announced DCS MiG-29A

[Volator]

1 hour ago, Dragon1-1 said:

It's a bit funny on takeoff and landing

Yes, that's what I'm talking about. That's where the oddities are apparent.

 

1 hour ago, GGTharos said:

And because those same intricacies are described in the aircraft's manual.

Yes, I said so. That still doesn't mean the plane should be nervous on the controls, as RL videos suggest.

 

1 hour ago, GGTharos said:

Maybe people should focus on their flying technique.

Yeah, right... Here we go again. The cycle of derogatory comments is on again.

 

1 hour ago, Dragon1-1 said:

If someone wants to recreate the way the real plane is controlled, DCS should allow it.

Sure, but by writing this you probably don't mean that the majority of players that doesn't create their own set of controls should consequently be ignored, do you?

[yufighter]

 

Gierasimov,

 

I would be very grateful if you could record a * .trk file in which you make 4-5 connected traffic circuits (with landing) on the MIG-29 and set it up for download.

hank you!

Edited February 15, 2021 by yufighter

[Mars Exulte]

31 minutes ago, yufighter said:

 

Gierasimov,

 

I would be very grateful if you could record a * .trk file in which you make 4-5 connected traffic circuits (with landing) on the MIG-29 and set it up for download.

hank you!

 

 

  The forum for the 29 is literally full of videos of both people rough landing/crashing it and landing it successfully. Ironhand did a number of tutorial videos on it, in particular demonstrating flying it according to the manual's directions. It's not hard to find videos of such things

 

 

Ninja'd by Northstar looks like

Edited February 15, 2021 by zhukov032186

[probad]

conquering forum threads is always easier than conquering your own ineptitude

Edited February 15, 2021 by probad

[Northstar98]

29 minutes ago, yufighter said:

 

Gierasimov,

 

I would be very grateful if you could record a * .trk file in which you make 4-5 connected traffic circuits (with landing) on the MIG-29 and set it up for download.

hank you!

 

 

 

[DaWu]

When I google the cockpit of the Mig29A I see a lot of gauges but not one single mfd. that’s bad. I would love to have some modern RED Ac but not something out of a museum. 

[zerO_crash]

20 minutes ago, DaWu said:

When I google the cockpit of the Mig29A I see a lot of gauges but not one single mfd. that’s bad. I would love to have some modern RED Ac but not something out of a museum. 

 

It has a radar screen, which shows much good info not related to radar as well. It´s not a MFD, and you´re not going to see a RED aircraft with one for some time I am afraid. Secrecy

[Mars Exulte]

1 hour ago, DaWu said:

When I google the cockpit of the Mig29A I see a lot of gauges but not one single mfd. that’s bad. I would love to have some modern RED Ac but not something out of a museum. 

 

  JF-17 is Red (ish? PurpleFor?) that uses the RD-33 engine in the MiG-29 and if I remember correctly is (very) loosely based on a MiG fighter. It's got Russian blood pumping in those Chinese veins :D All bs aside, that's a pretty interesting aircraft, though I haven't bought it yet.

[TotenDead]

4 часа назад, zhukov032186 сказал:

 

  JF-17 is Red (ish? PurpleFor?)

 

BrownFor.

4 часа назад, zhukov032186 сказал:

 that uses the RD-33 engine in the MiG-29

yep

4 часа назад, zhukov032186 сказал:

and if I remember correctly is (very) loosely based on a MiG fighter.

Ye, Mig-21

4 часа назад, zhukov032186 сказал:

It's got Russian blood pumping in those Chinese veins All bs aside, that's a pretty interesting aircraft, though I haven't bought it yet.

 

Well, with this logic i suppose you could say that MiG-21 is bluefor then. It's operated by nato countries and can carry R-3S missiles that are copies of aim-9Bs. Excellent replacement of phantom!

[Mars Exulte]

10 hours ago, TotenDead said:

Well, with this logic i suppose you could say that MiG-21 is bluefor then. It's operated by nato countries and can carry R-3S missiles that are copies of aim-9Bs. Excellent replacement of phantom!

  No, my logic in comparing it to a ''modern MiG-29'' is it's a similar sized fighter, with similar high performance, similar avionics, using weaponry with similar capabilities, based on related technology and using the same engine. Is it a modern MiG-29? No, but it's very similar, with direct lineage to the MiG line even, and is flown by a nominally hostile non-allied nation.

 

  I know you thought you were being very ''clever'' with your comeback, but it is very much not the same category of suggestion I made. The Jf-17 and MiG-29 have a long list of similar characteristics, no matter how butthurt you may be at the notion.

 

The MiG-21 and F-4 have exactly three similarities : timeframe, mach 2+, AiM-9b.

 

  So with this logic, I'm gonna say you gave exactly zero thought to your remark. -1 internetz to you, sir, try harder next time.

[yufighter]

Northstar98

I wasn't looking for a video, but a * .trk file. I don't need successful landing sequences. I was looking for a complete flight from takeoff to (touch and go) landing. Nobody wants to post that. What is the problem?

