Ikaros Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 (edited) *Updated* 5/4/2020 *Removed F-22/F-35/Rafale/Gripen from list as most** fly by wire aircraft surely can't be a "challenge" to fly. 4/29/2020 *Removed C-130. 4/29/2020 *Added Grumman A-6 Intruder as I'm unsure if Heatblur will develop it. 4/29/2020 *Removed Yak-38 Forger. 5/1/2020 *Removed F-15C, Mig-29, Su-27 and Su-25. 5/4/2020 *Clarified "Hawker Nimrod" as "Hawker Siddeley Nimrod". 5/4/2020 *Removed Canberra as Razbam might make that as possible future module. 5/4/2020. I've read through every post here and annotated every aircraft guess mentioned, as well as cross checked hints. Here's a list of everything it could be. Sources: *All aircraft being made by 3rd parties have been removed from list* *"It's mind melting"* source - Wags/Nineline/somebodyofficial *"It's not a World War 2 or earlier aircraft"* source - Nineline *"It's already been mentioned in this thread"* source - Nineline 4/15/2020 *"Su-35 not in development"* - EagleDynamics *"Ka-52 not in development"* - EagleDynamics 4/15/2020 *"Here is what we know, It's not WW2, probably not a bomber, it's not the F4, or C130, it isn't old, but it isnt as new as to NOW. It's a challenge to fly, and is a milestone."* source -ED tester **NEW**"The module is all new, I'll give you that. -Nineline 5/3/2020 Most likely candidate due to WIP pictures from last decade: AH-64 Apache Possible "Mind Melting": A-4 Skyhawk A-6 Intruder B-1B Lancer CH-47 Chinook E-2 Hawkeye E-3 Sentry EA-6B Prowler F/A-18 E/F/G Hornet F-104 Starfighter F-105 Thundercheif F-111 Aardvark F-117 Nighthawk English Electric Lightning Hawker Siddeley Nimrod J-15 Flanker-X2 KC-130 Hercules KC-135 Stratotanker Mig-25 Foxbat Mig-31 Foxhound Mig-35 Fulcrum F Panavia Tornado Saab 35 Draken Sepecat Jaguar Su-22 Fitter Su-24 Fencer Su-30 Flanker Su-34 Flanker Su-37 Flanker TU-22 Backfire UH-60 Blackhawk/Seahawk V-22 Osprey Edited May 4, 2020 by Ikaros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strikerdg Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 One could also think an F/A-18F super hornet based on those criteria which would be my vote. Apache and a super hornet would be my preference.. Economically speaking, the new aircraft was likely chosen to leverage recent and upcoming investments by ED. This includes: - Modern Avionics (Radar, HMD, D/L, IFF, etc) - AG Radar API - New FLIR rendering - New maps (Syria, Afghanistan) - Multi-seat (ED investing into multi-seat Huey) The obvious answer is the AH-64D Longbow Apache ED reps have stated that the choice of an aircraft is based on: community demand Yes available fleet and terrains Upcoming, yes. gameplay Considering the love for the KA-50, a complex modern gunship for team blue would do well. available docs There is indeed much material on this around the web. available knowledge/resource allocation ED has experience with Helos and modern avionics at this point. available SME A widely proliferated aircraft. I'm sure there are SMEs all over willing to assist ED. third parties developments None are developing an AH-64.. But the Kiowa may pose as competition. restrictions and risks of delivery Some AH-64D information is likely highly restricted. But consider this, Boeing has already gave ED its blessing for the Hornet. The AH-64D likely has less classified systems, has greater proliferation than the Hornet, and a Block ll AH-64 would be older than the Hornet Lot we got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeriaGloria Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 I don’t see the Kiowa as competition, they were made to work with Apaches, it’s a match made in heaven Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikaros Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 One could also think an F/A-18F super hornet based on those criteria which would be my vote. Apache and a super hornet would be my preference.. Yes, I would like both. I want the Super Hornet for personal reasons though. I don't care if it's block 1 either. I don’t see the Kiowa as competition, they were made to work with Apaches, it’s a match made in heaven Yes. The fact that the Kiowa is coming out and would complement it completely slipped my mind. Good thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gierasimov Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Where do you get info from? *Updated* 5/4/2020 *"It's already been mentioned in this thread"* source - Nineline 4/15/2020 **NEW**"The module is all new, I'll give you that. -Nineline 5/3/2020 Hey Ikaros, I can't see NineLine statements like this, can you