CodeToad Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Asking for advice: after updating my DCS (after a longish break) to 2 9 16 18 updater 2.5.5 dcs on windows 10, latest NVidia drivers everything *else* seems to work fine, ie windows, other apps etc. but on starting DCS, I get the logo screen to pop up and after that it is just a black screen, not the typical main app screen w the modules list below etc. No network or disk or CPU activity out of the ordinary, DCS is just "sitting there" in the dark. I have restarted, renamed my "Saved Games" folder to see whether some incompatible preferences / configs caused this, but nothing seems to help. Can anybody suggest how I debug this further (short of a complete reinstall which given how many modules I have may take a week of downloading....) Thanks in advance ! Working on an open source "kneeboard" app (browser based, so runs everywhere) for DCS world: maps, checklists, reference, glossary, calculators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Can anybody suggest how I debug this further you may take a look into the dcs.log, to gather more clues. For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornblower793 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 It might be worth trying a repair Also, do you use any addons such as Voiceattack / Vaicom? Sent from my SM-T835 using Tapatalk Windows 11 Home ¦ Z790 AORUS Elite AX motherboard ¦ i7-13700K ¦ 64GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5 memory @ 5600MHz ¦ Samsung 990 Pro 1TB SSD for OS, Samsung 980 Pro 2TB SSD for DCS ¦ MSI GeForce RTX 4090 Gaming X Trio 24GB ¦ Virpil WarBRD base with VFX grip, Thrustmaster A10c and F/A-18 grips ¦ VKB Gunfighter Mk4 and MCG Pro ¦ Thrustmaster Warthog Throttle ¦ VKB STECS Throttle ¦ Virpil TCS rotor base with Shark and AH-64D grips ¦ MFG Crosswinds ¦ Total Controls Multi-Function Button Box ¦ Pimax Crystal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTRMcrew Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 It might be worth trying a repair Also, do you use any addons such as Voiceattack / Vaicom? Sent from my SM-T835 using Tapatalk try the repair for sure, doesn't take very long. Also, make sure to empty out the shader folders. And keep trying... sometimes I need to close the app on task managers several times to get it to start properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted April 22, 2020 ED Team Share Posted April 22, 2020 please attach your dcs log it should give us some clues thanks Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeger Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 Same exact issue. I start up DCS, it displays the launcher, then maximizes and goes into a black screen. Happening even after a full reinstall of the game. CPU appears to be doing nothing. It's like the main menu loaded but I can't see it. Version: 2.5.6.47404, Nvidia Drivers 445.87. Attached log.dcs.txt [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeToad Posted April 27, 2020 Author Share Posted April 27, 2020 Hey all - thanks for your ideas ! Unfortunately the log file (also attached to this post) was not much use, seems pretty ok - except one line: UIBASERENDERER: Cannot load font [C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\dxgui\skins\fonts\]! That directory exists, and fonts are in there and they are readable as far as I can tell. Not sure that alone would keep the screen black... I did notice that Aeger in his post describing the same problem has the same font error - can someone check whether their successful boot log has this error also ? If not, perhaps thats the place to dig deeper next... Second, I ran the repair and no weirdness reported. Current versions: installed version 2.5.5.41371.1 DCS updater 2.9.16.18 I have no mods running (also told repair it could remove any if it found any). Tacview 1.8.2 is installed though. Log file says it successfully loaded the Tacview files. GPU is a NVidia GTX 1080Ti driver 445.87 (4/15/2020) Like Aeger said in his post, Task Manager reports low CPU/GPU/Memory once DCS is loaded and displaying black, suggesting maybe it is just in the main menu, not unsuccessfully trying to do any heavy lifting. snap attacheddcs.log.txt Working on an open source "kneeboard" app (browser based, so runs everywhere) for DCS world: maps, checklists, reference, glossary, calculators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Rename Saved Games/Config/Options.lua Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeToad Posted April 27, 2020 Author Share Posted April 27, 2020 SkateZilla: SOLVED thank you Turns out VR mode was turned on but I wasnt using the Oculus Rift (which itself still needs some debugging) I must have had VR mode turned on in DCS previously. My bad ! Thank you and hopefully that solves Aegers issue too ! Working on an open source "kneeboard" app (browser based, so runs everywhere) for DCS world: maps, checklists, reference, glossary, calculators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeger Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 I tried wiping out my options (actually I wiped my profile) and the issue returned. For some reason these "false starts" are not consistent and happen maybe 50% of the time. So far after disabling fullscreen I haven't been able to repro it, however it's odd to me that disabling full screen has no noticeable effect -- I'd assume it'd become windowed, which leaves me to believe something there isn't working? Anyway I've disabled VR as well as I'm not using it. I wish I had more data to provide on this issue. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeger Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 I've re-enabled VR and full screen mode to see if I can reproduce the issue and I can't :wallbash: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted April 28, 2020 ED Team Share Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) I've re-enabled VR and full screen mode to see if I can reproduce the issue and I can't :wallbash: Computers can be strange sometimes, hopefully your issue is resolved thanks Edited April 28, 2020 by BIGNEWY Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornblower793 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 however it's odd to me that disabling full screen has no noticeable effect -- I'd assume it'd become windowed, which leaves me to believe something there isn't working? Other apps I have can be fullscreen or frameless window in addition to a classic window. Frameless looks exactly like full screen if sized to the screen resolution Sent from my SM-T835 using Tapatalk Windows 11 Home ¦ Z790 AORUS Elite AX motherboard ¦ i7-13700K ¦ 64GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5 memory @ 5600MHz ¦ Samsung 990 Pro 1TB SSD for OS, Samsung 980 Pro 2TB SSD for DCS ¦ MSI GeForce RTX 4090 Gaming X Trio 24GB ¦ Virpil WarBRD base with VFX grip, Thrustmaster A10c and F/A-18 grips ¦ VKB Gunfighter Mk4 and MCG Pro ¦ Thrustmaster Warthog Throttle ¦ VKB STECS Throttle ¦ Virpil TCS rotor base with Shark and AH-64D grips ¦ MFG Crosswinds ¦ Total Controls Multi-Function Button Box ¦ Pimax Crystal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akula Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Well this is interesting.. I'm having the same issue and I've never used VR (trackir ATM). So I went to VR and "Enable VR" was NOT checked so I proceeded to uncheck everything in that category. Pressed OK and DCS did a restart... OK...Weird? Back in DCS and I disabled fullscreen and DCS did a restart. That seems normal. My question here is; If VR was never enabled, why would DCS need to restart after unchecking all the boxes for VR? This leads me to believe that traces of VR functionality remain enabled even when the parent check box is unchecked. I haven't checked to see if the black screens in flight come back but I'll report on it either way after testing. MB: MPG Z790 EDGE WIFI Memory: WD Black SN850X 2TB PCIe Gen4 NVMe M.2 CPU: Intel Core i9-14900K Desktop Processor 24 cores (8P+16E) 36M Cache EVGA 1200W Gold PSU MSI RTX 3090 TrackIR on Samsung 49 inch Odyssey Widescreen No money in my pocket lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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