New external sounds

[Cgjunk2]

I apologize for making a new thread just for this topic, but was surprised to see not many comments about the new external sounds. These new sounds sound a bit lower quality than the last ones (which I thought were fine). The sounds, while they sound rawer and more powerful, seem to my ears to come from an inferior sample, and sound loops are evident (kind of like the ‘m2000). The rear ext sound seems to be on an 8 second loop. The front ext sound displays similar looping quality. The transition from front to rear sounds is pretty sharp. There doesnt seem to be a qualitative difference in sound with the AB on either.

 

I really liked the old sounds. I hope the sounds get rolled back, or at least hope the current sounds get improved significantly. Besides the issues above, the external sounds seem a bit too aggressive compared to the f14.

[5ephir0th]

External sound are WIP as stated on the changelog

[btd]

I apologize for making a new thread just for this topic, but was surprised to see not many comments about the new external sounds

 

From the feedback I got, most people like the new sounds. However, there is still work to be done on the sounds. I would be very grateful if you show specifically in the video those nuances that you are extremely unhappy with. Desirable in comparison with real video

[MrDieing]

. There doesnt seem to be a qualitative difference in sound with the AB on either.

 

Multiple Hornet drivers have said that IRL you cant really make out the difference between full MIL and AB. What you hear mostly in the pit is the ECS. ED has already implemented the Loud A/B function in the Special Options for those who want to be unrealistic and can not read gauges.

 

As per the rest of your post, ED can not base their sim on your feelings and things that seem to you. If you prefer the old sounds there might be a mod coming and otherwhise it is what we call 'tough shit'.

[razo+r]

From the feedback I got, most people like the new sounds. However, there is still work to be done on the sounds. I would be very grateful if you show specifically in the video those nuances that you are extremely unhappy with. Desirable in comparison with real video

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=245153

 

Idle RPM and a bit above.

[Falkaroth]

I like the sound from the outside, only the inside has deteriorated in my opinion. I've waited a long time for the throttle sound!. Now we have it :thumbup:. No ... but this new beeping (not ecs) in the cockpit doesn't want to please me.:noexpression:

[Noluck]

I have to agree with OP.

 

 

In external / F2 view the transition between looking from the rear to front is too 'sharp'.

 

 

I flew MP first time since update and the F2 externals almost blew my ears out. I had to go and decrease the world sounds down at least 5% or it was overwhelming. Never had that problem before.

 

 

However I really appreciate ED fixing the DDI and MPCD readability. Now we have contrast control, day/night on MPCD and more. Not to mention the awesome updates to the TPOD and the Ground Radar. I care more about these issues than some sound upgrade that changes everything else.

 

 

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[CBStu]

Do you guys fly around in F2 view a lot?

[fagulha]

I love the new sounds, i think it´s really an improvement. Of course everyone can have their own liking like the OP, but for me i´m very pleased with the ED work on Hornet sound, altough it´s still WIP and can/should be improved. Hope can be implemented that owling when in close for carrier landing and you can hear the engines changing different power states.

 

Best regards,

F.

[Cgjunk2]

Do you guys fly around in F2 view a lot?

 

I do use F2. But I realize that this is a simulator, not a game, so I probably shouldn’t.

[Cgjunk2]

 

As per the rest of your post, ED can not base their sim on your feelings and things that seem to you. If you prefer the old sounds there might be a mod coming and otherwhise it is what we call 'tough shit'.

 

Speaking of F2 view, except when on the ground, sound for this is viewpoint is a complete fantasy. To expect perfect fidelity in sounds in this view while in flight is to demand an onslaught of wind noise with perhaps a indistinct engine sound in the background.

 

So, until ED banishes the F2 view on the grounds of realism, you are pretty much left trying to make a sound that “seems” to be believable, gives a bit of satisfaction to our pretend fighter pilot instincts, and doesnt sound like it’s repeating a loop every 8 seconds. Opinions on what sounds good will vary, I was just offering mine as a data point on how the sounds are being perceived by at least me.

 

If AB sounds arent really perceptibly different from MIL power, I am fine if the decision is made to leave that part alone. Honestly, the looping quality is what gets me the most.. Does anyone else notice that, or is it just me?

[btd]

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=245153

 

Idle RPM and a bit above.

 

I'm sorry, but I haven't seen this thread before. And unfortunately, it did not reach the list of tasks / bugs / features.

Many thanks for the detailed research. I'll try to do something about it.

[btd]

People sometimes compare the view of F2 (exactly F2) in the air with something .... I am always very interested how? :) Do you have the experience flying near FA18? or do you have the video from F2 view in the air in real life? Please please share it to me!

That is why I very much ask all comparisons to be made with real video recordings. I think you can do it only with F3 view from a certain distance. Therefore, sounds for air, their volume and cones/spheres of sound are adjusted exactly for F3 view. Not F2

 

In any case, your opinion has been heard. I will do my best to improve the external sound. And again, I will be very grateful in this thread if you concretize, together with the videos and comparisons, what exactly can be improved. Many thanks you all!

Edited August 30, 2020 by btd

[Caffeine_High]

People sometimes compare the view of F2 (exactly F2) in the air with something .... I am always very interested how? :) Do you have the experience flying near FA18? or do you have the video from F2 view in the air in real life? Please please share it to me!

That is why I very much ask all comparisons to be made with real video recordings. I think you can do it only with F3 view from a certain distance. Therefore, sounds for air, their volume and cones/spheres of sound are adjusted exactly for F3 view. Not F2

 

In any case, your opinion has been heard. I will do my best to improve the external sound. And again, I will be very grateful in this thread if you concretize, together with the videos and comparisons, what exactly can be improved. Many thanks you all!

 

 

The Blue Angels visit here every year. If you can, you should try to attend a show and hear them fly a 150ft above your head. It sounds amazing, but can't be matched with my headphones :megalol:

[btd]

You speak about F3 view in DCS :)

You can't fly near Blue Angels and rotate yourself around them :)

 

I've recorded F3-view flybys, as on Air Show with current sounds. I made it from scratch, so it's not great.

But please look at it. That is how new external sounds works.

Do you hear sharp transition from front to rear? or 8-sec bad quality loops?

Edited September 1, 2020 by btd

[btd]

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=245153

 

Idle RPM and a bit above.

 

Please check your thread

Edited September 1, 2020 by btd

[Caffeine_High]

People sometimes compare the view of F2 (exactly F2) in the air with something .... I am always very interested how?

 

Answer: You can get F2 audio from air shows.

[Tholozor]

Wouldn't that be considered F3?

[btd]

Answer: You can get F2 audio from air shows.

 

No :) You cannot fly at the speed of an airplane with your camera and rotate around the airplane after a few meters))

Although maybe some wingsuit-mans can ) But anyway, it should be too hard to hear or record something, but white noise.

 

But you can get F3-view. From a certain distance and with doppler and with very quickly changed angle of view at short distances.

[112th_Rossi]

Here are some great examples of legacy hornets in Guam

 

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You can't hear supersonic engine thrust noise even if you are at the rear of the aircraft and the compressor whine is always present during taxi.

[btd]

You can't hear supersonic engine thrust noise even if you are at the rear of the aircraft and the compressor whine is always present during taxi.

 

This is a feature of a particular microphone. It cuts off the low frequencies dynamically so that wind noise does not block the entire recording.

[btd]

So, considering your wishes, the sound has been updated a bit. Here's a short video of how it sounds now:

 

 

In the second half of the video for immortal supermen ;) - flying next to the plane in F2-view, switching on / off the afterburner.

Many thanks for your help. I hope you will like it. Please be patient, I can't say for sure how quickly this update will get to you.