Eagerly awaited aircraft for DCS World

[Ikaros]

*Updated* 4/29/2020

 

*Removed F-22/F-35/Rafale/Gripen from list as most** fly by wire aircraft surely can't be a "challenge" to fly. 4/29/2020

*Removed C-130. 4/29/2020

*Added Grumman A-6 Intruder as I'm unsure if Heatblur will develop it. 4/29/2020

 

I've read through every post here and annotated every aircraft guess mentioned, as well as cross checked hints. Here's a list of everything it could be.

 

Sources:

*All aircraft being made by 3rd parties have been removed from list*

*"It's mind melting"* source - Wags/Nineline/somebodyofficial

*"It's not a World War 2 or earlier aircraft"* source - Nineline

*"It's already been mentioned in this thread"* source - Nineline 4/15/2020

*"Su-35 not in development"* - EagleDynamics

*"Ka-52 not in development"* - EagleDynamics 4/15/2020

**NEW**"Here is what we know, It's not WW2, probably not a bomber, it's not the F4, or C130, it isn't old, but it isnt as new as to NOW. It's a challenge to fly, and is a milestone."* source -ED tester

 

Most likely candidate due to WIP pictures from last decade:

AH-64 Apache

 

Possible "Mind Melting":

 

A-4 Skyhawk

A-6 Intruder

B-1B Lancer

B-57 Canberra

CH-47 Chinook

E-2 Hawkeye

E-3 Sentry

EA-6B Prowler

F-15C Eagle

F/A-18 E/F/G Hornet

F-104 Starfighter

F-105 Thundercheif

F-111 Aardvark

F-117 Nighthawk

English Electric Lightning

Hawker Nimrod

J-15 Flanker-X2

KC-130 Hercules

KC-135 Stratotanker

Mig-25 Foxbat

Mig-29 Fulcrum

Mig-31 Foxhound

Mig-35 Fulcrum F

Panavia Tornado

Saab 35 Draken

Sepecat Jaguar

Su-22 Fitter

Su-24 Fencer

Su-25 Frogfoot

Su-27 Flanker

Su-30 Flanker

Su-34 Flanker

Su-37 Flanker

TU-22 Backfire

UH-60 Blackhawk/Seahawk

V-22 Osprey

Edited April 30, 2020 by Ikaros

[AeriaGloria]

Good list but I don’t think J-15 will happen for a long time, Deka has confirmed AI j-15/Liaoning however

[Ikaros]

Good list but I don’t think J-15 will happen for a long time, Deka has confirmed AI j-15/Liaoning however

 

I understand but Eagle Dynamics said the aircraft was mentioned in this thread, so I can't rule anything out yet.

[MiG21bisFishbedL]

Their supposed ease of operation is hardly the most damning case against a DCS: F-22 or DCS: F-35.

[Tom Kazansky]

Is the Shenyang J-11 not in the list bc it "is" a Su-27 more than a J-15 "is" a Su-33 in any way?

[Gierasimov]

Interesting

 

I understand but Eagle Dynamics said the aircraft was mentioned in this thread, so I can't rule anything out yet.

 

Where did 9Line / ED mention this?

[Kang]

I understand but Eagle Dynamics said the aircraft was mentioned in this thread, so I can't rule anything out yet.

I love how you take that to mean specifically that one out of the approximately 1500 types the thread also mentioned.

[Tomas9970]

Here's a source stating that it's going to be complex:

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4200775&postcount=237

 

I also decided to put the "not single pilot friendly" back into the main list because there are aircrafts like that in game or in development.

 

My new best candidate in this is the F-117 because it's notorious for being very hard to fly. Making it's flight model would be a huge milestone as well as modeling it's stealthiness.