share where you take the information from? Intel i7-13700KF :: ROG STRIX Z790-A GAMING WIFI D4 :: Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB :: MSI RTX 4080 Gaming X Trio :: VKB Gunfighter MK.III MCG Ultimate :: VPC MongoosT-50 CM3 :: non-VR :: single player :: open beta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Wags has also mentioned in one of his videos about the Hornet or the PG map (not sure which one it was), that they have established a great relationship with Boeing and that this will help with possible future Boeing related modules. :music_whistling: Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fri13 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Wags has also mentioned in one of his videos about the Hornet or the PG map (not sure which one it was), that they have established a great relationship with Boeing and that this will help with possible future Boeing related modules. :music_whistling: IIRC in the same video there was the OH-58 Kiowa Warrior well presented next to Hornets..... Just a hint hint that it was back then called to be coming, and after couple years it was confirmed by Polychop! i7-8700k, 32GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 2x 2080S SLI 8GB, Oculus Rift S. i7-8700k, 16GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 1080Ti 11GB, 27" 4K, 65" HDR 4K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 So I take it the rumours of Polychop not having the licencing for the Kiowa are false then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foul Ole Ron Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Polychop said clearly they have received a licence. ED have given them a forum page and Wags has specifically mentioned that the Kiowa is being worked on. I doubt ED would've gone that far if Polychop didn't really have the required licencing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spek1 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 I have yet to experience the joys this sim has to offer, however, if there was a module of the F-111, I would spend hundreds of hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antartis Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 @Ikaros for J-35 Draken "For now, the inclusion of the Draken is limited to an AI aircraft; but we have always considered the Draken to be a prime addition to our high fidelity roadmap, and hope to make it a reality at some point!" https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3287481&postcount=1 and A-6 "The Intruder is an aircraft that has been under active development at Heatblur Simulations for some time, and subject to a license agreement, we hope to eventually introduce it into DCS world as a full DCS module - and we are developing it with this intent in mind." Asus Prime Z-370-A Intel core I7-8700K 3.70Ghz Ram g.skill f4-3200c16d 32gb Evga rtx 2070 Ssd samgung 960 evo m.2 500gb Syria, Nevada, Persian Gulf, Normandy 1944 Combined Arms A-10C, Mirage-2000C, F-16C, FC3 Spitfire LF Mk. IX UH-1H, Gazelle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaeagle Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 *Updated* 5/4/2020 *Removed F-22/F-35/Rafale/Gripen from list as most** fly by wire aircraft surely can't be a "challenge" to fly. 4/29/2020 *Removed C-130. 4/29/2020 *Added Grumman A-6 Intruder as I'm unsure if Heatblur will develop it. 4/29/2020 *Removed Yak-38 Forger. 5/1/2020 *Removed F-15C, Mig-29, Su-27 and Su-25. 5/4/2020 *Clarified "Hawker Nimrod" as "Hawker Siddeley Nimrod". 5/4/2020 *Removed Canberra as Razbam might make that as possible future module. 5/4/2020. I've read through every post here and annotated every aircraft guess mentioned, as well as cross checked hints. Here's a list of everything it could be. Sources: *All aircraft being made by 3rd parties have been removed from list* *"It's mind melting"* source - Wags/Nineline/somebodyofficial *"It's not a World War 2 or earlier aircraft"* source - Nineline *"It's already been mentioned in this thread"* source - Nineline 4/15/2020 *"Su-35 not in development"* - EagleDynamics *"Ka-52 not in development"* - EagleDynamics 4/15/2020 *"Here is what we know, It's not WW2, probably not a bomber, it's not the F4, or C130, it isn't old, but it isnt as new as to NOW. It's a challenge to fly, and is a milestone."