ED Team NineLine Posted July 21, 2020 Author ED Team Share Posted July 21, 2020 Steam doesn't give miles. EDs program adds up to a nice discount I am not saying I prefer people to use Steam, I am only saying some use it for those reasons, for sure, if you asked me, I would tell you to go standalone every time. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Can we buy the ED shop version then activate it on Steam? EDIT: Sry, just looked at the store page, grr. Why anyone in the world would prefer steam over standalone when come to DCS If this because personal preference then don't complaint about pricing Go with standalone Support ED Ed lose more money just to make it available on another platform Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle7907 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 To satisfy my own curiosity, if it’s best to use standalone (which I do), then why did ED decide to offer DCS World on Steam? I can see if it was maybe an attempt to increase their base of players, but now it seems like it only is going to create a divide with how Valve is infrequent to sales and promos from ED. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Win 10, AMD FX9590/water cooled, 32GB RAM, 250GB SSD system, 1TB SSD (DCS installed), 2TB HD, Warthog HOTAS, MFG rudders, Track IR 5, LG Ultrawide, Logitech Speakers w/sub, Fans, Case, cell phone, wallet, keys.....printer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veenee Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Why anyone in the world would prefer steam over standalone when come to DCS Is paying less good enough reason? If you buy in other currency than dollars, pounds or euros, you might pay less if you buy on Steam. So many modules, so little time... www.mikphotography.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Steam is just another platform thanks made available At times its cheaper and more affordable in steam however comparing to standalone there could be some limitation on steam Just imagine if you're selling a product you may not only sell on Amazon but might sell on etsy and eBay as well Well known products always available cross platform It's always best to do some research before commit to buy something Just my 2 cents Get DCS standalone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpipe Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 but now it seems like it only is going to create a divide with how Valve is infrequent to sales and promos from ED. That divide will be abolished when steam users realize they can just port everything to standalone and therefor get access to the best terms. You only need to make that realization once. I use standalone, i first encountered DCS on steam but luckily for me i did some research before buying my first module and downloaded the standalone client. Other simulators are the same, or at least one which i won't mention because...rules. It's only a problem if you are inclined to get your pantyhose in a twist over very little. And even then...getting access to ED miles will surely untwist their pantyhose...:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngreenaway Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Is paying less good enough reason? If you buy in other currency than dollars, pounds or euros, you might pay less if you buy on Steam. sales start earlier& run longer on standalone, generally [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] DCS: The most expensive free game you'll ever play Modules: All of them System: I9-9900k, ROG Maximus , 32gb ram, RTX2070 Founder's Edition, t16000,hotas, pedals & cougar MFD, HP Reverb 1.2, HTC VIVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngreenaway Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 To satisfy my own curiosity, if it’s best to use standalone (which I do), then why did ED decide to offer DCS World on Steam? valves near monopoly on video game distribution means theres a large amount of players on that platform that can be exposed to dcs who otherwise wouldnt be i suppose then it becomes a question of whether a lot of modules sold for a reduced profit is better than a reduced number of modules sold for full profit [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] DCS: The most expensive free game you'll ever play Modules: All of them System: I9-9900k, ROG Maximus , 32gb ram, RTX2070 Founder's Edition, t16000,hotas, pedals & cougar MFD, HP Reverb 1.2, HTC VIVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viper2097 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Without steam, gameing on the desktop computer wouldn't be there where it is today. If it would even exist anymore. Don't blame steam if you clearly not useing it, because then you don't know all those advantages. If ED has a problem with steam, they should easily not offer DCS on steam. But on the other hand, steam is probably the best ressource for gaining new customers - and the DCS userbase on steam is growing constantly. I can understand that probably not everything they do in their shop is possible at steam also (valve has their restrictions, and they know why), but then there should be also an adequate solution for those users. So they don't feel like treated as second class. Steam user - Youtube I am for quality over quantity in DCS modules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted July 22, 2020 Author ED Team Share Posted July 22, 2020 Without steam, gameing on the desktop computer wouldn't be there where it is today. If it would even exist anymore. Don't blame steam if you clearly not useing it, because then you don't know all those advantages. If ED has a problem with steam, they should easily not offer DCS on steam. But on the other hand, steam is probably the best ressource for gaining new customers - and the DCS userbase on steam is growing constantly. I can understand that probably not everything they do in their shop is possible at steam also (valve has their restrictions, and they know why), but then there should be also an adequate solution for those users. So they don't feel like treated as second class. Let's keep the topic on the Syria map please, we have tried very hard to keep Steam as equal as we can, but it's just not always possible. This should not be considered as 2nd class, as you say, you understand that we can do more for our own e-shop, so then you can understand why there are limitations with Steam. Thanks. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veenee Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 sales start earlier& run longer on standalone, generally It still doesn't change the fact that on Steam modules are sometimes cheaper as I outlined earlier. Also, can't you try a DLC on Steam and refund it if you don't like it (if not played for more than 2h/2 weeks since purchuse)? I don't even use Steam for DCS, but there are good sides of it for sure. So many modules, so little time... www.mikphotography.