sirrah Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 So the G2 is actually cheaper than the G1? G1 €630,- G2 €580,- I'm confused :huh: Am I missing something here? System specs: i7-8700K @stock speed - GTX 1080TI @ stock speed - AsRock Extreme4 Z370 - 32GB DDR4 @3GHz- 500GB SSD - 2TB nvme - 650W PSU HP Reverb G1 v2 - Saitek Pro pedals - TM Warthog HOTAS - TM F/A-18 Grip - TM Cougar HOTAS (NN-Dan mod) & (throttle standalone mod) - VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus with ALPHA-L grip - Pointctrl & aux banks <-- must have for VR users!! - Andre's SimShaker Jetpad - Fully adjustable DIY playseat - VA+VAICOM ~ That nuke might not have been the best of ideas, Sir... the enemy is furious ~ GUMMBAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Kazansky Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) So the G2 is actually cheaper than the G1? G1 €630,- G2 €580,- I'm confused :huh: Am I missing something here? no, bc you get the G1 PRO for the price of the G1 non-PRO via a promotion code on the HP site. But YES: the G2 is only 1,26 EUR more "expensive". :thumbup: So it costs (almost) the same as the G1 non-PRO! funny... Edited July 6, 2020 by Tom Kazansky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxer Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 Screw it. I pre-ordered from Germany. I am without any VR at the moment having sold my Rift S on Half Life hype. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. Well, sort of. Even if I end up with two G2's by ordering from two places I expect I would be able to flip one pretty easily. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilbosmeggins Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 Screw it. I pre-ordered from Germany. I am without any VR at the moment having sold my Rift S on Half Life hype. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. Well, sort of. Even if I end up with two G2's by ordering from two places I expect I would be able to flip one pretty easily. Very tempted, but slightly hesitant. Is using PayPal a good idea for for payment for a pre-order, what, with it coming from Germany etc. Will I still have some kind of protection if it goes tits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sze5003 Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 Very tempted, but slightly hesitant. Is using PayPal a good idea for for payment for a pre-order, what, with it coming from Germany etc. Will I still have some kind of protection if it goes tits?I'm in the US and ordered the first reverb using PayPal. Of course I have my bank account and also PayPal credit linked there. I had to send the original reverb back to hp and order a second one. I didn't have any issues aside from the customer service person on HP's end not being able to look up my HMD in their system because their support tiers are strange. Asus ROG Strix Z790-E | Core i9 13900K-NZXT Kraken X73 AIO | 32GB DDR5 G Skill Neo 6600mhz | 2TB Sk Hynix P41 Platinum nvme |1TB Evo 970 Plus nvme | OCZ Trion 150 960GB | 256GB Samsung 830 | 1TB Samsung 850 EVO | Gigabyte OC 4090 | Phanteks P600S | 1000W MSI MPG A1000G | LG C2 42 Evo 3840x2160 @ 120hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxer Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 Very tempted, but slightly hesitant. Is using PayPal a good idea for for payment for a pre-order, what, with it coming from Germany etc. Will I still have some kind of protection if it goes tits? I used PayPal. I really doubt anything is to worry about. Only issue could be returns warranty. Might need to post to Germany to claim refund or replacement rather than UK. But not a deal breaker for me. I'd rather get one of these in the first batch before they sell out. Pretty sure they WILL sell out. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilbosmeggins Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 Thanks both. Never pre-ordered from overseas before. I think I better bag one before it’s too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilbosmeggins Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 Just ordered one. Thanks for the Germany heads-up folks. I had no idea. I was just waiting it out until the UK declared the doors were open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxer Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) Lads in the UK. Authorised HP UK Reseller preorders here: https://systemactive.co.uk/online/hp-reverb-g2/ However the UK preorder price is substantially higher than the German pre order website, so speaking personally I am going to keep my German preorder. Why such a large difference? I don't know, but guessing: prices are likely to be set in USD and converted using historical exchange rates. The USD / GBP rate has been relatively stable recently, but the USD / EUR has been more volatile with the EUR strengthening a bit. Also German VAT has been temporarily reduced from 20% to (I think 16%) to help boost the economy during this pandemic. These things probably explain at least some of the variation. Good luck getting your slots. Edited July 6, 2020 by Milou [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 Hmm, yep, don’t know what’s going on there. £529 if order from Germany incl taxes, and £650 in the UK? Doesn’t make sense. Also, when/if Sunak announces a reduction in VAT in the UK, will the price we pay change? Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxer Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) The VAT explains about 4% difference. The exchange rate explains maybe about another 3-5% difference. The UK reseller is charging £12 in delivery charge. There is still an unexplained gap. Unless the German website is selling the G2 without grips (my suspicion) whereas the UK reseller is including grips... that would explain it. Hence my earlier question. But at the end of the day if I save over £100 and don't get grips it makes little difference to me. I don't play generalised VR games. Just DCS and maybe some IL-2. The only difference it makes to me is potential resell value as most potential buyers would want grips. But I'd rather keep £100 in the bank. Edited July 6, 2020 by Milou [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 The German site says it includes the controllers. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxer Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 Well... it is mystery then! Hey ho. I am with the German reseller. So we'll see. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 How much did they charge for delivery to UK? Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelina1 Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 I'm tempted.. but sight unseen... see my specs below, think it's worth a shot to pre-order? I'm ok with the price... I also plan to upgrade my GPU once nVidia comes out with their new cards, (providing it's not extortion rates...) :-) MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxer Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 How much did they charge for delivery to UK? German reseller charges €0 for EU orders over €500. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 I just ordered from Germany. £548 including shipping to UK. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 How much did they charge for delivery to UK? Free shipping in Europe ... if you spend over 500 euro SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notso Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 Dammit, I'm going to have to pre-order now too. :music_whistling: System HW: i9-9900K @5ghz, MSI 11GB RTX-2080-Ti Trio, G-Skill 32GB RAM, Reverb HMD, Steam VR, TM Warthog Hotas Stick & Throttle, TM F/A-18 Stick grip add-on, TM TFRP pedals. SW: 2.5.6 OB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelina1 Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 call me an idiot, I just pulled the trigger on the pre-order.... MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VpR81 Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) German reseller charges €0 for EU orders over €500. You know they mean european union when they list EU in germany? I don't think shipping to the UK is still handled as a inside EU shipment. Is it? Also i think you will get a belated tax bill, or is the UK still part of the Schengen Area/EUCU? Edited July 7, 2020 by VpR81 Phanteks EvolvX / Win 11 / i9 12900K / MSI Z690 Carbon / MSI Suprim RTX 3090 / 64GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR5-6000 / 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD / 2TB PCIe 3.0 NVMe SSD / 2TB SATA SSD / 1TB SATA SSD / Alphacool Eisbaer Aurora Pro 360 / beQuiet StraightPower 1200W RSEAT S1 / VPC T50 CM2 + 300mm extension + Realsimulator F18 CGRH / VPC WarBRD + TM Warthog grip / WinWing F/A-18 Super Taurus / 4x TM Cougar MFD / TM TPR / HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notso Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 call me an idiot, I just pulled the trigger on the pre-order.... Two Same. System HW: i9-9900K @5ghz, MSI 11GB RTX-2080-Ti Trio, G-Skill 32GB RAM, Reverb HMD, Steam VR, TM Warthog Hotas Stick & Throttle, TM F/A-18 Stick grip add-on, TM TFRP pedals. SW: 2.5.6 OB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 call me an idiot, I just pulled the trigger on the pre-order.... Proud of you, brother. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk VR Cockpit (link): Custom Throttletek F/A-18C Throttle w/ Hall Sensors + Otto switches | Slaw Device RX Viper Pedals w/ Damper | VPC T-50 Base + 15cm Black Sahaj Extension + TM Hornet or Warthog Grip | Super Warthog Wheel Stand Pro | Steelcase Leap V2 + JetSeat SE VR Rig: Pimax 5K+ | ASUS ROG Strix 1080Ti | Intel i7-9700K | Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master | Corsair H115i RGB Platinum | 32GB Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB 3200 | Dell U3415W Curved 3440x1440 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freehand Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 I think I will hold off a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streakeagle Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 I want to wait and see what some of you guys have to say before I commit to this. For the most part I can live with the Rift S for the foreseeable future, so I can afford to wait until I get around to building a new PC and preferably see a truly new generation of VR rather than relatively minor refreshes of existing hardware. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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