* source -ED tester **NEW**"The module is all new, I'll give you that. -Nineline 5/3/2020 Most likely candidate due to WIP pictures from last decade: AH-64 Apache Possible "Mind Melting": A-4 Skyhawk A-6 Intruder B-1B Lancer CH-47 Chinook E-2 Hawkeye E-3 Sentry EA-6B Prowler F/A-18 E/F/G Hornet F-104 Starfighter F-105 Thundercheif F-111 Aardvark F-117 Nighthawk English Electric Lightning Hawker Siddeley Nimrod J-15 Flanker-X2 KC-130 Hercules KC-135 Stratotanker Mig-25 Foxbat Mig-31 Foxhound Mig-35 Fulcrum F Panavia Tornado Saab 35 Draken Sepecat Jaguar Su-22 Fitter Su-24 Fencer Su-30 Flanker Su-34 Flanker Su-37 Flanker TU-22 Backfire UH-60 Blackhawk/Seahawk V-22 Osprey The MiG-29K was also mentioned several times in the thread and probably more realistic than the MiG-35 in your list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikaros Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Hey Ikaros, I can't see NineLine statements like this, can you share where you take the information from? The ED discord channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toposky Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 ED hints? The MiG-29K was also mentioned several times in the thread and probably more realistic than the MiG-35 in your list. Hello gentlemen, first post here just to share something I noticed in the last video from ED...... is it a superhornet standing at the end of the video? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hip3rion Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Hi, Round air intake, it's the good ol' bug ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toposky Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Hi, Round air intake, it's the good ol' bug ;) yes..... too good to be true .... I need better glasses:megalol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngreenaway Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 *Updated* 5/4/2020 Sources: *All aircraft being made by 3rd parties have been removed from list* Possible "Mind Melting": A-4 Skyhawk A-6 Intruder B-1B Lancer CH-47 Chinook E-2 Hawkeye E-3 Sentry EA-6B Prowler F/A-18 E/F/G Hornet F-104 Starfighter F-105 Thundercheif F-111 Aardvark F-117 Nighthawk English Electric Lightning Hawker Siddeley Nimrod J-15 Flanker-X2 KC-130 Hercules KC-135 Stratotanker Mig-25 Foxbat Mig-31 Foxhound Mig-35 Fulcrum F Panavia Tornado Saab 35 Draken Sepecat Jaguar Su-22 Fitter Su-24 Fencer Su-30 Flanker Su-34 Flanker Su-37 Flanker TU-22 Backfire UH-60 Blackhawk/Seahawk V-22 Osprey You can probably strike the ee lightning from the list, as it now appears to be one of many Raz has in the pipeline [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] DCS: The most expensive free game you'll ever play Modules: All of them System: I9-9900k, ROG Maximus , 32gb ram, RTX2070 Founder's Edition, t16000,hotas, pedals & cougar MFD, HP Reverb 1.2, HTC VIVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlikwin Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) Once you make comparison between the first F-16 and Mig-29 what makes F-16 better in terms of the displays and situational awareness? I am not talking about the view from the cockpit - most likely there is no jet in history to be comparable and never will be as with stealth, pilots are going back deeper into the plane. I remember even descriptions that early Vipers were even unable to fire BVR missiles. Thus it depends on what version do you pick - although Russia is clearly behind in general development. Anyway F-111 would be quite a shock for me and maybe (if there would be chance to get reasonably well made product even as an early access) just maybe reason to buy it even at full price. Trouble is in neverending lack of the dynamic campaign and proliferation of the Fox-3 capable birds - online F-111 could be easily in the world of troubles as there is almost nothing from her real world. But give me a vote - and I would go for it. I mean the original Vipers were pretty limited, nothing like the Block50 we have. The F16A's were very Analog. And for the most part no BVR missiles (yes a few later versions had em I know), but for the USAF were pure fox2 birds till the C models with AAMRAMs. No fancy MFD's etc. F16A pit Versus the early Mig29's that could fire off 2 R27's. And had the HOBS R-73's Edited May 15, 2020 by Harlikwin New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaeagle Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) I mean the original Vipers were pretty limited, nothing like the Block50 we have. The F16A's were very Analog. And for the most part no BVR missiles (yes a few later versions had em I know).. Yes and I think it was actually just one F-16A version(the ADF) operated by the ANG(Air National Guard) that got modified for deploying the Sparrow missile. ..but for the USAF were pure fox2 birds till the C models with AAMRAMs. No fancy MFD's etc. Yes but even