Jagged Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Flying without any load what so ever, the SU tries to bank hard left. Try to compensate with trim (aileron right) and at the end my sidewinder2 ff was pulling hard to upper left... making the aircraft totally unflyable (going down fast....) ... eject, eject... eject Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S77th-konkussion Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 is your stick showing any input (not centered) when left alone? [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=43337&d=1287169113[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagged Posted January 25, 2008 Author Share Posted January 25, 2008 with the stick dead centered, the aircraft is heading up left... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain R Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 My Su-33 does this also. Especially if you try to restart a "saved state" mission. It is just all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S77th-konkussion Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 meh.. saved state doesn't work- never has. If you are taking over the controls while watching a track- you may be in some auto pilot mode. Try calibrating the stick if it can be. Either use windows control panel or your profiling software. Also- have you properly set your thrust axis? Lomac does not do it correctly by default 99.99% of the time. [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=43337&d=1287169113[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagged Posted January 25, 2008 Author Share Posted January 25, 2008 Also- have you properly set your thrust axis? Lomac does not do it correctly by default 99.99% of the time. Thrust axis...? do you mean the throttle. OK i'll give a try. Currently working and the time now is 12.08pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S77th-konkussion Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Yeah- make sure it's set to "thrust" and not "left or right thrust" [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=43337&d=1287169113[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weta43 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 My MSFFB2 does the same thing except the other way around - the stick is off to the right (both on screen & physically) when spawned in the two AFM planes even though it shows centered in all test screens. Before takeoff, or immediately after spawning in flight, I have to trim left aileron to get the stick centered & level - then it's fine after that. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagged Posted January 25, 2008 Author Share Posted January 25, 2008 Thanks all, I'll post the result... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
192nd_Erdem Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Also, check that you may be messing with autopilot. The plane usually goes out of control if you accidentally hit autopilot and try to fly it at the same time. Other than that, it seems me like a stick centering issue. Nothing some deadzone wouldn't fix :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weta43 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 But who wants deadzone ? It's centered in every other game I use it in ... Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazer Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 I noticed, that after using roll trim (left or right), it will never perfectly center again. It will always slowly roll left or right. Forum | Videos | DCS:BS Demo1 / Demo2 | YouTube Channel [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S77th-konkussion Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 I noticed, that after using roll trim (left or right), it will never perfectly center again. It will always slowly roll left or right. Well it's not so much that the plane won't do it- but it is more difficult. There is no trim cancel feature on AFM planes. You could use the "panic button" (I think it's alt+3) autopilot mode to force the correction, then immediately disable it. [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=43337&d=1287169113[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazer Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Well it's not so much that the plane won't do it- but it is more difficult. There is no trim cancel feature on AFM planes. You could use the "panic button" (I think it's alt+3) autopilot mode to force the correction, then immediately disable it. Got no time now but thats worth to give it a try, but not very sure it will work. Trim reset also doesn't center it perfectly (even when you have 3 green). Forum | Videos | DCS:BS Demo1 / Demo2 | YouTube Channel [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S77th-konkussion Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Got no time now but thats worth to give it a try, but not very sure it will work. Trim reset also doesn't center it perfectly (even when you have 3 green). There is no trim reset/cancel for the frogfoots. Even if you use this feature- which will work- if you have damage to a control surface or an unbalanced load it will react to that as soon as you disable the auto pilot. [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=43337&d=1287169113[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaman Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 In reality no airplane actually flies like on a perfect straight rail. 51PVO Founding member (DEC2007-) 100KIAP Founding member (DEC2018-) :: Shaman aka [100☭] Shamansky tail# 44 or 444 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 100KIAP Regiment Early Warning & Control officer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
159th_Viper Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 In reality no airplane actually flies like on a perfect straight rail. Aye - Even Launching a single Vikhr has an effect on the Flight Dynamic of the T-Bird. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graywo1fg Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 What Joystick do you have? because i have an X52 (regular) and sometimes randomly it will bank hard left or hard right. so what i do is unplug the cord from the joystick to the throttle. NOT the USB to the computer the one just from the throttle to the joystick and then plug it back in (Leaving the stick centered) and it resets it and works :P Voice of Jester AI Death From Above =DFA= Squadron Discord - https://discord.gg/deathfromabove http://www.twitch.tv/graywo1f https://www.youtube.com/user/Lonewo1fg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmonaut Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 My MSFFB2 does the same thing except the other way around - the stick is off to the right (both on screen & physically) when spawned in the two AFM planes even though it shows centered in all test screens. Before takeoff, or immediately after spawning in flight, I have to trim left aileron to get the stick centered & level - then it's fine after that. ... worth a try seeing as it only takes a second to do; C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\Eagle Dynamics\Lock On\Config Open ; producer.cfg and change ForceFeedbackEnabled = true; To; ForceFeedbackEnabled = false; Exactly as it is written with no caps; May help :dunno: :v: Cozmo. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Minimum effort, maximum satisfaction. CDDS Tutorial Version 3. | Main Screen Mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weta43 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Thanks Cosmonaut, but I've pretty much gotten used to trimming as soon as I hit 'S', and I like having FFB enabled. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boberro Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 I play on keyboard and all is fine, play on keyboard it is nice! Reminder: Fighter pilots make movies. Bomber pilots make... HISTORY! :D | Also to be remembered: FRENCH TANKS HAVE ONE GEAR FORWARD AND FIVE BACKWARD :D ಠ_ಠ ツ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weta43 Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 You have a force feedback keyboard ? Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropikal Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 Try pressing CTRL + T and then try to level the plane out .. see if that makes a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
159th_Viper Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 Try pressing CTRL + T and then try to level the plane out .. see if that makes a difference. You cannot reset the trim with Ctrl-T whilst flying the T-Bird. Has to be attended to Manually. 1 Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmonaut Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 I play on keyboard and all is fine, play on keyboard it is nice! Enough of that now go and get your self a Joystick.:v: @Weta43 I have a FFB2 stick as well and I like the feedback for the AFM models but I still turn off FFB becasue it makes trimming pretty impossible and the other aircraft just fly like S H One T ;) Cozmo. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Minimum effort, maximum satisfaction. CDDS Tutorial Version 3. | Main Screen Mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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