Flummi Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 @BIGNEWY: Open Beta will be patched at July 15. Does that mean that stable Version will be patched in 2 month (August?) next time? PC: Intel Core i7-12700K| Gigabyte Z690 Gaming X DDR4| 2x 32GB DDR4 Kingston Fury Beast (KF436C18BBAK2/64)| PowerColor RX 6800 XT Red Devil| 3x SSD-Drive (one for DCS only)| 3x HDD-Drive| Cougar Panzer Max| custom water cooling| Fedora Linux| Windows 11| Gear: Meta Quest 3| Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS| MFG Crosswind v2| Leap motion controller| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=273255 says to be announced or similar... SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted June 16, 2020 Author ED Team Share Posted June 16, 2020 @BIGNEWY: Open Beta will be patched at July 15. Does that mean that stable Version will be patched in 2 month (August?) next time? No, we will let you know about the next stable update once we are sure. thank you Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyIceChest Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Super excited for the Syria map. Hopefully we get a Jordanian skin for the F16! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airhunter Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Wait, 15th July? You do realize you cant even read most displays or indicator lights in most planes currently? Oh that's right, you don't care about 3rd party developers. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirrah Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Hopefully we get a Jordanian skin for the F16! Don't get your hopes up for that. Jordan is flying totally different F-16's than ED's Viper You'll probably want to download a user made skin System specs: i7-8700K @stock speed - GTX 1080TI @ stock speed - AsRock Extreme4 Z370 - 32GB DDR4 @3GHz- 500GB SSD - 2TB nvme - 650W PSU HP Reverb G1 v2 - Saitek Pro pedals - TM Warthog HOTAS - TM F/A-18 Grip - TM Cougar HOTAS (NN-Dan mod) & (throttle standalone mod) - VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus with ALPHA-L grip - Pointctrl & aux banks <-- must have for VR users!! - Andre's SimShaker Jetpad - Fully adjustable DIY playseat - VA+VAICOM ~ That nuke might not have been the best of ideas, Sir... the enemy is furious ~ GUMMBAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngreenaway Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Don't get your hopes up for that. Jordan is flying totally different F-16's than ED's Viper You'll probably want to download a user made skin Sometimes you just have to say an f-16 is an f-16. Same with Israeli f-16s, same with Omani ones for the Hormuz map [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] DCS: The most expensive free game you'll ever play Modules: All of them System: I9-9900k, ROG Maximus , 32gb ram, RTX2070 Founder's Edition, t16000,hotas, pedals & cougar MFD, HP Reverb 1.2, HTC VIVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldur Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Ive seen similar problems too often. I once got hired as a project manager in a company making point of sale software. In that company customers literally had a direct phone line to developers (I kid you not) who where constantly asked to add features urgently. Features that the base layer often had no provisions for and that had to be shoe horned in under extreme time pressure. The software base layer was neglected and abused for 10 years because no customer ever asks to upgrade the database engine and API layer to something that is more robust and more manageable. Even an army of testers would not provide bug free stable releases in that scenario. The only solution was to stop devs answering the phone, have sales reps stop promising customers new features that weren't already in there , and lock up a team of devs in a basement with no phone and rewrite the db and APIs. I didnt manage to convince the company owners of that, they said it would hurt sales and be far too costly. They wanted to be able to bill almost every hour that their devs worked. This literally is my sneak peek into the industry. Exactly what I saw and had to experience myself. The only difference there was I was there as a trainee and they didn't employ me after I finished - and they're still running today. That hit me right within the eco crisis, leaving me completely without any persective (add health issues to that, <5% vision doesn't really help you getting anywhere) actually since I rarely ever was writing code at all as I had to do the support while being a dev officially. I literally had to learn my job in my free time, it was freakin' hard, didn't have a life at all and I barely made it through the trials. And as far as I could gather from others at that time, that literally was the industry standard in Germany. Probably still is... but well, let's not get political here, we all know very well the world is an a***, no need to discuss that here Excellent idea in principle, but that does mean we are stuck with the unreadable, sun-soaked DDIs on the Hornet for a month! And almost nonexistent HUDs in VR and hazy everfog that lets you see 5nm at best... Though I do appreciate the decision to take longer patch cycles and do more inhouse testing, but the point in time to start this literally couldn't be worse. This probably works better right after a Stable release. Maybe I'll do the no HUD CASE Is after all that Victory205 always kept recommending - in the Hornet, without even having to switch that thing off I really like the LCD MOD, you can also use it with the "dusty" cockpit MOD but the pit overwrites the LCDs (I think) and the CRT's are very reflective so may negate the benefit. Fun fact IRL CRTs almost don't reflect at all while LCDs literally are makeup mirrors (ever tried to use a mobile outside? ) unless you happen to come across a display that's not shiny and glary which almost became impossible through the last years, at least on the consumer market... