Svsmokey Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 What cooler? Thx 9700k @ stock , Aorus Pro Z390 wifi , 32gb 3200 mhz CL16 , 1tb EVO 970 , MSI RX 6800XT Gaming X TRIO , Seasonic Prime 850w Gold , Coolermaster H500m , Noctua NH-D15S , CH Pro throttle and T50CM2/WarBrD base on Foxxmounts , CH pedals , Reverb G2v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon_ Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Him... :D Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregP Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 For DCS though, what’s the point? On most reasonably modern systems DCS is heavily GPU-limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svsmokey Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 For DCS though, what’s the point? On most reasonably modern systems DCS is heavily GPU-limited. Not what i'm reading . 9700k @ stock , Aorus Pro Z390 wifi , 32gb 3200 mhz CL16 , 1tb EVO 970 , MSI RX 6800XT Gaming X TRIO , Seasonic Prime 850w Gold , Coolermaster H500m , Noctua NH-D15S , CH Pro throttle and T50CM2/WarBrD base on Foxxmounts , CH pedals , Reverb G2v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregP Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 I guess i should’ve mentioned that at 1440 and 4K, which I presume most DCS users are running, it’s likely GPU-limited. At 1080 though, I could see CPU being more relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelina1 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 https://noctua.at/en/nh-d15 MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svsmokey Posted February 23, 2020 Author Share Posted February 23, 2020 https://noctua.at/en/nh-d15 Yeah , Noctua is what i'm looking at...thx 9700k @ stock , Aorus Pro Z390 wifi , 32gb 3200 mhz CL16 , 1tb EVO 970 , MSI RX 6800XT Gaming X TRIO , Seasonic Prime 850w Gold , Coolermaster H500m , Noctua NH-D15S , CH Pro throttle and T50CM2/WarBrD base on Foxxmounts , CH pedals , Reverb G2v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon_ Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 I think that best air cooler are, in order: http://www.prolimatech.com/en/ http://thermalright.com/ https://noctua.at/ Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Yeah , Noctua is what i'm looking at...thx Me too, my cpu is still shipping or I had hoped to get my new pc built this weekend ????, but the cool differences between water and nh-d15 seem marginal, even jayz was impressed and linus. So if you are going air then, yep then you will have company with your nh-d15. Regarding cpu vs gpu, I'm certainly cpu locked on my current platform so I'm hoping that the upgrade will make a difference... We shall see fingers crossed! SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Me too, my cpu is still shipping or I had hoped to get my new pc built this weekend ????, but the cool differences between water and nh-d15 seem marginal, even jayz was impressed and linus. So if you are going air then, yep then you will have company with your nh-d15. Regarding cpu vs gpu, I'm certainly cpu locked on my current platform so I'm hoping that the upgrade will make a difference... We shall see fingers crossed! Water and DH-15, You should better say 240er AIO's and NH15 are on par, that is about true. Once you leave the comfort zone of past, standard TDP's, where you would not pull more than say 100-175w but end up easily between 200-300w I don't see a future for Air Cooling unless the Thermosyphon gets released and can cope with that. Even if they ( Air cooling of any form ) do cope with it, they dump all that hot air into the case. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_sukebe Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Check my sig. I have a 9700 with a 1080. My 9700 is running stock and never maxed out, it's most certainly the 1080 that's my bottleneck. System: 9700, 64GB DDR4, 2070S, NVME2, Rift S, Jetseat, Thrustmaster F18 grip, VPC T50 stick base and throttle, CH Throttle, MFG crosswinds, custom button box, Logitech G502 and Marble mouse. Server: i5 2500@3.9Ghz, 1080, 24GB DDR3, SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svsmokey Posted February 23, 2020 Author Share Posted February 23, 2020 Water and DH-15, You should better say 240er AIO's and NH15 are on par, that is about true. Once you leave the comfort zone of past, standard TDP's, where you would not pull more than say 100-175w but end up easily between 200-300w I don't see a future for Air Cooling unless the Thermosyphon gets released and can cope with that. Even if they ( Air cooling of any form ) do cope with it, they dump all that hot air into the case. Thank you . That's precisely why i want a 9700k vs 10700k . And good point re case . I'm on it :) Check my sig. I have a 9700 with a 1080. My 9700 is running stock and never maxed out, it's most certainly the 1080 that's my bottleneck. Thanks for that . Point taken . I plan to drive a 3070 with the new cpu . 9700k @ stock , Aorus Pro Z390 wifi , 32gb 3200 mhz CL16 , 1tb EVO 970 , MSI RX 6800XT Gaming X TRIO , Seasonic Prime 850w Gold , Coolermaster H500m , Noctua NH-D15S , CH Pro throttle and T50CM2/WarBrD base on Foxxmounts , CH pedals , Reverb G2v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svsmokey Posted February 23, 2020 Author Share Posted February 23, 2020 Me too, my cpu is still shipping or I had hoped to get my new pc built this weekend ????, but the cool differences between water and nh-d15 seem marginal, even jayz was impressed and linus. So if you are going air then, yep then you will have company with your nh-d15. Regarding cpu vs gpu, I'm certainly cpu locked on my current platform so I'm hoping that the upgrade will make a difference... We shall see fingers crossed! Good luck with the build ! 