Bombs: no delayed fusing?

[LeCuvier]

I'm exercising with bombs vs ship, and I have to dive deep to get close to a hit. Unfortunately the bombs explode on impact and I have once destroyed my plane with the blast. Is there no way to set the bombs to explode with delay, like on the German fighters?

[pii]

I'm exercising with bombs vs ship, and I have to dive deep to get close to a hit. Unfortunately the bombs explode on impact and I have once destroyed my plane with the blast. Is there no way to set the bombs to explode with delay, like on the German fighters?

 

Delayed fusing is for the weak. Try releasing bombs earlier :)

[Basco1]

Delayed fusing is for the weak. Try releasing bombs earlier :)

 

 

B******t......using a delayed fuse shows measured thinking and being wise,we're not at home to the Kamikaze here old chap.

 

I agree LeCuvier,fuseable bombs were used extensively during WW2,so to have the option is not asking for anything that wasn't available

[pii]

B******t......using a delayed fuse shows measured thinking and being wise,we're not at home to the Kamikaze here old chap.

 

I agree LeCuvier,fuseable bombs were used extensively during WW2,so to have the option is not asking for anything that wasn't available

 

Shows Measure? THIS IS WAR not a cooking class! :joystick::pilotfly: Kamikaze if need be! lol

[Eldur]

I wasn't even aware of DCS having that feature at all... back in the day in that other sim, it's been used heavily. But I also remember skip bombing ships without since the bombs lost their effectiveness with a delay there. Doing it right had to be mastered though...

[QuiGon]

There is no delayed fuzing in DCS at all.

[Basco1]

There is no delayed fuzing in DCS at all.

 

Yes,I think we're all aware of that.....but if DCS is going to get serious about it's WW2 content,it needs to implement some options in bomb fusing.

 

We're not asking to assemble the Hadron Collider here either,just some simple fusing 5 sec,10 sec,25 sec etc......gotta be straight forward surely,and it's historical,so it should be available IMHO.

[philstyle]

There is no delayed fuzing in DCS at all.

 

 

I think the German aircraft carry delayed fused bombs... well, at least for me they do..

[xvii-Dietrich]

There is no delayed fuzing in DCS at all.

 

What?!

 

I think you mean "no delayed fuzing in the DCS P-47".

 

There are delayed fuzes in DCS more generally. I was flying a FW 190 A8 about 10 minutes ago... and was using delayed fuzes. It worked perfectly fine. Same for the D9 and K4.

 

If the fuzes are set by the ground crew (which is my understanding of Allied aircraft), then a possible implementation would be to have two types of bombs. E.g.

 

 

• AN-64 (instantaneous)
  
• AN-64 (delayed)
  

 

They are fitted during rearm/refuel and you choose then. Same warhead; different fuze.

[Basco1]

I think the German aircraft carry delayed fused bombs... well, at least for me they do..

 

Yes,apologies on my part for not being clear on what I was replying about,re this thread.I just assumed we were all talking about the allied bob fusing issue,or lack of it,as we are replying to P-47D section.

 

I appreciate the axis bombs can be delayed,albeit very simple,ie delayed/non delayed.

Edited June 14, 2020 by Basco1

[LeCuvier]

There is no delayed fuzing in DCS at all.

Where did you get that "information"? All 3 German fighters have the same 4 fusing options:

Wagerecht mV (mit Verzögerung) Horizontal with delay

 

Wagerecht oV (ohne Verzögerung) Horizontal without delay

 

Sturz mV Dive with delay

 

Sturz oV Dive without delay

[fencible]

The problem with delayed fusing is that there is certainly no accounting for the effects of delayed fuse bomb penetration. Bombs exploding 5 of 10 feet under the ground should have their blast radius reduced considerably - but that would be so complex to calculate. You would need to classify all the terrain on any map by how deep the soil (if any) is at any location. Same for building structures. I think that DCS does account for penetration delay on hardened targets like bunkers, but that's about it, as far as I know.

[71st_AH Rob]

They already behave like the bomb is detonating 15' underground now, just instantly. The challenge now is making them behave as if they were detonating on impact and even more challenging will be modelling the behaviour of proximity fuses.

 

I think that a simple check box in the armoring screen for allied fighters would suffice to tell the ground crew what delay to select.

[LeCuvier]

I'm not interested in bombs that penetrate deeply into anything. I want to survive low-level bomb attacks.

[Basco1]

I'm not interested in bombs that penetrate deeply into anything. I want to survive low-level bomb attacks.

 

Exactly this.....

 

I have recently been reading up on the Mossie,now they definitely used delayed fuses,so when that's released,it won't be authentic unless it's ordnance has the delayed fuse option.

 

The whole concept of the majority of their low level attacks were done at tree top level,drop a bomb at this height without a delayed fuse,and it's goodnight Vienna.

Edited June 15, 2020 by Basco1

[QuiGon]

Where did you get that "information"?

Own disappointing experience with a bunch of different aircraft in DCS, although most of them are jets. I know you can set them to be delayed, but I've never seen this setting to make any difference.

[iFoxRomeo]

Own disappointing experience with a bunch of different aircraft in DCS, although most of them are jets. I know you can set them to be delayed, but I've never seen this setting to make any difference.

 

You can drop the bomb with delayed fusing just before the aircraft hits the ground. Without delay you have no chance to survive. With delay you climb a few feet, initiate a turn, look back and see the explosion and your aircraft is perfectly fine (unless you are hit by groundfire)

 

There seems to be no difference in "waagrecht" or "sturz".

 

Fox

[QuiGon]

You can drop the bomb with delayed fusing just before the aircraft hits the ground. Without delay you have no chance to survive. With delay you climb a few feet, initiate a turn, look back and see the explosion and your aircraft is perfectly fine (unless you are hit by groundfire)

 

There seems to be no difference in "waagrecht" or "sturz".

 

Fox

Good to know. I haven't tried it in the german warbirds for some time.