Gizmokev Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Hi guys and gals. So here I am starting my venture into the realms of DCS. I have an Oculus Quest and already discovered that if I want to do anything in here I cant use Touch Controllers and it has to be HOTAS so we will leave that alone for now and hopefully a patch or whatever its called comes out to be able to use them in the future. So why did I join? Well I am an ex RN Helo pilot and found out that I can fly the Gazelle. So with that in mind I am looking at getting rudder pedals in order to fly it as I used to on 705NAS doing low level fast stops, confined landings and all that shizzle before moving into multiplayer. As far as multiplayer goes how does it work? Is it just a case of blasting about the skies or is it more organised as a military style mission (thats what I am looking for tbf). Anyway nice to meet you all when I eventually get my setup sorted (HOTASwise) and see you in the briefing room at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shu77 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Multiplayer varies greatly, there are some really great social squadrons and others that take it very very seriously. Personally Im waiting on Kiowa as I hear varied things about gazelle and how done it is but a lot of our guys really enjoy the Huey. Your biggest challenge is finding a collective that doesnt cost a small fortune. Theres a few people which have gone the USB handbrake route which is what Im hoping to do. Beyond that Rudder pedals are all much of a muchness but do help and your general HOTAS is a varied topic with a lot of niche competitors, but welcome to the forum Hornet, Super Carrier, Warthog & (II), Mustang, Spitfire, Albatross, Sabre, Combined Arms, FC3, Nevada, Gulf, Normandy, Syria AH-6J i9 10900K @ 5.0GHz, Gigabyte Z490 Vision G, Cooler Master ML120L, Gigabyte RTX3080 OC Gaming 10Gb, 64GB RAM, Reverb G2 @ 2480x2428, TM Warthog, Saitek pedals & throttle, DIY collective, TrackIR4, Cougar MFDs, vx3276-2k Combat Wombat's Airfield & Enroute Maps and Planning Tools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmokev Posted June 8, 2020 Author Share Posted June 8, 2020 Multiplayer varies greatly, there are some really great social squadrons and others that take it very very seriously. Personally Im waiting on Kiowa as I hear varied things about gazelle and how done it is but a lot of our guys really enjoy the Huey. Your biggest challenge is finding a collective that doesnt cost a small fortune. Theres a few people which have gone the USB handbrake route which is what Im hoping to do. Beyond that Rudder pedals are all much of a muchness but do help and your general HOTAS is a varied topic with a lot of niche competitors, but welcome to the forum Have just been looking at rudder pedals and cant decide to go the full hog and thurstmaster pendulus pedals or more economic on the saitek ones.......:helpsmilie: As for collective.....I was looking at the handbrake option but it lacks buttons.......arrrghhhhhh the whole hotas things is a minefield in itself but mine needs to be packed away after every session due to lack of space and a missus that would agree to me having a full chair setup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealDCSpilot Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 The Gazelle is DCS's worst helicopter module, i would recommend to start with the Huey or Ka-50. Polychop did nothing to fix this since release in 2016, all we get are excuses like: https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4373660&postcount=51 i9 13900K @5.5GHz, Z790 Gigabyte Aorus Master, RTX4090 Waterforce, 64 GB DDR5 @5600, Pico 4, HOTAS & Rudder: all Virpil with Rhino FFB base made by VPforce, DCS: all modules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmokev Posted June 8, 2020 Author Share Posted June 8, 2020 That doesnt look good.....and there was me getting all excited about flying my old machine again..