9700k @ stock , Aorus Pro Z390 wifi , 32gb 3200 mhz CL16 , 1tb EVO 970 , MSI RX 6800XT Gaming X TRIO , Seasonic Prime 850w Gold , Coolermaster H500m , Noctua NH-D15S , CH Pro throttle and T50CM2/WarBrD base on Foxxmounts , CH pedals , Reverb G2v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelina1 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Check my sig. I have a 9700 with a 1080. My 9700 is running stock and never maxed out, it's most certainly the 1080 that's my bottleneck. same here, I'm still using a 1080 with my 9700k. I'd love to have a 2080ti, but I refuse to pay the nVidia extortion rates... some day I'll upgrade the GPU. MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Good luck with the build ! Thanks, my CPU is still in Holland :( according to parcel tracking ... NVM(should be here next week :( )... For a case i went with I have a Corsair 680X Case with full load of fans (3x120 front. 2 x 140 top, 2 x 140 bottom and 120 back, in pull through config) if that doesn't keep it provide enough airflow ... not sure what else i can do :) SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svsmokey Posted February 23, 2020 Author Share Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) Thanks, my CPU is still in Holland :( according to parcel tracking ... NVM(should be here next week :( )... For a case i went with I have a Corsair 680X Case with full load of fans (3x120 front. 2 x 140 top, 2 x 140 bottom and 120 back, in pull through config) if that doesn't keep it provide enough airflow ... not sure what else i can do :) I'll have to check that case . Thx (Edit) Ouch ! Edited February 23, 2020 by Svsmokey 9700k @ stock , Aorus Pro Z390 wifi , 32gb 3200 mhz CL16 , 1tb EVO 970 , MSI RX 6800XT Gaming X TRIO , Seasonic Prime 850w Gold , Coolermaster H500m , Noctua NH-D15S , CH Pro throttle and T50CM2/WarBrD base on Foxxmounts , CH pedals , Reverb G2v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 thx :) you too when you get there! SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Nice tower ! The only thing I never liked from Corsair is their thin steel. For that price I could expect a sturdy tower like a Chieftec was back in the days. Unfortunately no vendor meanwhile has such quality. Hey, they now have RGB ! Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 quality is pretty good i have to say :) ... CPU is arriving Wednesday :( SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerFangzahn Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Water and DH-15, You should better say 240er AIO's and NH15 are on par, that is about true. Once you leave the comfort zone of past, standard TDP's, where you would not pull more than say 100-175w but end up easily between 200-300w I don't see a future for Air Cooling unless the Thermosyphon gets released and can cope with that. Even if they ( Air cooling of any form ) do cope with it, they dump all that hot air into the case. Under normal gaming load 200-300w will not be hit. Only during stress tests with an 9900k on 5GHz+. So I dont see a problem using a quality air cooler over water for daily use. Casefans help with the hot in air in the case. :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 (edited) Cpu arrived and built, the case was easy to build in and is pretty as a picture. The air flow in the case is fine, but the glass front panel, not the side panel, kind makes you run hotter than you need to, and I am considering removing it. That with my fan arrangement, the 9700k easily clocks at 5.0ghz on air, running prime 95, I got a max temp under full load of 85c and the average load was 75c, playing dcs it really doesn't break 68. I suspect the case front panel costs me about 5-10c degrees in temp, mostly because of the airflow. But it's so pretty... :) Knowing what I know now if I were spending the same again I would probably go with a different case. But it is so pretty... And I have just started saving for the graphics card upgrade... As that is where I am now blocked as Mr_sukebe, observed, it's fine, my goal was to get my cpu cycles steady under 11ms frame rate and it easily crushes that. So mission complete, mostly happy... Now just that front panel... But it's pretty... Edited February 29, 2020 by speed-of-heat SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svsmokey Posted February 29, 2020 Author Share Posted February 29, 2020 Thanks for the report ! 9700k @ stock , Aorus Pro Z390 wifi , 32gb 3200 mhz CL16 , 1tb EVO 970 , MSI RX 6800XT Gaming X TRIO , Seasonic Prime 850w Gold , Coolermaster H500m , Noctua NH-D15S , CH Pro throttle and T50CM2/WarBrD base on Foxxmounts , CH pedals , Reverb G2v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toutenglisse Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 ... I suspect the case front panel costs me about 5-10c degrees in temp, mostly because of the airflow. But it's so pretty... :) ... I confirm I had 10°c loss when opened case and put filter in front of cpu cooling radiator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wali763 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Hi. Ive got a 9600K and not a 9700K, so two cores less. I do use a Noctua NH-D15S. Yesterday I did some OCing, since I wanted to know, what the max power-draw of my system is. So I had Prime95 run with and without AVX. Additionally for some time also Furmark to stress the GPU. Since I have a AVX-Offset of 3, I did 4,7Ghz allcore with AVX and 5,0Ghz without AVX. Temps went up to a max of 86deg, but usually were aroud 80deg. With 5Ghz I ran into some problems though since one instance in Prime95 (worker) stopped working. That was with the System already warm and after 2hrs of running Prime95 with AVX. But I dont think, this would a problem with DCS, since loads are not that high by far. Also dont think, this was due to not enough cooling. My system powerdraw was with my videocard also at max powerlimit (111% => ~240W) was 430W. Normally during DCS its around 300W. After the test, reset my CPU to default-values since right now, OCing does not help in DCS, since ist GPU-limited; at least according to my tests. https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4193266&postcount=56 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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