Edited February 17, 2021 by yufighter

[Northstar98]

Just now, yufighter said:

Northstar98

I wasn't looking for a video, but a * .trk file. I don't need successful landing sequences. I was looking for a complete flight from takeoff to landing. Nobody wants to post that. What is the problem?

 

 

Because I'm crap at flying it.

[Mars Exulte]

29 minutes ago, yufighter said:

Northstar98

I wasn't looking for a video, but a * .trk file. I don't need successful landing sequences. I was looking for a complete flight from takeoff to landing. Nobody wants to post that. What is the problem?

 

 

  Does this look like a deli? Just step up to the window and order whatever you want? Why is everyone else expected to fulfill YOUR request?

 

  There's a box in the top right labeled ''search''. You can type interesting phrases or words into it, and it will show you comments and threads with those words. You can do it as easily as anyone else can. Most websites have similar features, including YouTube.

Edited February 16, 2021 by zhukov032186

[yufighter]

зхуков032186

 

I just want to see how those who are successful in flying the MiG 29 do it. Unfortunately, I fail to control the DCS MiG29. No one is forcing you to upload a * .trk file with a flight recording. That would only be a help to us who are not coping with that aircraft.

Edited February 16, 2021 by yufighter

[Mars Exulte]

That's fine, but there's plenty of videos and threads on that, is my point, if you really want to see NOW, you aren't the first person to ask. There's no ''problem'', but people aren't going to drop what they're doing and run 4-5 circuits on demand. Especially since this is a well worn topic and there's tons of that stuff available already if you will ''search'' for it. That box is your friend

 

Hell, there's probably trks and vids posted in THIS thread if you look through it.

Edited February 16, 2021 by zhukov032186

[Ironhand]

1 hour ago, yufighter said:

Northstar98

I wasn't looking for a video, but a * .trk file. I don't need successful landing sequences. I was looking for a complete flight from takeoff to landing. Nobody wants to post that. What is the problem?

 

Not sure how precise you want things to be and this isn't absolutely by the numbers. It's been awhile since I've been in this cockpit and even longer since I've landed the thing. But here you go. The 2nd landing sucked eggs because I landed a bit short but, in my defense, I was still getting the feel of landing the aircraft but the rest aren't bad.

 

I apologise for the views. Didn't have much time to fly it and have to head into work. I usually "pretty up" the views before posting something like this.

MiG-29 Touch and Goes.trk

Edited February 16, 2021 by Ironhand

[Wizard_03]

On 2/15/2021 at 8:11 AM, Pilot Ike said:

Sorry, but no, my time is too precious for that. Check the FC3 Mig-29 forum, there have been a lot of discussions about the topic, and especially the Russian forum, there some supposedly RW Mig pilots also raised lots of concerns. 

 Many of those "concerns" were also directly addressed by EDs FM engineer in the exact same threads, if you bother to read them.

[yufighter]

Nice, thank you so much Ironhand!

[TotenDead]

12 часов назад, zhukov032186 сказал:

  No, my logic in comparing it to a ''modern MiG-29'' is it's a similar sized fighter,

Eh, not really similar, MiG is larger and its empty weight almost quals JF-17s max. takeoff weight 

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with similar high performance

Meh

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, similar avionics, using weaponry with similar capabilities,

That's somewhat true... ish

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Is it a modern MiG-29? No, but it's very similar

-_-

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The Jf-17 and MiG-29 have a long list of similar characteristics, no matter how butthurt you may be at the notion.

So, for example? Because atm 2000s MiG-29 is closer to our hornet or F-16 than to a JF-17

 

Edited February 17, 2021 by TotenDead

[Ironhand]

7 hours ago, yufighter said:

Nice, thank you so much Ironhand!

You’re quite welcome. Hopefully it was helpful.

[Hodo]

I want MIG-29SMU... that would be nice...

[Harlikwin]

17 minutes ago, Hodo said:

I want MIG-29SMU... that would be nice...

 

Well, when the F18 started ED said it would be a 90's model. Not sure on the viper. But the track record is to deliver "newer" versions than promised, so there is at least a precedent for it.

 

[Hodo]

2 minutes ago, Harlikwin said:

 

Well, when the F18 started ED said it would be a 90's model. Not sure on the viper. But the track record is to deliver "newer" versions than promised, so there is at least a precedent for it.

 

I highly doubt we will get a newer MiG-29 model.  Not any fault of ED but due to RU legal reasons.

[Harlikwin]

Just now, Hodo said:

I highly doubt we will get a newer MiG-29 model.  Not any fault of ED but due to RU legal reasons.

 

Personally I think you're right, but ED has "upgraded" versions in the past too. Slim chance IMO but It would fit better with the more modern western stuff. 

[Ironhand]

On 2/11/2021 at 10:31 AM, Jonne said:

For which case? Best economy, or intercept regime, or what is it?

Given the airspeed (comparable to 860 TAS for the Su-27) it’s the intercept profile for full mil power. So it’s speed with fuel economy.