zerO_crash Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 First and foremost, congratulations on a first and fantastic module. I like very much the Russian and Chinese tech mixed in one plane. It makes for a very interesting and well modelled module. Again, fantastic job done :thumbup: There is really only one thing I kind of miss in VR, and that is a pilot body. Is it in the plans to add a one for the plane? Would be absolutely awesome to have a Chinese/Pakistani pilot body :thumbup: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaHeen-1 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 It's Chinese, Russian, American, European and Pakistani technology actually. Give us that sexy body! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drag80 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 It's Chinese, Russian, American, European and Pakistani technology actually. Give us that sexy body! What exactly in JF17 is American ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaHeen-1 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 The ergonomics, HUD and the ejection seat at the very least I think. Might be wrong. I don't memorize this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeriaGloria Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 The ejection seat is a Martin baker, a British company Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaHeen-1 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Oh sweet. Yes add Britain to the above list as it's no longer part of Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylkhan Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Oh sweet. Yes add Britain to the above list as it's no longer part of Europe. It is and has always been part of Europe, like Russia. But it is no longer part of UE, it's a different things :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaHeen-1 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 In this context European refers to EU. And never includes Russia. Never includes turkey etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerO_crash Posted April 28, 2020 Author Share Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) Russia first and foremost is not in Europe, that as a country. But part of our country is within the Europe. The border of Europe as a continent ends by the Ural mountains in the east, meaning that Moscow is within the European continent. In any case, US did first help Pakistan with a improved design of the chinese J7 (copy of MiG21 pf/pfm), but due to sanctions by late 1980´s the project for the first upgrade, Sabre II stopped. Then a private venture between Grumman and China (Chengdu) was initiated to create the Super 7. Very shortly after the start, Grumman left the project by sanctions, this time put on China. From here on China and Pakistan (ought to be said that the pakistani technology is not that far, so this is primarily a project where China/Russia and US teaches Pakistan how to build a plane, and Chinese serv them their electronics and digital suite) worked together to create the JF17 until MiG was asked to join in with their expertise, support as well asked about the unused plans of MiG23. The effect is a pretty much a multinational light fighter project which uses something from everyone. Every nation that participated has left some work on the airframe. As to UK being in there, that is not something confirmed by any sources I have read. UK isn´t mentioned at all, so no, they didn´t take part in the project. As to the specifics of who made what for the plane, besides the obvious: Airframe generally has something from everyone, but bears most resemblance to MiG23. Russian RD93 engine, Chinese radar, weapons and for sure digital suite. US help on airframe, and Mk. unguided bombs. Not sure how much Pakistan contributed to this, it certainly didn´t provide the major components as it´s industry is not that far as to produce them. But they certainly did have their own role in how they wanted to have the cockpit arranged and otherwise the spec. they required. Edited April 28, 2020 by zerO_crash [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaHeen-1 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 British ejection seat, Spanish rwr etc etc. Quite the fruity plane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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