 

Here is my updated reduced list:

A-4 Skyhawk

English Electric Lightning

F-104 Starfighter

F-117 Nighthawk

Sepecat Jaguar

F-111 Aardvark

 

Old/long out of service:

F-105 Thundercheif

Saab 35 Draken

B-57 Canberra

 

not hard to fly:

Dassault Rafale

F-22A Raptor

F-35A Lightning II

Saab JAS-39 Gripen

 

 

requires multicrew:

B-1B Lancer

C-130 Hercules

E-2 Hawkeye

E-3 Sentry

EA-6B Prowler

KC-130 Hercules

KC-135 Stratotanker

Panavia Tornado

 

Russian or similar:

J-15 Flanker-X2

Mig-25 Foxbat

Mig-29 Fulcrum

Mig-31 Foxhound

Mig-35 Fulcrum F

Su-22 Fitter

Su-24 Fencer

Su-25 Frogfoot

Su-27 Flanker

Su-30 Flanker

Su-34 Flanker

Su-37 Flanker

TU-22 Backfire

 

not fixed wing:

CH-47 Chinook

UH-60 Blackhawk/Seahawk

V-22 Osprey

 

World war II or earlier:

Hawker Nimrod

 

similar to what we have:

F-15C Eagle

F/A-18 E/F/G Hornet

Edited April 30, 2020 by Tomas9970
better link

[Tom Kazansky]

and J-11

[Mr. Big.Biggs]

How can it be the F117. Didn't they say it was multi crew?

[Gierasimov]

No,

 

How can it be the F117. Didn't they say it was multi crew?

 

I never seen them mentioning it was multi crew, frankly I hope it is not, unless with single player attitude (solid AI RIO/WSO).

[schroedi]

In my mind A-4 Skyhawk, English Electric Lightning and F-104 Starfighter are old, too.

[Gierasimov]

Exactly right

 

In my mind A-4 Skyhawk, English Electric Lightning and F-104 Starfighter are old, too.

 

Yeah, there is enough old aircraft already.

I dream of red jet, but if it is blue rotary I hope SH-60 before AH-64.

[Tomas9970]

Original designs of the F-104 and A-4 are old but these planes were upgraded and retired remotely recently (Let's say after 1990 is considered relatively modern). I agree that the Lightning needs to go from the list.

[Tomas9970]

How can it be the F117. Didn't they say it was multi crew?

I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere but their history shows the opposite. That's why I ruled out aircrafts that absolutely need multi crew to operate.

Edited April 30, 2020 by Tomas9970

[SovietAce]

I seriously hoping for some Soviet/Russian jet. Perhaps MiG-25 :D

${1}

[Mr. Big.Biggs]

I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere but their history shows the opposite. That's why I ruled out aircrafts that absolutely need multi crew to operate.

 

My bad. Thought the reason everyone first said “yep, its the Phantom “ was because the original post said “eagerly awaited multi crew”??

Been wrong before...

Regards

[Harlikwin]

My bad. Thought the reason everyone first said “yep, its the Phantom “ was because the original post said “eagerly awaited multi crew”??

Been wrong before...

Regards

 

The phantom is delayed due this mystery module so pretty safe to assume its not a phantom. I still want a phantom tho.

[Harlikwin]

Given the recent discussions around projects pipeline and roadmap for current modules, I now feel that the 'secret project', is still not decided upon in terms of what it will be, and that, coupled with when it would be possibly started makes the announcement wait less exciting now.

 

Best sekrit project surprise would be finish existing modules really.

[Ikaros]

Best sekrit project surprise would be finish existing modules really.

 

Wrong thread for that sentiment.

[Ikaros]

*Updated* 5/1/2020

 

*Removed F-22/F-35/Rafale/Gripen from list as most** fly by wire aircraft surely can't be a "challenge" to fly. 4/29/2020

*Removed C-130. 4/29/2020

*Added Grumman A-6 Intruder as I'm unsure if Heatblur will develop it. 4/29/2020

**NEW**Added Yak-38 Forger as it was missing from earlier lists. 5/1/2020

 

I've read through every post here and annotated every aircraft guess mentioned, as well as cross checked hints. Here's a list of everything it could be.

 

Sources:

*All aircraft being made by 3rd parties have been removed from list*

*"It's mind melting"* source - Wags/Nineline/somebodyofficial

*"It's not a World War 2 or earlier aircraft"* source - Nineline

*"It's already been mentioned in this thread"* source - Nineline 4/15/2020

*"Su-35 not in development"* - EagleDynamics

*"Ka-52 not in development"* - EagleDynamics 4/15/2020

**NEW**"Here is what we know, It's not WW2, probably not a bomber, it's not the F4, or C130, it isn't old, but it isnt as new as to NOW. It's a challenge to fly, and is a milestone."* source -ED tester

 

Most likely candidate due to WIP pictures from last decade:

