Shadoware Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 F-16 can reach mach 2.0 right? I can only get there in a dive and no other way, it doesn't matter altitude or lack of payload or pylons! Is that occurring because flight model is not accurate yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razo+r Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 I've already reached Mach 2.02 in a straight line with it. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/346332824191893504/629676385333411870/Screen_191004_153850.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl Dynamic Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 What altitude did you test this on and which speed did you read? Remember IAS or CAS is not the same as EAS or TAS or Mach number. Aeordynamic speeds are quite a deep and confusing topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadoware Posted July 31, 2020 Author Share Posted July 31, 2020 I set the hud to TAS. I tried at 20000 feet, 30000, 35000. 40000 The aircraft seem to stabilize at 1.94 or around this number. I tried in PG map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfox1 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Yeah I've Tested the F-16 Engine, it's about 50% of the real engines... I fly the F-16s in realistic Simulators, and I've never seen such a bad-performance engine for an F-16... I think they made it on purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quid Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Are you flying it clean? The instant you hang rails on it, it's going to increase the drag and you'll wind up with a lower top speed. I hit 2.01M at about 35,800 feet ASL and held it for over a minute before throttling back with clean wings (wingtip rails) and the fuel tank rail on the belly no problem. Rig: i9 10900KF @5.3GHz | 64GB G.Skill DDR4 3600MHz | ASUS ROG STRIX RTX 3090 24GB OC | ASUS Maximus XII Formula | 2x 2TB Intel SSD6 NVMe M.2 | VKB F-14CG on Gunfighter III Base | TM Warthog HOTAS | TM Rudder Pedals | HP Reverb G2 Hangar: FC3 | F-86F | F-4E [Pre-Ordered] | F-5E | F-14A/B | F-15E | F-16C | F/A-18C | Mirage 2000C | JF-17 | MiG-15bis | MiG-19P | MiG-21bis | AJS-37 | AV-8B | L39 | C-101 | A-10C/CII | Yak-52 | P-51D | P-47D | Fw 190 A-8/D-9 | Bf 109 | Spitfire | I-16 | UH-1 Huey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadoware Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 (edited) Are you flying it clean? The instant you hang rails on it, it's going to increase the drag and you'll wind up with a lower top speed. I hit 2.01M at about 35,800 feet ASL and held it for over a minute before throttling back with clean wings (wingtip rails) and the fuel tank rail on the belly no problem. Yeah I was completely clean! How long did you take to reach mach 2.0? The problem I see is that close to mach 1.9 and above the speed increase rate becomes so slow that I'm gonna run out of fuel long before reaching mac 2.0. Edited August 1, 2020 by Shadoware Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadoware Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 Yeah I've Tested the F-16 Engine, it's about 50% of the real engines... I fly the F-16s in realistic Simulators, and I've never seen such a bad-performance engine for an F-16... I think they made it on purpose. This module is early access so its not ready but why would they do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverdevil Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 I've already reached Mach 2.02 in a straight line with it. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/346332824191893504/629676385333411870/Screen_191004_153850.png http://www.csgnetwork.com/tasinfocalc.html according to the image 1085 which is in deed below mach 2 https://www.fighter-planes.com/jetmach1.htm mach is affected by temperature which of course is lower at higher altitudes. AKA_SilverDevil AKA Forums My YouTube “It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.” — Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etirion Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Yeah I've Tested the F-16 Engine, it's about 50% of the real engines... I fly the F-16s in realistic Simulators, and I've never seen such a bad-performance engine for an F-16... I think they made it on purpose. Wow! Only 50%! So that means that those realistic simulators and the real F16 have a T/W of over 2:1, incredible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quid Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Yeah I was completely clean! How long did you take to reach mach 2.0? The problem I see is that close to mach 1.9 and above the speed increase rate becomes so slow that I'm gonna run out of fuel long before reaching mac 2.0. From the time I broke 1.0M to the time Tacview showed me reliably holding at 2.0M, it was 3 minutes 47 seconds. I dropped back below 2.0M at 5 minutes, 32 seconds after breaking 1.0M. Rig: i9 10900KF @5.3GHz | 64GB G.Skill DDR4 3600MHz | ASUS ROG STRIX RTX 3090 24GB OC | ASUS Maximus XII Formula | 2x 2TB Intel SSD6 NVMe M.2 | VKB F-14CG on Gunfighter III Base | TM Warthog HOTAS | TM Rudder Pedals | HP Reverb G2 Hangar: FC3 | F-86F | F-4E [Pre-Ordered] | F-5E | F-14A/B | F-15E | F-16C | F/A-18C | Mirage 2000C | JF-17 | MiG-15bis | MiG-19P | MiG-21bis | AJS-37 | AV-8B | L39 | C-101 | A-10C/CII | Yak-52 | P-51D | P-47D | Fw 190 A-8/D-9 | Bf 109 | Spitfire | I-16 | UH-1 Huey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcon_120 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Wow! Only 50%! So that means that those realistic simulators and the real F16 have a T/W of over 2:1, incredible!XD. He supercruise at Mach 1.6 full of weapons in that simulator Enviado desde mi ELE-L29 