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromhunt Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Please "Gizmokev" check out your private messages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmokev Posted June 8, 2020 Author Share Posted June 8, 2020 Done and replied Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shu77 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) I have Saitek ones which have been fit for purpose for fixed wing, if you are really into Helos the VKB T-rudder https://flightsimcontrols.com/product/vkb-sim-t-rudder-pedals-mk-iv-2/ may be more your thing. Edited June 8, 2020 by shu77 Hornet, Super Carrier, Warthog & (II), Mustang, Spitfire, Albatross, Sabre, Combined Arms, FC3, Nevada, Gulf, Normandy, Syria AH-6J i9 10900K @ 5.0GHz, Gigabyte Z490 Vision G, Cooler Master ML120L, Gigabyte RTX3080 OC Gaming 10Gb, 64GB RAM, Reverb G2 @ 2480x2428, TM Warthog, Saitek pedals & throttle, DIY collective, TrackIR4, Cougar MFDs, vx3276-2k Combat Wombat's Airfield & Enroute Maps and Planning Tools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shu77 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) I'm planning to build a button box for the top of my Handbrake if it ever turns up, there are a number of button boxes on the market you could probably mount there and a few guys doing Huey collectives, i.e http://www.maxflightstick.com/store/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=92 https://komodosimulations.co.uk/collections/collective cant say I know the Gazelle well enough to comment Edited June 8, 2020 by shu77 Hornet, Super Carrier, Warthog & (II), Mustang, Spitfire, Albatross, Sabre, Combined Arms, FC3, Nevada, Gulf, Normandy, Syria AH-6J i9 10900K @ 5.0GHz, Gigabyte Z490 Vision G, Cooler Master ML120L, Gigabyte RTX3080 OC Gaming 10Gb, 64GB RAM, Reverb G2 @ 2480x2428, TM Warthog, Saitek pedals & throttle, DIY collective, TrackIR4, Cougar MFDs, vx3276-2k Combat Wombat's Airfield & Enroute Maps and Planning Tools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0414 Wee Neal Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Hi Guys Check out this thread, no affiliation https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=260026 Neal Desktop PC: Intel i7 14700K, MSI Z790 MAG Tomahawk MOBO, 64Gb RAM , GPU Nvidia RTX 3080ti Windows 11, VPC joystick, Crosswind rudder peddles, HP Reverb G2, VPC Collective, DOF Reality H2, Gametrix seat, WinWing panels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defygravity Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 If you'd like to go full ham, I have the collective from these guys, but you could buy the whole shabang, or you can just buy the pedals (listed below the first link). You will also need one of the controllers to go with it, but beyond that it is really plug and play. By the time you buy the TM TPR Pedals, that is $500 alone. Just giving you options. BTW, the collective is great! https://pro-flight-trainer-com.myshopify.com/collections/control-full-sets or https://pro-flight-trainer-com.myshopify.com/collections/spare-parts/products/2016-push-pull-pedal Cheers, and welcome to helos in DCS. (The gazelle is severely broken and I am currently chomping at the bit to get the Kiowa as mentioned earlier) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmokev Posted June 9, 2020 Author Share Posted June 9, 2020 I have bitten the bullet and gone for these bad boys to assist with rudder control.....hope they are up to the job..... https://flightsimcontrols.com/product/vkb-sim-t-rudder-pedals-mk-iv-2/ Now to look at stick and collective.......although I am thinking of modding the throttle control on my old Siatek Cyborg 3D into a collective complete with the buttons.....surely its merely a case of extending the lead from the throttle potentionmeters to keep the range but adapting it through a gearing to give only 55' of movement on the collective.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lange_666 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Virpil seems to have some collective coming up: https://www.helisimmer.com/news/virpil-entering-helicopter-market-showcases-collective Win11 Pro 64-bit, Ryzen 5800X3D, Corsair H115i, Gigabyte X570S UD, EVGA 3080Ti XC3 Ultra 12GB, 64 GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600. Monitors: LG 27GL850-B27 2560x1440 + Samsung SyncMaster 2443 1920x1200, HOTAS: Warthog with Virpil WarBRD base, MFG Crosswind combat pedals, TrackIR4, Rift-S. Personal Wish List: A6 Intruder, Vietnam theater, decent ATC module, better VR performance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shu77 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 nice choice on the rudder pedals Hornet, Super Carrier, Warthog & (II), Mustang, Spitfire, Albatross, Sabre, Combined Arms, FC3, Nevada, Gulf, Normandy, Syria AH-6J i9 10900K @ 5.0GHz, Gigabyte Z490 Vision G, Cooler Master ML120L, Gigabyte RTX3080 OC Gaming 10Gb, 64GB RAM, Reverb G2 @ 2480x2428, TM Warthog, Saitek pedals & throttle, DIY collective, TrackIR4, Cougar MFDs, vx3276-2k Combat Wombat's Airfield & Enroute