AH-64 Apache

 

Possible "Mind Melting":

 

A-4 Skyhawk

A-6 Intruder

B-1B Lancer

B-57 Canberra

CH-47 Chinook

E-2 Hawkeye

E-3 Sentry

EA-6B Prowler

F-15C Eagle

F/A-18 E/F/G Hornet

F-104 Starfighter

F-105 Thundercheif

F-111 Aardvark

F-117 Nighthawk

English Electric Lightning

Hawker Nimrod

J-15 Flanker-X2

KC-130 Hercules

KC-135 Stratotanker

Mig-25 Foxbat

Mig-29 Fulcrum

Mig-31 Foxhound

Mig-35 Fulcrum F

Panavia Tornado

Saab 35 Draken

Sepecat Jaguar

Su-22 Fitter

Su-24 Fencer

Su-25 Frogfoot

Su-27 Flanker

Su-30 Flanker

Su-34 Flanker

Su-37 Flanker

TU-22 Backfire

UH-60 Blackhawk/Seahawk

V-22 Osprey

Yak-38 Forger

[schroedi]

You can delete all planes which haven't been mentioned before Nineline confirmed that it is already in the thread, so definitly no Yak-38.

[Ikaros]

You can delete all planes which haven't been mentioned before Nineline confirmed that it is already in the thread, so definitly no Yak-38.

 

Will do.

[Ikaros]

*Updated* 5/1/2020

 

*Removed F-22/F-35/Rafale/Gripen from list as most** fly by wire aircraft surely can't be a "challenge" to fly. 4/29/2020

*Removed C-130. 4/29/2020

*Added Grumman A-6 Intruder as I'm unsure if Heatblur will develop it. 4/29/2020

**NEW**Removed Yak-38 Forger. 5/1/2020

 

I've read through every post here and annotated every aircraft guess mentioned, as well as cross checked hints. Here's a list of everything it could be.

 

Sources:

*All aircraft being made by 3rd parties have been removed from list*

*"It's mind melting"* source - Wags/Nineline/somebodyofficial

*"It's not a World War 2 or earlier aircraft"* source - Nineline

*"It's already been mentioned in this thread"* source - Nineline 4/15/2020

*"Su-35 not in development"* - EagleDynamics

*"Ka-52 not in development"* - EagleDynamics 4/15/2020

*"Here is what we know, It's not WW2, probably not a bomber, it's not the F4, or C130, it isn't old, but it isnt as new as to NOW. It's a challenge to fly, and is a milestone."* source -ED tester

 

Most likely candidate due to WIP pictures from last decade:

AH-64 Apache

 

Possible "Mind Melting":

 

A-4 Skyhawk

A-6 Intruder

B-1B Lancer

B-57 Canberra

CH-47 Chinook

E-2 Hawkeye

E-3 Sentry

EA-6B Prowler

F-15C Eagle

F/A-18 E/F/G Hornet

F-104 Starfighter

F-105 Thundercheif

F-111 Aardvark

F-117 Nighthawk

English Electric Lightning

Hawker Nimrod

J-15 Flanker-X2

KC-130 Hercules

KC-135 Stratotanker

Mig-25 Foxbat

Mig-29 Fulcrum

Mig-31 Foxhound

Mig-35 Fulcrum F

Panavia Tornado

Saab 35 Draken

Sepecat Jaguar

Su-22 Fitter

Su-24 Fencer

Su-25 Frogfoot

Su-27 Flanker

Su-30 Flanker

Su-34 Flanker

Su-37 Flanker

TU-22 Backfire

UH-60 Blackhawk/Seahawk

V-22 Osprey

[MiG21bisFishbedL]

If the two 5th Genners and the two 4th gen Eurocanards are out, how come the -117 is in, still? It's a fly-by-wire aircraft, too. And, it wasn't at all difficult to fly as per its pilots.

 

https://www.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/1499939/remembering-the-f-117-nighthawk/

 

“I think we all recognized that this was something historic,” he said. “We retired an airplane that people still reference today. We really understood that so it was a sentimental flight to say the least. It was a great weapon system, very stable and easy to fly. It’s still a memorable experience.”

 

After all, it's a FBW aircraft. The claims of its difficulty of handling probably come out of certain pieces of media that failed to differ between the F-117A and the Have Blue.