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Sorry ED. No sale of Viper for me, until performance drastically improves.

On my system

HP 440Z wkstation, XEON E5-1630v4 3.7-4Ghz, 64GB (2666), Nvidia RTX 2060 Super, 2560X1440@144hz, NVME, SSD SataIII

 

DCS:

Textures - High

Terrain Tex - High

Civ Traffic - Low

Water - Medium

Visib range - Low or Medium (same performance)

Heat Blur - Low

Shadow- Low

Rez - 2560X1440 , 1 screen

Res of Cockpit displays - 512

MSAA - OFF

DOF -OFF

Lens Effects - Dirt&Flare

SSAA - Off

SSLR - Off

Clutter - 100

Trees Viz - 50%

Preload Rad - 150,000

Smoke Density - 1

Gamma - 2.2

Aniso Filter - 4x

Terrain Object Shadows - Off

Cockpit GI - OFF

Rain - ON

Vsync - OFF

Full Screen - ON

 

Mission: F16/Instant Action/Freeflight/PG

Same mission with

F-16C avg FPS 40-60

F/A-18C avg 98-145

RAZBAM AV-8B/NA 120-156

RAZBAM Mirage 2000C - 128-160

 

F-16C Instant Action/Freeflight/Normandy 28-39. Never higher then 50

 

This performance is unacceptable. WIll wait until ED optimizes this module.

 

RTX 2070 Super gives me 5%-10% performance improvement to DCS. 2080 Super 15-20% at best.

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That is a beast of a machine you are running! :-S

 

-S

 

Joking aside, there *is* a very noticeable performance difference between say the Hornet and the Falcon, in the same mission...

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What does '-S' mean? Is there a secret meaning to that ?

 

Take a look at his callsign. ;)

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Even if I replace 2060 Super with 2080 Super, I only get average 15-20% FPS boost in DCS. A 2080 TI is about 5% boos on top of 2080 Super.

So I would never get decent FPS in DCS: F-16C. My CPU never even approaches 1/2 load by DCS. RTX is doing most of the work. Which is great. So there is a bottleneck in F-16C in DCS, and it is compromising performance.

 

So short of a super-rig with dual 2080 TI,water cooled, overclocked, etc.. DCS: F-16C will never achieve 90+ FPS. With that rig, which would be between 7 and 10 K USD, I would demand 100+ FPS with three 4K UHD panels and DCS setting on ULTRA. But I would not see that level of performance drom Viper module.

 

Polychop's Gazelle, which has a very sophisticated rotary flight model averages 128 FPS on my rig. In fact Gazelle has best FPS performance of three choppa modules, KA-50, MI-8 being other two.

Belsimtek's F-5E has decreased in FPS performance from 2.5 to 2.5.6

Seems that RAZBAM and Polychop know something about getting high performance out of DCS, better then ED and Belsimtek.


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Just because i feel like offending people tonight :D

 

Intel i3-4150 (2 cores/4 threads, 3.5 GHz, 3MB cache)

GTX 950 2GB DDR5

8GB DDR3-1600

Samsung SSD

Win 10

No OC at all

Probably less than 300 bucks nowadays

 

30 frames in F-16 PG free flight instant action.

 

(on a serious note: yeah man, i feel with you. Optimization is just shite, im the proof)

 

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I mean, seriously, how big of a slap in the face is this? What does your rig cost? 2k?

 

I am not sure if you are asking me or the previous poster.

Mine was not costly at all. I work in VFX and post, or was until this catastrophe, and I generally get workstations that were cutting edge maybe one or 1 1/2 years prior. The machine I get, more or less stripped from lease returns. In my latest case I got HPZ440 w/o GPU and RAM, but it had NVMe to which I added an 1TB SSD for application storage.

 

HP 440Z was $650

2666 MHZ ECC RAM was $400 (16GB X4 @ $90 per stick)

1 TB WD BLue SSD NAND SataIII $150

Nvidia RTX 2060 Super FE reference card from Nvidia $399

 

2X 2560 X1440 @144Hz panels $599 each. +1X 1920X1080 HD panel 60 Hz. $199. Only one 2560X1440 panel is used for DCS.

 

X56 Rhino (Logitech Gray) and TM Rudders

 

Entire rig is about $3,500.00 USD.

