training mission "engine start procedure" not continuing.

[D4n]

After certain sentence (flight controls check), he won't continue to say next steps. see .trk. https://ufile.io/kv7njg8t

[IRRE_Biluf]

I can confirm this, it fails at the elevators test

[hornblower793]

I have just tried this and the mission does work, but there is a very long pause after the check of the left aileron

[Frederf]

I get no appreciable pause. Perhaps there is some need of deadzone in the roll axis of the controller?

[felixx75]

For me it stops during adjusting the altimeter.

[OziasMidwinter]

Just for variety when I run this training mission it freezes on the flap operation check

[Maulet]

Another problem, apart from some actions sometimes not registering as done...  is Engine Start.... I can't accomplish it. 

Only problem I can think off, is the instruction to "move throttle 1 inch",... not sure I do it right.

edit: haha, human fault, who would expect that? haha

Edited June 26, 2022 by Maulet

[_Hoss]

The Mustang training videos are FUBAR too...

We Warbird fans are very low on the totem pole..

 

[-0303-]

Started new topic instead.

I also had engine start problems. Could very well be the same thing. DCS install is fresh (few days), no mods whatsoever. I made a track (about 15 sec). Noted this while playing the "count six blades" routine (to get oil around before actual start).

Note, Spitfire is my absolute favorite. What I describe below is new behavior. 99% certain I would have seen it long ago if it wasn't. I might, and maybe should, make this a separate new thread.

Description.

1) Spawn Spitfire "Takeoff from ramp". Ie, engine stopped and cold.

2) Flip open start and booster covers

3) Hit start and propeller moves.  Release start button. Hit start again, it doesn't move.

This is what my short track shows.

Now the weirdness. This only happens when the first start press is very short (less than a second). If I press first start longer, say 5 sec, it will not happen. Also, it will only happen once. Meaning, if I "Quit -> Fly again", it will not repeat.

The autostart sequence (Right Win + Home) seems to always work when applied after spawn. But ... if autostart is tried after a failed manual attempt (as in the track), autostart will not move the propeller either.

Modules:

[I-16]
[Normandy 1944 Map]
[WWII Assets Pack]
[Bf 109 K-4 Kurfurst]
[UH-1H Huey]
[F-86F Sabre]
[Flaming Cliffs 3]
[Spitfire LF Mk. IX]
[P-51D Mustang]

Free Mariana map NOT INSTALLED.

Version, latest as of today.

openbeta/2.7.16.28111/

 

Downloaded my track (above) and confirmed it repeats as described.

I've had engine start problems that express similar (as if battery low) many years ago. This was after repair I believe . Reported then, but never managed to make a clear concise description and track though.

Edited July 29, 2022 by -0303-

[Art-J]

Downloaded and watched. I'm more surprised that the prop rotated at all, with electric switch off. I though it would mean all systems are disconnected from the battery, but maybe that's not the case? Don't have electric diagram at hand to investigate.

[grafspee]

19 minutes ago, Art-J said:

Downloaded and watched. I'm more surprised that the prop rotated at all, with electric switch off. I though it would mean all systems are disconnected from the battery, but maybe that's not the case? Don't have electric diagram at hand to investigate.

The switch under throttle is only for lights, starter is always connected in spitfire. Battery kill switch if exists, probably accessed only from outside.

[-0303-]

2 hours ago, Art-J said:

Downloaded and watched. I'm more surprised that the prop rotated at all, with electric switch off. I though it would mean all systems are disconnected from the battery, but maybe that's not the case? Don't have electric diagram at hand to investigate.

Grafspee has it just right. There is no main battery switch in the Spitfire.

I deliberately skipped every other starting step to keep track as short as possible. No priming, no magnets, no fuel cock ...

Edited July 29, 2022 by -0303-

[Ala13_ManOWar]

That's been talked about here before. Apparently ground crews switch battery on for you at the radio/battery compartment before starting up, but the electric switch in the throttle works either after that is already set by ground crews. We just lack the option to ask ground crews to do that and it's already set for us.

[NineLine]

On 6/26/2022 at 8:01 PM, 352nd_Hoss said:

The Mustang training videos are FUBAR too...

We Warbird fans are very low on the totem pole..

 

Please create a proper bug report in the correct forum. Thanks.