB SSD, Winwing Orion 2 F-15EX Throttle + F-16EX Stick, TPR Pedals, TIR5, Win 11 Pro x64, Odyssey G93SC 5120X1440
RocketmanAL Posted December 30, 2019 Author Posted December 30, 2019 (edited) Looking at the target area, it is tightly packed and there are a lot of radio masts with guy-wires. I've seen issues in the past where the JTAC laser will generate a laser "spot" in mid-air, as it hits the "guy-wire" hit box, rather than the target beyond. You'll likely need to use targets without guy-wires, so the laser spot is closer to the command bunker(s) and/or move the main radio mast so it's guy-wires don't interfere with the JTAC's lase. That's what I was kind of worried about. Any idea how big the hit box for the wires is? Should I treat it as a big cube that nothing shall pass through? Unfortunately based on the position of everything the best places. for the JTAC has been to the south.if i move the tower I'll have to do it for the 20 missions it is present in for this campaign. Edited December 30, 2019 by RocketmanAL
Ramsay Posted December 31, 2019 Posted December 31, 2019 Any idea how big the hit box for the wires is? I'm not sure, I'm guessing the laser spot appears on a cube that contains the 3d model including the guy-wires. Should I treat it as a big cube that nothing shall pass through? No, AFAIK missiles and bombs pass through, it's not the "collision" box for weapons/vehicles, rather it seems to be the surface of "3d box" for the "drawn" model were the laser "spot" appears. In a previous mission, the JTAC was lasing vehicles near a similar Main Mast and the laser "spot" was appearing ~100ft above the actual targets, such that Laser Mavericks would fly to the "spot" before carrying on their flight and hitting long. Once the Mast was moved further away, the "spot" appeared on the targets and the Laser Mavericks hit the targets as expected. i9 9900K @4.8GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX4070 12GB, 1+2TB NVMe, 6+4TB HD, 4+1TB SSD, Winwing Orion 2 F-15EX Throttle + F-16EX Stick, TPR Pedals, TIR5, Win 11 Pro x64, Odyssey G93SC 5120X1440
RocketmanAL Posted December 31, 2019 Author Posted December 31, 2019 Once the Mast was moved further away, the "spot" appeared on the targets and the Laser Mavericks hit the targets as expected. Sounds like the perfect thing to test next.
RocketmanAL Posted December 31, 2019 Author Posted December 31, 2019 Once the Mast was moved further away, the "spot" appeared on the targets and the Laser Mavericks hit the targets as expected. After moving the large mast away from the target iI was able to get a clean bomb into the target. It still seems to not quite be hitting the bunker itself, as there is still a bit of off-set. Will test again, but seems you hit the nail on the head. Much thanks!
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