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala12Rv-Tundra Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Why anyone in the world would prefer steam over standalone when come to DCS If this because personal preference then don't complaint about pricing Go with standalone Support ED Ed lose more money just to make it available on another platform Losing money is far different from gaining less money, per sale. I think ED marketing guys know their numbers and are more than happy partnering with Steam, but you seem to know better. Where do you buy Heatblur products, by the way? Back on topic, patiently waiting here for a Steam release. i5 8400 | 32 Gb RAM | RTX 2080Ti | Virpil Mongoose T-50 base w/ Warthog & Hornet sticks | Warthog throttle | Cougar throttle USB | DIY Collective | Virpil desk mount | VKB T-Rudder Mk IV | Oculus Rift S | Buddy-Fox A-10 UFC | 3x TM MFDs | 2x bass shakers pedal plate| SIMple SIMpit chair | WinWing TakeOff panel | PointCTRL v2 | Andre JetSeat | Winwing Hornet UFC | Winwing Viper ICP FC3 - Warthog - F-5E - Harrier - NTTR - Hornet - Tomcat - Huey - Viper - C-101 - PG - Hip - SuperCarrier - Syria - Warthog II - Hind - South Atlantic - Sinai - Strike Eagle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoYo Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Does anyone know how long the pre-order and the discount will be? Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 4090 24Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngreenaway Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Does anyone know how long the pre-order and the discount will be? If you hold off on preorder, Murphy says itll end about a day before you open your wallet If you preorder now, discount will probably go on another 6 months, then itll go on sale [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] DCS: The most expensive free game you'll ever play Modules: All of them System: I9-9900k, ROG Maximus , 32gb ram, RTX2070 Founder's Edition, t16000,hotas, pedals & cougar MFD, HP Reverb 1.2, HTC VIVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dokken1212 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Mine too. ;) Mine too - woohoo :-) Computer Specs: AMD Ryzen 9 3900x Thermaltake 360 AIO Water Cooler 32GB Corsair Vengeance 3600Mhz RGB RAM GeForce RTX 2080 Super [ NVIDIA] 512GB Adata M2 NVME (boot drive) 1TB Adata M2 NVME 1TB WD Blue SSD Corsair RM850x Power Supply Phanteks Enthoo Evolve Case Samsung 43" 4K Smart TV (used as monitor) TRACK IR 5 + Wireless DelanClip Head Tracker Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS :pilotfly::pilotfly::pilotfly::pilotfly::pilotfly::pilotfly::pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMFA117_Poko Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 If you hold off on preorder, Murphy says itll end about a day before you open your wallet If you preorder now, discount will probably go on another 6 months, then itll go on sale:megalol: Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala12Rv-Tundra Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 If you hold off on preorder, Murphy says itll end about a day before you open your wallet If you preorder now, discount will probably go on another 6 months, then itll go on sale That´s a fact :lol::lol::lol: i5 8400 | 32 Gb RAM | RTX 2080Ti | Virpil Mongoose T-50 base w/ Warthog & Hornet sticks | Warthog throttle | Cougar throttle USB | DIY Collective | Virpil desk mount | VKB T-Rudder Mk IV | Oculus Rift S | Buddy-Fox A-10 UFC | 3x TM MFDs | 2x bass shakers pedal plate| SIMple SIMpit chair | WinWing TakeOff panel | PointCTRL v2 | Andre JetSeat | Winwing Hornet UFC | Winwing Viper ICP FC3 - Warthog - F-5E - Harrier - NTTR - Hornet - Tomcat - Huey - Viper - C-101 - PG - Hip - SuperCarrier - Syria - Warthog II - Hind - South Atlantic - Sinai - Strike Eagle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rss0900 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 When will this be available in early access? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpipe Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 When will this be available in early access? 2-3 weeks is my guess. Next OB update hopefully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aleader Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 2-3 weeks is my guess. Next OB update hopefully Are the maps when they are released only available in Open Beta or is it released to stable as well? I know the modules are open beta, but I've never purchased a map when it was first released. "I mean, I guess it would just be a guy who you know, grabs bananas and runs. Or, um, a banana that grabs things. Why would a banana grab another banana? I mean, those are the kind of questions I don't want to answer." - Michael Bluth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpipe Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Are the maps when they are released only available in Open Beta or is it released to stable as well? I know the modules are open beta, but I've never purchased a map when it was first released. Yeah seems to be the way. Hopefully though it wont be too long before stable release Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctguy1955 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 I bought the Syria Map today and with My Points, it would have been $3.99 I chose to pay full price and save the points on a 80 dollar plane/Jet. After seeing Matts video, I knew that flying the F16 near the sea that I can duck into the valleys and live for another day... Clear Skies Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted July 27, 2020 Author ED Team Share Posted July 27, 2020 $3.99!! Admit it, you just felt guilty :D Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptHawk Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 $3.99!! Admit it, you just felt guilty :DI know I would Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] AMP WIZARD "Forest Gumble" "When the air becomes electric....It's like a box of chocolates":captain: Windows 11 Pro 64 bit | Intel Alder Lake i7 12700KF | Asus Prime Z690M Plus D4 | CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 64GB (2 x 32GB) DDR4 3200 | EVGA GTX 1070 SC @1594MHz/4000 MHz 8GB | 1x42" Multi Touch Screen and 1x27" 4k widescreen | Saitek x52 Pro | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngreenaway Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 I bought the Syria Map today and with My Points, it would have been $3.99 I chose to pay full price and save the points on a 80 dollar plane/Jet. After seeing Matts video, I knew that flying the F16 near the sea that I can duck into the valleys and live for another day... Clear Skies Mike im that way too, ive got almost $55 in points, the syria map coulda been free but im holding out for the hind steam users are really missing out with those points!! im really hyped about this map, israel is at the top of the short list of places id like to retire to . this will really give a lot of relevancy to a lot of modules (even some of the warbirds!) but especially for the f16 (i know its wrong variant for IAF, dont care) also, with the ah-6 mod, embassy storming could be fun :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] DCS: The most expensive free game you'll ever play Modules: All of them System: I9-9900k, ROG Maximus , 32gb ram, RTX2070 Founder's Edition, t16000,hotas, pedals & cougar MFD, HP Reverb 1.2, HTC VIVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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