the C versions had no AMRAAMs to begin with, since the first C variant came along around 1986, while AMRAAMs weren't operational until 1991-92 and many C's were in fact flying without any BVR missiles well into the nineties. Versus the early Mig29's that could fire off 2 R27's. And had the HOBS R-77's Well the MiG-29 in your photo is not really an early MiG-29(9-12), but rather a 9-13, which appeared in 1986-87 and as such actually completely contemporary with the F-16C(Block 25). It didn't have R-77 compatibility - this only came with the 9-13S(MiG-29S) modification(radar upgrade) in the early nineties. But yes - its actually a little funny that exactly BVR capability is one of the F-16 attributes often cited as superior compared to the MiG-29, when to begin with it was actually the other way around :) . Edited May 15, 2020 by Seaeagle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlikwin Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) Yes and I think it was actually just one F-16A version(the ADF) operated by the ANG(Air National Guard) that got modified for deploying the Sparrow missile. Yes but even the C versions had no AMRAAMs to begin with, since the first C variant came along around 1986, while AMRAAMs weren't operational until 1991-92 and many C's were in fact flying without any BVR missiles well into the nineties. Well the MiG-29 in your photo is not really an early MiG-29(9-12), but rather a 9-13, which appeared in 1986-87 and as such actually completely contemporary with the F-16C(Block 25). It didn't have R-77 compatibility - this only came with the 9-13S(MiG-29S) modification(radar upgrade) in the early nineties. But yes - its actually a little funny that exactly BVR capability is one of the F-16 attributes often cited as superior compared to the MiG-29, when to begin with it was actually the other way around :) . Yeah, I thought some of the Euro exports got Aim-7's too for some reason. And the NG versions with them were rather late too IIRC (after the first C's came out?). Right the 9-12 didn't have the "repeater for the radar" only hud based, but it still could use R-27's. And yeah, the A's were very limited at first, excellent cheap "dogfighters" to go against hordes of mig21's. With some secondary ground attack capabilities, which then got upgraded, then the radars got upgraded, then the missiles, then the AG suites again etc. etc. At any rate, I would love it if ED at some point did a early block F16A and 9.12 mig-29... That would be some hella fun 80's dogfight action. Edited May 15, 2020 by Harlikwin New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaeagle Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Yeah, I thought some of the Euro exports got Aim-7's too for some reason. And the NG versions with them were rather late too IIRC (after the first C's came out?). Yes I believe so - late eighties I think. IIRC some of them(F-16A ADFs) were sold on to Egypt at a later point. Right the 9-12 didn't have the "repeater for the radar" only hud based, but it still could use R-27's. Hehe no mate - thats a MiG-23 cockpit. The MiG-29 9-12 cockpit looks practically identically to the 9-13 pit(in your previous post) and also has the HDD. But you can quickly tell them apart by two items - the 9.13 pit has a small ECM control panel below the AOA/G-meter and the fuel gauge has increased range on the tape and an extra light for wing drop tanks. At any rate, I would love it if ED at some point did a early block F16A and 9.12 mig-29... That would be some hella fun 80's dogfight action. Well we already have the 9-12, but I agree that it would be cool to have a contemporary F-16A - e.g. Block 15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlikwin Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Yes I believe so - late eighties I think. IIRC some of them(F-16A ADFs) were sold on to Egypt at a later point. Hehe no mate - thats a MiG-23 cockpit. The MiG-29 9-12 cockpit looks practically identically to the 9-13 pit(in your previous post) and also has the HDD. But you can quickly tell them apart by two items - the 9.13 pit has a small ECM control panel below the AOA/G-meter and the fuel gauge has increased range on the tape and an extra light for wing drop tanks. Well we already have the 9-12, but I agree that it would be cool to have a contemporary F-16A - e.g. Block 15. The image caption says mig29, but I did think it look odd. :megalol: google lied to me. New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaeagle Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 The image caption says mig29, but I did think it look odd. :megalol: google lied to me. LOL....yeah it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikaros Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 *Updated* 5/17/2020 *Removed F-22/F-35/Rafale/Gripen from list as most** fly by wire aircraft surely can't be a "challenge" to fly. 4/29/2020 *Removed C-130. 