jason_peters Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 (edited) Hi After some advice Just upgraded from a 1080TI to a 2080TI (other system in my sig) Running Vis range Med Water High Shadows High AA x2 AF x8 PD @ 1.3 I did run the same settings with my 1080 except I had to have PD @ 1.2 but it was always smooth Now with the 2080TI even at 1.3 I get an issue where the picture 'vibrates' when over a large city, down low, looking out to the side & down.... The issue is between a stutter and vibration of the picture very frustrated as I was expecting for my £1200 to be able to easily run at PD 1.5 Did a clean install of driver deleted the FXo and Shaders DIR Am I expecting too much from the card and I should settle running at 1.2 PD :( Any advice appreciated Thank Edited July 11, 2020 by jason_peters --------- System: i7-8700k @ 4.9GHz; Nvidia RTX 2080ti; 32GB (2 x 16) DDR4 @ 3333Mz Ram; ASUS ROG Strix z370-E; SSD Drive; Oculus Rift-S; Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Forget the Shadows at high, and the MSAA x2. As I’ve said a million times before, in VR, it’s only shadows, MSAA and SteamVR SS/PD that are important in terms of performance. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 If your CPU is running closer to 4.9 GHz ( can't tell for sure from your sig) I don't think you should be seeing what you are seeing. You said clean install of the drivers? Did you remove the old drivers with Display Driver Uninstaller while disconnected from the internet, and then do a clean install of latest drivers? Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_peters Posted July 11, 2020 Author Share Posted July 11, 2020 thanks for initial thoughts I did not use Display Driver Uninstaller -- but did this morning - but the same issue remains The CUP is running at 4.9 all the time via turbo boost - no heat problems I could turn down shadows - but my point being I'm seeing no real improvements over my 1080TI (which I ran on high shadows) except I can now whit 80 FPS when not down low / over busy areas I could not recommend the upgrade currently just for DCS Good news is in diving sims I am seeing the improvement - so not a total waste of money Any other suggestions on what he issue my be?? --------- System: i7-8700k @ 4.9GHz; Nvidia RTX 2080ti; 32GB (2 x 16) DDR4 @ 3333Mz Ram; ASUS ROG Strix z370-E; SSD Drive; Oculus Rift-S; Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 I would recommend the upgrade for DCS. I saw about 15-20% improvement with the 2080Ti compared to my old 1080Ti. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boedha68 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 I am stunned. Why buy now a 2080ti? A card that is 2 years Old on full price? In 3 months the 3080ti is there with 40% increase to the 2080ti. Sorry, I simply just don't get it. Sure I saved the money too... just waiting for the real monster card. :D New system:I9-9900KS, Kingston 128 GB DDR4 3200Mhz, MSI RTX 4090, Corsair H150 Pro RGB, 2xSamsung 970 EVO 2Tb, 2xsamsung 970 EVO 1 TB, Scandisk m2 500 MB, 2 x Crucial 1 Tb, T16000M HOTAS, HP Reverb Professional 2, Corsair 750 Watt. Old system:I7-4770K(OC 4.5Ghz), Kingston 24 GB DDR3 1600 Mhz,MSI RTX 2080(OC 2070 Mhz), 2 * 500 GB SSD, 3,5 TB HDD, 55' Samsung 3d tv, Trackir 5, Logitech HD Cam, T16000M HOTAS. All DCS modules, maps and campaigns:pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csgo GE oh yeah Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 1080 ti was a beast card. 2080 ti was only 20% faster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz1004 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Most don't seem to understand the OP's question. He's saying with everything being equal why he's not seeing the expected improvement. Not why he spent the money or "Works fine for me" My guess is that your bottleneck is somewhere else. You have 16GB RAM. That's minimum spec for VR and 32GB is recommended spec. Better Smoke - Better Trees Caucasus - Better Trees Syria - Better Trees Mariana - Clear Canopy Glass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricktoberfest Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 Most don't seem to understand the OP's question. He's saying with everything being equal why he's not seeing the expected improvement. Not why he spent the money or "Works fine for me" My guess is that your bottleneck is somewhere else. You have 16GB RAM. That's minimum spec for VR and 32GB is recommended spec. I would agree. This isn’t his card isn’t fast enough- this is a stutter issue which often comes down to memory. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglecash867 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 I would agree. This isn’t his card isn’t fast enough- this is a stutter issue which often comes down to memory. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk In addition to the memory issue already mentioned, the "vibration" when looking out to the side sounds like it could be that ASW on your Rift S is turned off. If it was running well with your 1080ti, try setting all of your graphics settings back to where they were with that and see if that gives you the same results you had with the 1080ti. But, as I said, the picture looking like its "vibrating" when looking to the sides and down sounds like ASW is turned off. Before you fly, try moving your head laterally and see if the cockpit image "smears". You can also turn on the in-game FPS counter and see if it is locked at 40 FPS. If the FPS counter constantly fluctuates with numbers anywhere between 40 and 80, ASW isn't turned on. EVGA Z690 Classified, Intel i9 12900KS Alder Lake processor, MSI MAG Core Liquid 360R V2 AIO Liquid CPU Cooler, G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series 64GB DDR5 6400 memory, EVGA RTX3090 FTW3 Ultra 24GB video card, Samsung 980PRO 1TB M2.2280 SSD for Windows 10 64-bit OS, Samsung 980PRO 2TB M2.2280 SSD for program files, LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray burner. HOTAS Warthog, Saitek Pedals, HP Reverb G2. Partridge and pear tree pending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneak_King18 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 real question is, what resolution are you running in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz1004 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 real question is, what resolution are you running in? That's irrelevant. He said settings are same between 1080TI and 2080TI. Resolution is same in VR and he mentioned the PD he's running with both. Can double check the SteamVR SS settings since if it's set to Auto, it might set itself higher with 2080TI. Better Smoke - Better Trees Caucasus - Better Trees Syria - Better Trees Mariana - Clear Canopy Glass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revs Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 looks like you ram clock is the bottle neck. one way to verify is to downclock your ram and you should see a significant lost in performance. Ryzen 1700 @ 3.8GHz / 32GB( 4x8 ) @ 3.2GHz / 1TB ADATA NVMe System Drive / 232GB NVMe Samsung 960 / ASUS dual RTX 2080ti / Reverb / Rift CV1 / T-16000M FCS flight pack A10C/M2000C/F5E/SA342/Mi8/UH1H/KA50/AJS-37/FA-18C/AV-8B/F-14/Mig29/CA/SU-27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dali Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 buy more RAM. I used to have 16 GB, recently added 32 GB and frame rates have gone up. DCS is RAM hungry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_peters Posted July 15, 2020 Author Share Posted July 15, 2020 thanks all for the responses I purchased 32BG RAM. got it running at 3.33GH (its 3.6 but will not boot at that rate) Its better...... now can run Water High Vis range Med Shadows High AA x 2 AF x 8 PD 1.3 Without stutter (except the channel map which still stutters) Can't go above 1.3 PD though else the stutters are back --------- System: i7-8700k @ 4.9GHz; Nvidia RTX 2080ti; 32GB (2 x 16) DDR4 @ 3333Mz Ram; ASUS ROG Strix z370-E; SSD Drive; Oculus Rift-S; Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz1004 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 I'd try putting the 1080Ti back in to see if your problem really was graphic card. See if you're running any Supersampling on your Oculus software. PD and Supersampling will multiply each other exponentially. Better Smoke - Better Trees Caucasus - Better Trees Syria - Better Trees Mariana - Clear Canopy Glass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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