Works great with my Maya, Houdini, Realflow, Nuke, Marmoset, Redshift and of course DCS. Except in F-16C module. Only thing is, if I am rendering with Redshift or another GPU renderer, I cant use DCS. Both use GPU to its full extent and both slow down greatly.

The largest expense, aside from box+cpu, is damn GPU. Those darn cryptominers are still wreaking havoc on game GPU markets. Cudos to Nvidia and AMD for separating product lines, where game and OpenGL pro GPU cant be exploited for crypto mining. THey make vide-less versions of their GPUs which work great for crypto mining and offline GPU rendering, but without video out so the cannot be used as video cards. Neither can a video less GPU be SLI'ed with normal GPU. However a normal RTX GPU and videoless cryptomining GTX GPU cards do live on same mainboard. I am considering getting one or two for Redshift and Houdini simulations, so I can render, sim, and play DCS at same time.

 

OK sorry for longer then needed post. Like I have anything better to do.

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....

Mission: F16/Instant Action/Freeflight/PG

Same mission with

F-16C avg FPS 40-60

F/A-18C avg 98-145

RAZBAM AV-8B/NA 120-156

RAZBAM Mirage 2000C - 128-160

 

F-16C Instant Action/Freeflight/Normandy 28-39. Never higher then 50

 

This performance is unacceptable. WIll wait until ED optimizes this module.

 

RTX 2070 Super gives me 5%-10% performance improvement to DCS. 2080 Super 15-20% at best.

More performance is always better but for comparison(only starting fps because i don't know where you were flying/track would be cool for comparison):

PG: starting with 90+

Normandy: starting with 60+

 

....

Polychop's Gazelle, which has a very sophisticated rotary flight model averages 128 FPS on my rig. In fact Gazelle has best FPS performance of three choppa modules, KA-50, MI-8 being other two....

OT here but the "sophisticated rotary flight model" of Polychop's Gazelle is that "sophisticated" that they plan to redo it after the release of the Kiowa...:music_whistling:

And the damage model of the rotor....you could land beside a building, lean your Gazelle to the side so that your rotor touched the wall of the building and nothing would happen, only a particle effect would be rendered everytime a rotor blade hits the wall(but i don't know if they fixed that after all the years)

/OT

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More performance is always better but for comparison(only starting fps because i don't know where you were flying/track would be cool for comparison):

PG: starting with 90+

Normandy: starting with 60+

 

 

OT here but the "sophisticated rotary flight model" of Polychop's Gazelle is that "sophisticated" that they plan to redo it after the release of the Kiowa...:music_whistling:

And the damage model of the rotor....you could land beside a building, lean your Gazelle to the side so that your rotor touched the wall of the building and nothing would happen, only a particle effect would be rendered everytime a rotor blade hits the wall(but i don't know if they fixed that after all the years)

/OT

CPU Processor speeds have to be pretty beefy for that. a 2016 era 3.4GHz multi-core processor even using a 2080Ti will probably choke pretty hard.

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Even if I replace 2060 Super with 2080 Super, I only get average 15-20% FPS boost in DCS. A 2080 TI is about 5% boos on top of 2080 Super.

So I would never get decent FPS in DCS: F-16C. My CPU never even approaches 1/2 load by DCS. RTX is doing most of the work. Which is great. So there is a bottleneck in F-16C in DCS, and it is compromising performance.

 

So short of a super-rig with dual 2080 TI,water cooled, overclocked, etc.. DCS: F-16C will never achieve 90+ FPS. With that rig, which would be between 7 and 10 K USD, I would demand 100+ FPS with three 4K UHD panels and DCS setting on ULTRA. But I would not see that level of performance drom Viper module.

 

Polychop's Gazelle, which has a very sophisticated rotary flight model averages 128 FPS on my rig. In fact Gazelle has best FPS performance of three choppa modules, KA-50, MI-8 being other two.

Belsimtek's F-5E has decreased in FPS performance from 2.5 to 2.5.6

Seems that RAZBAM and Polychop know something about getting high performance out of DCS, better then ED and Belsimtek.

 

In VR Index 100% PD, 2080ti, Mirage 2k's guns guns guns over Caucasus 90 FPS, with the F-16 the same mission ~40 and MDFs illegible.

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