Maps and Planning Tools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmokev Posted June 10, 2020 Author Share Posted June 10, 2020 nice choice on the rudder pedals I believe someone recommended them :music_whistling: TBF the difference in price between the Thrustmaster TRFP ones and these made me go.....ahhhhh feck its worth the extra spondolicks......hope I was right or I am coming for you with the missus in tow.....lol :megalol::megalol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shu77 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Hey dont blame me Im a hornet driver with some very old Saiteks. Will be interested how you find them for when the Kiowa comes out. Hornet, Super Carrier, Warthog & (II), Mustang, Spitfire, Albatross, Sabre, Combined Arms, FC3, Nevada, Gulf, Normandy, Syria AH-6J i9 10900K @ 5.0GHz, Gigabyte Z490 Vision G, Cooler Master ML120L, Gigabyte RTX3080 OC Gaming 10Gb, 64GB RAM, Reverb G2 @ 2480x2428, TM Warthog, Saitek pedals & throttle, DIY collective, TrackIR4, Cougar MFDs, vx3276-2k Combat Wombat's Airfield & Enroute Maps and Planning Tools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmokev Posted June 10, 2020 Author Share Posted June 10, 2020 Do you use pedals in a hornet other than taxi.......lol Jet boy coordination is fly fast and dont stress about the ball......lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gardner Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 When I went on the site it seemed like everything was out of stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmokev Posted June 10, 2020 Author Share Posted June 10, 2020 When I went on the site it seemed like everything was out of stock. That's a few times during covid I have been lucky on delivery. My quest was ordered at 0830 on a sunday and delivered by 2100 same day......lcos I'm a ucky man as the verve would sing lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaD CrC Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Hi Gizmokev. We have a Gazelle squadron operating EU times with a lot of ex military guys there. A really good bunch of passionate pilots. You might like it. http://www.blacksharkden.com or Discord https://discord.gg/kaayJ5z https://www.blacksharkden.com http://discord.gg/blacksharkden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shu77 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Do you use pedals in a hornet other than taxi.......lol Jet boy coordination is fly fast and dont stress about the ball......lol Not as much as when I use the Mustang. Warthog did use it occasionally to fine tune the canon. They are worth it to get around a carrier deck though. Hornet, Super Carrier, Warthog & (II), Mustang, Spitfire, Albatross, Sabre, Combined Arms, FC3, Nevada, Gulf, Normandy, Syria AH-6J i9 10900K @ 5.0GHz, Gigabyte Z490 Vision G, Cooler Master ML120L, Gigabyte RTX3080 OC Gaming 10Gb, 64GB RAM, Reverb G2 @ 2480x2428, TM Warthog, Saitek pedals & throttle, DIY collective, TrackIR4, Cougar MFDs, vx3276-2k Combat Wombat's Airfield & Enroute Maps and Planning Tools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmokev Posted June 11, 2020 Author Share Posted June 11, 2020 Hi Gizmokev. We have a Gazelle squadron operating EU times with a lot of ex military guys there. A really good bunch of passionate pilots. You might like it. http://www.blacksharkden.com or Discord https://discord.gg/kaayJ5z Joined...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmokev Posted June 11, 2020 Author Share Posted June 11, 2020 Not as much as when I use the Mustang. Warthog did use it occasionally to fine tune the canon. They are worth it to get around a carrier deck though. The Mustang reminds me of flying Chipmunks on grading flight at BRNC......tail draggers got to love them but need to find out how to apply a little differential brake to help steer..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heinzknocke Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 I would highly recommend MFG CROSSWIND pedals they are brilliant. Have a look for them on you tube some excellent videos on them. Heinz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmokev Posted June 11, 2020 Author Share Posted June 11, 2020 I would highly recommend MFG CROSSWIND pedals they are brilliant. Have a look for them on you tube some excellent videos on them. Heinz I have already taken the plunge on the VKB's....thanks for the tip though.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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