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diogofalcao Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 I think you hit the nail on the head with this post. I feel at times that ED is too generous. The base game is free and continually updated so it means the only revenue is new modules / maps etc. The long term solution is to move to an X-Plane type pricing model where new versions are a pay for item. As a community we are expecting ED to develop dynamic campaigns, new clouds, lighting models and have no direct revenue for this. It doesn't make sense to me, especially for a niche product like this. It's not unreasonable to pay, say $40-$50, for DCS 3.0 to underwrite that development. Agreed, the sim is getting bigger and bigger so we need ED to focus on core features before anything else. I wouldn't mind paying 50 bucks for DCS 3.0. We all know that every company needs money and maybe that's why they are focusing on new modules so much. My vote is to charge for DCS 3.0 but that's number 1 priority. A-10C / AJS-37 / AV-8B / BF-109 / KA-50 / F-14 / F-16C / F-5E / F/A-18C / FC3 / JF-17 / F-86 / M-2000C / MiG-21bis / P-51D / Spitfire LF Mk. IX / UH-1H Huey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northstar98 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Wait, 15th July? You do realize you cant even read most displays or indicator lights in most planes currently? Oh that's right, you don't care about 3rd party developers. ;) OH SHOTS FIRED!!1! Point scoring aside, you can rollback... Feel free to call me a white knight Modules I own: F-14A/B, Mi-24P, AV-8B N/A, AJS 37, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebabil Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Will there be a patch today? FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormrider Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Will there be a patch today? No, next patch 15th of July. https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=273255 Banned by cunts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormrider Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Sometimes you just have to say an f-16 is an f-16. Same with Israeli f-16s, same with Omani ones for the Hormuz map 100% Agreed. Banned by cunts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerec Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 No, next patch 15th of July. https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=273255 What???????? Seriously??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4388369&postcount=1767, yes. Edited June 17, 2020 by speed-of-heat corrected url SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizzicato Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 What???????? Seriously??? Yes. The last couple of patches broke a lot of stuff and caused a lot of angst in the community. ED are shifting to a less frequent patch cycle so they can (hopefully) do a better job with their internal testing before releasing content to the wider community. The specific link that Speed-of-Heat was looking for is this one from BigNewy: https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4388369&postcount=1767 i7-7700K @ 4.9Ghz | 16Gb DDR4 @ 3200Mhz | MSI Z270 Gaming M7 | MSI GeForce GTX 1080ti Gaming X | Win 10 Home | Thrustmaster Warthog | MFG Crosswind pedals | Oculus Rift S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Yes. The last couple of patches broke a lot of stuff and caused a lot of angst in the community. ED are shifting to a less frequent patch cycle so they can (hopefully) do a better job with their internal testing before releasing content to the wider community. The specific link that Speed-of-Heat was looking for is this one from BigNewy: https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4388369&postcount=1767] thanks for the correction sleepy angry fingers ! SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted June 17, 2020 Author ED Team Share Posted June 17, 2020 Good morning all. The team are planning a hot fix today with some crash fixes. Hot fix 17th June Next Planned update 15th July Thank you Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 thanks SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Good news, BN. Will the hotfix just be crash fixes? Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted June 17, 2020 Author ED Team Share Posted June 17, 2020 Good news, BN. Will the hotfix just be crash fixes? I'm sure we will see some other items in the notes later today, but the focus is on some crashes and third party issues. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Thanks a lot for the quick response. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebabil Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 So viper maverick will come one month later? FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-0303- Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) Good morning all. The team are planning a hot fix today with some crash fixes. Hot fix 17th June Next Planned update 15th July Thank you I was about to say I'm not so sure a longer patch cycle will lead to better results. It would mean ED getting feedback on bugs once a month instead of every week. It would mean ED taking less advantage of the free resource of community error reporting (such as it is:unsure:). I understand there is a lot of well defined cockpit color palette errors (like the Spitfire cockpit, the Su-33 and more), the carrier deck. A continuation of this: Corrected lights in the cockpits of next aircraft: Yak-52, Su-25, Su-25T, MiG-29, A-10A, F-86F, L-39C, L-39ZA, A-10C, MiG-15bis, P-51D-25NA, P-51D-30NA, TF-51D, UH-1H, F-15C, F-5E F-15C cockpit. Warning lights animation corrected Added adaptive self-illuminating materials in the cockpit of A-10A, Su-25T, Su-25 Neither critical but annoying, was half counting on a fix this week. Seems like low hanging fruit (obvious and effortlessly repeatable). Edited June 17, 2020 by -0303- Intel Core i7 3630QM @ 2.40GHz (Max Turbo Frequency 3.40 GHz) | 16.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz | 2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GT 635M | 447GB KINGSTON SA400S37480G (SATA-2 (SSD)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebabil Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 agreed. if those patches will be too good, then it's ok. but if they will come as they are now, it will cause extreme impatience. think that, you get a patch after waiting a whole month then this patch is full of bugs and you gotta wait for another whole month FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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