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It appears that ED have decided to model a Spanish Hornet carrying Litening....

 

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Repeating my previous question:

 

How do we know that the pictures/video on the first page are from USMC Litening II Pod?

 

USMC has used more advanced Litening ER and AT pod versions since 2003. It is possible that the comparison is faulty and that the USMC source are from more advanced versions of the Litening pod.


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To me I see no reason one can't use the information gathered from video recordings and then ask SME's if its accurate and then adjust as needed as more information comes out over time. It doesn't need to be 100000% accurate just i'd like the features on the actual US lightning such as the tgt coordinates and the N arrow. And this would fit more with the goal of the hornet which was originally just USN but then ED added the TGP that the marine core used.

 

Because there are many things you cant confirm with video recordings, I shouldn't have to point that out, but it should be backed up with actual documentation.

 

As for SME's, and no offence to anyone, but many of the SME's ED deal with will 100% not commet on weapon systems except maybe in vague terms (unless a signed and agreed to contract was in place allowing the discussion of a specific system), and "SME' giving users detailed information on classified or protected systems, I would have to question quite a bit, and I also suggest being very careful, obviously we have seen users and devs get in trouble in the past pushing the limits.

 

Repeating my previous question:

 

How do we know that the pictures/video on the first page are from USMC Litening II Pod?

 

USMC has used more advanced Litening ER and AT pod versions since 2003. It is possible that the comparison is faulty and that the USMC source are from more advanced versions of the Litening pod.

 

Good question, I don't have an answer. Not sure if there is any telling evidence there.


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NineLine, there a video showing coordinates and a north indication in the Spanish flir.

Why not just put this items? What's the big deal? It's there is RL... It will end up a super long discussion that last for months now... win-win...

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NineLine, there a video showing coordinates and a north indication in the Spanish flir.

Why not just put this items? What's the big deal? It's there is RL... It will end up a super long discussion that last for months now... win-win...

 

at some point they'll just do it - juuuuust to shut everybody up

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NineLine, there a video showing coordinates and a north indication in the Spanish flir.

Why not just put this items? What's the big deal? It's there is RL... It will end up a super long discussion that last for months now... win-win...

 

What video?

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What video?

 

 

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So okay no COORDS? Check this video.

 

 

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ED, just put the coordinates & North in, we need them.

 

 

what about the military grid reference coords?

 

lat/long + MGRS

 

???

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what about the military grid reference coords?

 

lat/long + MGRS

 

???

 

Weeeell, if they finally implemented MGRS entry and the associated DDI page and mark points we'd be good there, too, even w/o MGRS display in the TGP proper...

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Now that I think about it, I wonder if the reason we have an Exports interface is because ED are under license to not export the workings of US hornets FLIRs

 

But its weird since somehow a USAF interface of L2 for A10C is used, as well as for the F16C, and USMC interface of L2 for Harrier all have coordinates in their screen and not a generic export one?

 

Why would ED be so persistent of using a Spanish Hornet L2 version ( even if thats documentation that they have) and not fill in the blanks on how the interface should work with USMC version to make our DCS hornet more akin to the version its supposed to be replicating?

 

 

Based on what we have seen in videos even from around "mid 2000'S we have a good comparison to to show the differences. Of all things lacking We really auht to have those coordinates listed on the screen, becuase it seems even the spanish one can still display them as another user posted earlier , but simply in different part of the FLIR page

 

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We've been there already with other systems such as the RWR (for which there were plenty of threads with lots of undeniable photo/video evidence of how it should work). And I'm afraid that unless public documentation exists, we'll have to get used to what we have now.

 

This could possibly be due to ED wanting to stay well clear of any doubt of ITAR complicance and/or their military contracts.

 

What I wonder is how the F-16's HTS is going to turn up.

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We've been there already with other systems such as the RWR (for which there were plenty of threads with lots of undeniable photo/video evidence of how it should work). And I'm afraid that unless public documentation exists, we'll have to get used to what we have now.

 

This could possibly be due to ED wanting to stay well clear of any doubt of ITAR complicance and/or their military contracts.

 

What I wonder is how the F-16's HTS is going to turn up.

 

How is the RWR supposed to work according your statement?

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How is the RWR supposed to work according your statement?
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Oh that? Yeah, poor extrapolation is everywhere in the dcs hornet. ED even acknowledge to be bugs, that thread was sent to the wish list but I'm pretty sure ED has their hands on it already. Maybe in a couple of years we'll see an improvement.
Oh, another thing is the wrong classification of threats in the threat bands. You can have an enemy MiG-29 at 5 NM in front of you and the RWR will place it on the outer "safe" band, unless it starts locking you with its radar.

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Oh, another thing is the wrong classification of threats in the threat bands. You can have an enemy MiG-29 at 5 NM in front of you and the RWR will place it on the outer "safe" band, unless it starts locking you with its radar.

 

Yeap, you're right. However, how sure are we about how it should work in that regard? Maybe signal intensity isn't something the RWR wants to show the pilot. Are we certain that IRL it is that way? We'll never know.

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