4/29/2020 *Added Grumman A-6 Intruder as I'm unsure if Heatblur will develop it. 4/29/2020 *Removed Yak-38 Forger. 5/1/2020 *Removed F-15C, Mig-29, Su-27 and Su-25. 5/4/2020 *Clarified "Hawker Nimrod" as "Hawker Siddeley Nimrod". 5/4/2020 *Removed Canberra as Razbam might make that as possible future module. 5/4/2020. **NEW** Removed EE Lightning as Razbam might make that into full module. 5/17/2020 **NEW** Removed Su-34 as it's confirmed it's not the upcoming new module. 5/17/2020 I've read through every post here and annotated every aircraft guess mentioned, as well as cross checked hints. Here's a list of everything it could be. Sources: *All aircraft being made by 3rd parties have been removed from list* *"It's mind melting"* source - Wags/Nineline/somebodyofficial *"It's not a World War 2 or earlier aircraft"* source - Nineline *"It's already been mentioned in this thread"* source - Nineline 4/15/2020 *"Su-35 not in development"* - EagleDynamics *"Ka-52 not in development"* - EagleDynamics 4/15/2020 *"Here is what we know, It's not WW2, probably not a bomber, it's not the F4, or C130, it isn't old, but it isnt as new as to NOW. It's a challenge to fly, and is a milestone."* source -ED tester "The module is all new, I'll give you that." -Nineline 5/3/2020 **NEW**"The new module isn't the Su-34" - BigNewy 5/16/2020 Most likely candidate due to WIP pictures from last decade: AH-64 Apache Possible "Mind Melting": A-4 Skyhawk A-6 Intruder B-1B Lancer CH-47 Chinook E-2 Hawkeye E-3 Sentry EA-6B Prowler F/A-18 E/F/G Hornet F-104 Starfighter F-105 Thundercheif F-111 Aardvark F-117 Nighthawk Hawker Siddeley Nimrod J-15 Flanker-X2 KC-130 Hercules KC-135 Stratotanker Mig-25 Foxbat Mig-31 Foxhound Mig-35 Fulcrum F Panavia Tornado Saab 35 Draken Sepecat Jaguar Su-22 Fitter Su-24 Fencer Su-30 Flanker Su-37 Flanker TU-22 Backfire UH-60 Blackhawk/Seahawk V-22 Osprey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SovietAce Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 *Updated* 5/17/2020 *Removed F-22/F-35/Rafale/Gripen from list as most** fly by wire aircraft surely can't be a "challenge" to fly. 4/29/2020 *Removed C-130. 4/29/2020 *Added Grumman A-6 Intruder as I'm unsure if Heatblur will develop it. 4/29/2020 *Removed Yak-38 Forger. 5/1/2020 *Removed F-15C, Mig-29, Su-27 and Su-25. 5/4/2020 *Clarified "Hawker Nimrod" as "Hawker Siddeley Nimrod". 5/4/2020 *Removed Canberra as Razbam might make that as possible future module. 5/4/2020. **NEW** Removed EE Lightning as Razbam might make that into full module. 5/17/2020 **NEW** Removed Su-34 as it's confirmed it's not the upcoming new module. 5/17/2020 I've read through every post here and annotated every aircraft guess mentioned, as well as cross checked hints. Here's a list of everything it could be. Sources: *All aircraft being made by 3rd parties have been removed from list* *"It's mind melting"* source - Wags/Nineline/somebodyofficial *"It's not a World War 2 or earlier aircraft"* source - Nineline *"It's already been mentioned in this thread"* source - Nineline 4/15/2020 *"Su-35 not in development"* - EagleDynamics *"Ka-52 not in development"* - EagleDynamics 4/15/2020 *"Here is what we know, It's not WW2, probably not a bomber, it's not the F4, or C130, it isn't old, but it isnt as new as to NOW. It's a challenge to fly, and is a milestone."* source -ED tester "The module is all new, I'll give you that." -Nineline 5/3/2020 **NEW**"The new module isn't the Su-34" - BigNewy 5/16/2020 Most likely candidate due to WIP pictures from last decade: AH-64 Apache Possible "Mind Melting": A-4 Skyhawk A-6 Intruder B-1B Lancer CH-47 Chinook E-2 Hawkeye E-3 Sentry EA-6B Prowler F/A-18 E/F/G Hornet F-104 Starfighter F-105 Thundercheif F-111 Aardvark F-117 Nighthawk Hawker Siddeley Nimrod J-15 Flanker-X2 KC-130 Hercules KC-135 Stratotanker Mig-25 Foxbat Mig-31 Foxhound Mig-35 Fulcrum F Panavia Tornado Saab 35 Draken Sepecat Jaguar Su-22 Fitter Su-24 Fencer Su-30 Flanker Su-37 Flanker TU-22 Backfire UH-60 Blackhawk/Seahawk V-22 Osprey Well Its starting to seem that we wont get modern Russian/Soviet module after all. So if the new module isnt Su-22, Su-24 or MiG-25, I dont think I could care much about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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