Aetherin Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 (edited) As of patch 2.5.6.49798, if carrying external fuel tanks on the (player) F-15C, the KC-135 will not terminate the refueling process once the internal and external tanks are full. Instead, the refueling process continues indefinitely. If no external tanks are carried, the KC-135 will terminate the AAR once the Eagle's internal tanks are full. I have attached one track, 'Refueling_Clean_Normal.trk', highlighting expected behavior once the internal tanks are full, as well as two tracks, 'Refueling_2Bags_Bugged.trk' and 'Refueling_3Bags_Bugged.trk', which show the failure to terminate the refueling process when external fuel tanks are present. All tracks were recorded on patch 2.5.6.49718. Refueling_2Bags_Bugged.trk Refueling_3Bags_Bugged.trk Refueling_Clean_Normal.trk Edited April 15, 2022 by Aetherin Updated title 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
303_Vins Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 same here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 After the completion of F15C air refueling, the tanker cannot restore the pipeline and establish the correct radio call. Not only my game, but also my friend's game. Please repair it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAXsenna Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 After the completion of F15C air refueling, the tanker cannot restore the pipeline and establish the correct radio call. Not only my game, but also my friend's game. Please repair itCould you elaborate? I'm just teaching myself AAR, and the F-15C is one module I'm pretty successful in. Cheers! Sent from my MAR-LX1A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 1 hour ago, dandan said: After the completion of F15C air refueling, the tanker cannot restore the pipeline and establish the correct radio call. Not only my game, but also my friend's game. Please repair it More detail needed. It works for me ok. Do you mean you aborted, flew away and then came back to try and refuel again? 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 1小时前,MAXsenna说: Could you elaborate? I'm just teaching myself AAR, and the F-15C is one module I'm pretty successful in. Cheers! Sent from my MAR-LX1A using Tapatalk After the fuel is full, the tank car will not automatically retract the pipeline and communicate with me Only the F15C is like this, and so is the F15C driven by friends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 So it doesn't tell you 'you're full' when it fills you up? You're right, that bug may still be there ... but all you need to do is check your fuel gauge and back away gently. 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAXsenna Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 After the fuel is full, the tank car will not automatically retract the pipeline and communicate with me Only the F15C is like this, and so is the F15C driven by friendsAh, okay. It does that for me."Transfer complete".Sent from my MAR-LX1A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Why has this bug been around for months? Was FC3 F15C abandoned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aetherin Posted April 15, 2022 Author Share Posted April 15, 2022 As of the open beta patch 2.7.11.22211 this bug is still present. If carrying any external fuel tanks on the player's F-15C, the KC-135 will not terminate the refueling process once the internal + external fuel tanks are full. The refueling process continues indefinitely. To this reply I attach several tracks that highlight this behavior for different configurations. If fuel tanks carried are jettisoned, it seems that the bug persists. Refueling_Clean_Normal_2022.trk Refueling_1Bag_Bugged_2022.trk Due to the attachment size limit of 5mb, I attach here a track for 2 external fuel tanks. Refueling_2Bags_Bugged_2022.trk 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henshao Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 I wonder if this bug is related to the fact that the ground crew will not refuel external tanks at all 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanagherLinks Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 52 minutes ago, henshao said: I wonder if this bug is related to the fact that the ground crew will not refuel external tanks at all or the "fuel flow tolerance" is low enough to be unable to trigger the transfer complete because both engines are sucking too much fuel so it won't be able to detect the transfer completion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aetherin Posted May 6, 2022 Author Share Posted May 6, 2022 On 5/2/2022 at 2:42 PM, henshao said: I wonder if this bug is related to the fact that the ground crew will not refuel external tanks at all While I cannot answer that with certainty, the fact that ground crew will not refuel external tanks at all was present prior to this bug occurring. I believe that ground crew will not refuel ext. tanks for most aircraft in DCS? On 5/2/2022 at 3:38 PM, BanagherLinks said: or the "fuel flow tolerance" is low enough to be unable to trigger the transfer complete because both engines are sucking too much fuel so it won't be able to detect the transfer completion This is certainly a possibility. I will try playing around with getting the same fuel flow without bags (with a fast KC-130) as I do with two bags, and see if that changes things. I will say, though, that there were no issues with bags prior to patch 2.5.6.49798, and flying the same mission on the older patch and on patch 2.5.6.49798 or greater yields different results. Perhaps ED changed the flow logic for the F-15C in patch 2.5.6.49798, but then I believe it was not documented at all in the patch notes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 Reported. Thanks for the tracks, @Aetherin. Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 After the most recent update, this bug still exists and has been in existence for two years. Why not fix it? Is FC3 F15C abandoned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaisedByWolves Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 I’m sure ED has assigned more programmers to this. These things take time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nahen Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 I don't think it's a big enough problem to be dealt with in any special way. Maybe someday we'll get the F-15C in the full fidelity version and the problem will disappear 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draconus Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 15 hours ago, Nahen said: I don't think it's a big enough problem to be dealt with in any special way. Why are you denying any fixes to the obvious bugs? What's your agenda? Feels like trolling. Any potential FF module would come with its own bugs and wouldn't fix the ones left in the FC3 module. 1 Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX3060 Rift S T16000M TWCS TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted November 23, 2022 ED Team Share Posted November 23, 2022 posts merged Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nahen Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 2 hours ago, draconus said: Why are you denying any fixes to the obvious bugs? What's your agenda? Feels like trolling. Any potential FF module would come with its own bugs and wouldn't fix the ones left in the FC3 module. The first thing - if you start without suspended tanks, only with fuel in the inner fuselage and wing tanks, after refueling you will hear "Transfer complete, disconect". If you take additional tanks and don't throw them away during the flight, you will sometimes hear a message after refueling and sometimes not. If you take additional tanks, use up fuel from them (or don't use them) and discard the tanks, you certainly won't get a message about the end of refueling. The second thing - I wrote that I don't consider it a significant problem. Yes, that's what I think. Why? Because during refueling I can look at the fuel gauge at any time, I can set it so that it shows me specific amounts of fuel in the tanks of the fuselage, wings, in the outer tanks under the wings or under the fuselage. I know how much fuel is in integral tanks, I know how much is in underwing tanks and in a set of three tanks. It is not a problem to control the amount of fuel when refueling. Besides, this problem has been reported for several years and if it hasn't been "fixed" to this day, what would suddenly change? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 I want to make a F15 air refueling video, and I hope to repair this feature as soon as possible. This bug has not been repaired for more than two years. It is not a new function, but a bug. I hope it can be repaired as soon as possible. I have been waiting. A person's life is very short, no one can live forever, and should not wait so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 No need for a video, I've made a fresh track for devs a few days ago. I hope the fix won't be too long. 1 Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickos86 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Any chance to fix this bug after almost three years? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAXsenna Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Any chance to fix this bug after almost three years? Can you provide a short track? I don't get this issue at all. Sent from my MAR-LX1A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickos86 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 enjoyF15C_refuel_90p_3bag.trk. started with 90% of fuel and 3 bags. Got quickly to 25.7K of fuel but got no "transfer complete" 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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