mediante Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfox1 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 (edited) You guys know nothing about avionics. Sorry to tell you. Im a former test pilot in R.A.S. But if you think United States Air Force is planning to defend its borders against the russians overseas at 2,000NM With Aim-120 for 18NM.. Than sorry to bust your dream... it wont happen. Missiles reach far beyond this simulator. Its a matter of life and death. Aim-120D goes beyond 160NM... The first Aim-120A in early 80s was at 18-30NM.. I dunno why you keep calling it C... its A. Edited August 2, 2020 by Wolfox1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadpool Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 This is really not what we needed. Lincoln said: “Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." Do not expect a reply to any questions, 30.06.2021 - Silenced by Nineline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quid Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 You guys know nothing about avionics. Sorry to tell you. Im a former test pilot in R.A.S. But if you think United States Air Force is planning to defend its borders against the russians overseas at 2,000NM With Aim-120 for 18NM.. Than sorry to bust your dream... it wont happen. Missiles reach far beyond this simulator. Its a matter of life and death. Aim-120D goes beyond 160NM... The first Aim-120A in early 80s was at 18-30NM.. I dunno why you keep calling it C... its A. Okay, trolling is one thing, but now you're moving towards Stolen Valor. I'd suggest stopping right there. That said, this has gotten completely off topic. My hope is OP was able to figure out getting the jet above 2.0M. Any word? Rig: i9 10900KF @5.3GHz | 64GB G.Skill DDR4 3600MHz | ASUS ROG STRIX RTX 3090 24GB OC | ASUS Maximus XII Formula | 2x 2TB Intel SSD6 NVMe M.2 | VKB F-14CG on Gunfighter III Base | TM Warthog HOTAS | TM Rudder Pedals | HP Reverb G2 Hangar: FC3 | F-86F | F-4E [Pre-Ordered] | F-5E | F-14A/B | F-15E | F-16C | F/A-18C | Mirage 2000C | JF-17 | MiG-15bis | MiG-19P | MiG-21bis | AJS-37 | AV-8B | L39 | C-101 | A-10C/CII | Yak-52 | P-51D | P-47D | Fw 190 A-8/D-9 | Bf 109 | Spitfire | I-16 | UH-1 Huey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinder Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 (edited) Wow! Only 50%! So that means that those realistic simulators and the real F16 have a T/W of over 2:1, incredible! In your wildest dreams. http://www.f-16.net/f-16_versions.html Go there and try to find me a variant of the F-16 with a 2.1 TWR... Max Mach is always computed in optimum conditions at best altitude and thrust settings, at combat weight a MLU have a TWR of 0.94. Specifications Engine: One Pratt & Whitney F100-PW-220 turbofan, rated at 14,590 lb.s.t. dry and 23,770 lb.s.t. with afterburning. Maximum speed: Mach 2.05 at 40,000 feet. Service ceiling 55,000 feet. Maximum range 2400 miles. Initial climb rate 62,000 feet per minute. Dimensions: wingspan 32 feet 9 1/2 inches, length 49 feet 3 1/2 inches, height 16 feet 8 1/2 inches, wing area 300 square feet. Weights: 16,285 pounds empty, 25,281 pounds combat, 37,500 pounds maximum takeoff. Edited August 2, 2020 by Thinder Win 11Pro. Corsair RM1000X PSU. ASUS TUF Gaming X570-PLUS [WI-FI], AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3D, Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 XTX Nitro+ Vapor-X 24GB GDDR6. 32 GB G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series (4 x 8GB) RAM Cl14 DDR4 3600. Thrustmaster HOTAS WARTHOG Thrustmaster. TWCS Throttle. PICO 4 256GB. WARNING: Message from AMD: Windows Automatic Update may have replaced their driver by one of their own. Check your drivers. M-2000C. Mirage F1. F/A-18C Hornet. F-15C. F-5E Tiger II. MiG-29 "Fulcrum". Avatar: Escadron de Chasse 3/3 Ardennes. Fly like a Maineyak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Yeah I've Tested the F-16 Engine, No, you haven't. it's about 50% of the real engines... No, it isn't. I fly the F-16s in realistic Simulators, No, you don't. and I've never seen such a bad-performance engine for an F-16... I think they made it on purpose. You haven't seen any engine performance for anything. The F-16 performance graphs are available publicly. Show us exactly where your tests differ from the real life performance graphs. (aka, this is how we know you're either a troll or a fake). [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 In which case, it is probably a good idea to check the mission's temperature settings. Higher temperature results in less performance. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederf Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Aren't the F-16's "remove pylons" options simply cosmetic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quid Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Aren't the F-16's "remove pylons" options simply cosmetic? No, they actually have drag value. Rig: i9 10900KF @5.3GHz | 64GB G.Skill DDR4 3600MHz | ASUS ROG STRIX RTX 3090 24GB OC | ASUS Maximus XII Formula | 2x 2TB Intel SSD6 NVMe M.2 | VKB F-14CG on Gunfighter III Base | TM Warthog HOTAS | TM Rudder Pedals | HP Reverb G2 Hangar: FC3 | F-86F | F-4E [Pre-Ordered] | F-5E | F-14A/B | F-15E | F-16C | F/A-18C | Mirage 2000C | JF-17 | MiG-15bis | MiG-19P | MiG-21bis | AJS-37 | AV-8B | L39 | C-101 | A-10C/CII | Yak-52 | P-51D | P-47D | Fw 190 A-8/D-9 | Bf 109 | Spitfire | I-16 | UH-1 Huey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted August 2, 2020 ED Team Share Posted August 2, 2020 Hi all Please read the forum rules, and please treat each other with respect, if you can not, do not post. Thread cleaned Thank you Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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